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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16408290 times)

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13755 on: September 06, 2012, 03:40:20 PM »
Wouldn't there be capacitance between turns of perpendicular coils still ? The fact that perpendicular coils don't interact is the whole point of this kind of setup, pure capacitive induction ! If it can bite the finger, it will surely bite the coil on top of it too no matter how it is oriented. When perpendicular then no back EMF would affect the source. Would this effect be profound enough to be of any use is the question. Has anyone done any experiments using high frequency/high voltage with perpendicular coils ?
Yes, there would be, but charging this capacitance would happen at the expense of discharging the interwinding capacitance of the perpendicular coil. Capacitor to capacitor transfers ar 50% efficient at best.  See here.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13756 on: September 07, 2012, 01:17:08 AM »
I am fully aware of the possibility of fakery, which is one of the reasons the team went out with the sophisticated gear. Of course, I am also aware that our gear could have discovered his secret also, so him freaking out  is also plausible.
If it is faked my money would be on Tesla single wire transmission. This works at HV and possibly HF also. Also the resistance of the earth is negligible at high voltage. I have already tested this out and sent a "spark gap" through two Earth rods ten feet apart. It was reduced by over 50% compared with a normal spark gap, but it still worked. The power of the experiment was less than one watt. So I assume that a 100 watt experiment would meet with little or no resistance.
I have tried mains power through the earth. At 20 watts it blew my bulb. 60 watts worked after some dithering till the electricity found it's way back into the loop. A 2 KW kettle refused to work on full power, but did work. However this was a "single wire earth return" experiment, not the Tesla one wire system.
When I tried the mains experiment through two earth rods, it would not work, although the wire became very hot. Looking at the wattmeter, it drew approximately 1.5 KW and still would not light a bulb.
So my conclusions are that mains through the earth won't work. High voltage and High frequency in single wire mode might work.
But my bet is still that KP's system works. My only question is, "Does this energy come from the ambient background, or does it come from the grid?"
So  you might try replacing Tesla's single wire system with the earth and see if it works.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13757 on: September 07, 2012, 02:44:46 AM »
But my bet is still that KP's system works. My only question is, "Does this energy come from the ambient background, or does it come from the grid?"
So  you might try replacing Tesla's single wire system with the earth and see if it works.

Have you considered that TK may use another means of inducing current?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13758 on: September 07, 2012, 03:02:42 AM »
Of course, I am also aware that our gear could have discovered his secret also, so him freaking out  is also plausible.
Go ahead! Put his secret on the discovery channel. 8)

Coils care only about the current or flux, not voltage.  You can pick up voltage with a capacitor but not with a coil.
Also perpendicular coils don't interact with each other.
Interact is here the keyword. According to physical laws the device needs the following:

a) An electric element that can influence the current in the 50Hz circuit of the inverter and the lamps and
b) that can be influenced by high frequency and/or high voltage so the one can interact with the other.

50Hz means a coil with a lot of windings and an iron core. High frequency spark means a few windings and perhaps an air core. Any ideas how to build such a thing that brings both together are welcome.

Now is it my imagination or does the secondary side of TK's transformer look a bit bumpy compared to the primary side? The insulation foil looks almost like once removed an then put back in place. What's going on here? Could there be an additional coil hidden underneath?

Count of wires leading into the backside of the tin can should be: 2 × high voltage out, 220V in, 2 × transistor each 3 wires, 2 wires from transformer (plus and minus via rectifier and capacitor). This makes 3 thick wires and 8 thin wires. But it looks as if there are more than 8 thin wires. Maybe I'm mistaken.

Just looking carefully for the reason TK want's rather erase this video ... :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13759 on: September 07, 2012, 08:37:30 AM »

My only question is, "Does this energy come from the ambient background, or does it come from the grid?"


That's the 64M$ question  ;D

Any chance of presenting a new proposition to TK along the lines of the test & inspection schedule mentioned earlier? This is the only way to make any real progress.

Any closer to getting a copy of the high res video?

Hoppy

verpies

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« Reply #13760 on: September 07, 2012, 09:17:33 AM »
Any chance of presenting a new proposition to TK along the lines of the test & inspection schedule mentioned earlier? This is the only way to make any real progress.
Is there any standard manner TK or his "agents" can be contacted to arrange a demo?

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« Reply #13761 on: September 07, 2012, 09:33:44 AM »
That's the 64M$ question  ;D

Any chance of presenting a new proposition to TK along the lines of the test & inspection schedule mentioned earlier? This is the only way to make any real progress.

Any closer to getting a copy of the high res video?

Hoppy
In this case better donate money for starving childs in Africa instead of getting scammed again... ;)

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13762 on: September 07, 2012, 12:30:18 PM »
In this case better donate money for starving childs in Africa instead of getting scammed again... ;)
Unless the purpose of buying the demo is to bust the scam - not to discover what is inside the "black box".

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13763 on: September 07, 2012, 01:41:54 PM »
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not to discover what is inside the "black box".
;D
Maybe Tariel builds a version of this craft KESHE POWER CELL?
http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/applications/energy/power-cells/83-keshe-power-cells-en
or this:
http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/shop/product/view/2/3

It can be in the palm of your hand and provides a lot of energy and is easy to build ..

Leo48

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13764 on: September 07, 2012, 02:35:24 PM »
Any closer to getting a copy of the high res video?
And a high res copy of the 2004 video for me too. :D

It can be in the palm of your hand and provides a lot of energy and is easy to build ..
If it is easy to build then why secure it with a GPS-system?

And why then does it cost thousands of $$$ ???

Besides I have a bad feeling when a power system is at the mercy of a one man foundation. :(

And even more since all what we know so far this could be a scam.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13765 on: September 07, 2012, 03:05:32 PM »
Hello:
I have been following this forum for some time with great interest and respect for all your work.  I have looked at a lot of TK information and drawings on the internet, where I came across an interesting hand drawing that seems to have some similarities to the 2004 Kapanadze device. (Don't know who made it, (Can't read Russian)). I have never posted before, so I hope that the drawing I attached comes through.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13766 on: September 07, 2012, 04:53:12 PM »
Besides I have a bad feeling when a power system is at the mercy of a one man foundation. :(
And even more since all what we know so far this could be a scam.

Doesn't seem that you read much on the Keshe Foundation.
They are NOT a one man foundation.
The scientists are spread all over the world so no one can take them all out and suppress this technology.

If you spend the time reviewing all Keshe demos and forums and web pages then you'd realize it can't all be a fake.
Kapanadze has gotten all of you to believe everything is a fake.
I don't believe Kapanadze is a fake (yet) and I surely don't believe Keshe is fake.
But we are free to believe anything we want  ;D

DonL




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13767 on: September 07, 2012, 05:07:45 PM »
Who can explain why it works?
In the coil undamped pulses. You can load a small hang, resonance is not violated. Operates without a generator, it is necessary only to start.


Кто может объяснить почему так работает?
В катушке незатухающие импульсы. Можно нагрузку небольшую вешать, резонанс не нарушается. Работает без генератора, он нужен только для старта.

Старое видео, оказалось схема проще.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igEiUmnZ2vw

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13768 on: September 07, 2012, 06:32:31 PM »
;D
Maybe Tariel builds a version of this craft KESHE POWER CELL?
http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/applications/energy/power-cells/83-keshe-power-cells-en
or this:
http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/shop/product/view/2/3

It can be in the palm of your hand and provides a lot of energy and is easy to build ..

Leo48

Yep, and it will beam you into any point in the universe to boot  ;)

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13769 on: September 07, 2012, 07:44:56 PM »
Who says that in a closed system there is no excess of One unit?   :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhd43iLv8Zs