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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16627380 times)

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13725 on: September 05, 2012, 12:51:29 PM »
@Hoppy, why think the braid is trickery when the green box vid did not use any braid it used a really heavy earth wire wound round a water pipe, and it could be clearly seen only one connection 100%. I have watched it many times and no way was there any other feed to device. Most interesting was the inverter was used in between looping, and then battery removed. I assume doubters think in other demos this start battery is hidden? In fact I think TK just got cleverer and now uses small 9volt for starting by improving circuit.And in doing so could say look no batteries.
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The green box vid could have been faked in a different way, so simply saying that the aq2 vid braid has to be a single conductor just because the green box earth wire was a single conductor does not follow in my book. We will all continue to go round in circles arguing fake v genuine until and if an in depth analysis can be carried out on a working TK device, which seems to be very unlikely. I'm not saying that the braid is trickery, just that its quite possible that it concealed energy carrying conductor(s).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13726 on: September 05, 2012, 01:37:00 PM »
It really is necessary to completely eliminate any trickery.  This can only be done with a another demo where the emphasis is on investigating everything outside the box thoroughly.
Yes, why don't we all pitch in and eliminate it once and for all.

Let him build an opaque contraption/ustroistvo with DC output for us, but this time around we will not investigate the inside of this box.

It costs only $500 to travel to Tibilisi from eastern Europe.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13727 on: September 05, 2012, 01:48:36 PM »
Near field induction is sensitive to the orientation of the coil - the coil in the demo is not.
It is much more likely that there is a battery in the motor or in the glue holding the magnet, than a power transfer by near field induction.

You're right! This seems more plausible.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13728 on: September 05, 2012, 02:52:54 PM »
Yes, why don't we all pitch in and eliminate it once and for all.

Let him build an opaque contraption/ustroistvo with DC output for us, but this time around we will not investigate the inside of this box.

It costs only $500 to travel to Tibilisi from eastern Europe.

The first step would be spell out exactly what the investigating team wish to do using a written test schedule, with the condition that no money changes hand (other than perhaps a small deposit) until the investigation is complete and carried out in accordance with the schedule. Chances are that this proposal would turned down flat but no harm in testing the waters.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13729 on: September 05, 2012, 03:25:04 PM »
No, a simple insulation (even enamel) can prevent a shock.
Also, 1-sided touch to the grounded side of a 3kV circuit will not produce any sensation either.

@verpies
The question is not if this was a real ground with 3kv+ on the other side, the question is if the ground lead carried the HV+. If it did carry the HV+ then his fingers should have received a good shock. But he lifted it and held there as if nothing occurred.

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Question for the top EEers on the forum.

In the Green Box and 2004 videos, we see the black heat sinks with just two wires going to each. ONLY TWO, not three.

If those heat sinks held Zenor diodes and each diode was used in a way to pulse the primary of a flyback, hence you would have two flybacks, one per zenor diode, and you also had only one capacitor as the accumulating source from which the Zenors would pulse, how would you go about choosing the zenor diode and making the circuit diagram? I know there are zenors that have the mosfet topology.

Is that possible?

Then there is another funny thing going on.

In the 2004 video, I was looking for any wire or anything weird at the center wind area of the 6 turn fat copper coil. Like a center tap. This because according to my theory, it would call for such a connection.

Anyways, at 13:21 when TKs helper handled the step down transformer thus moving it, you can see the 6 turn coil moved as he first lifted the transformer. The transformer has a bolted diode plate and that plate was put back to contact the center point of the 6 turn. He shorted the 6 turn center point with the diode plate. Coincidence?

Also on the far end of the 6 turns (actually 5 1/2 turns) you see a HV type wire coming from the tin can to feed that side of the 6 turn. You also see another wire coming from the tin can to feed the left side of the spark. Now if those two wire were HV+ coming from two small flybacks, then you would need a negative at the center tap area of the 6 turn. hehehe

This also equals the Wesley Georgia video three connections to the 6 turn and also the 2012 video Coily Coils getting HV+ from two side so there must be a center tap there as well as I had mentioned going to the center coil and then we see it go to ground.

Also, about the Wesley Georgia video off CDI, the PINK and WHITE wires of the battery start go to the CDI. hehe Does anyone have a real data sheet with color id on the CDI of Wesleys video. Urgent. 

wattsup

PS: More pieces are coming together faster and faster and the devices are starting to coalesce with their "mutualities".

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13730 on: September 05, 2012, 03:59:05 PM »
@verpies
The question is not if this was a real ground with 3kv+ on the other side, the question is if the ground lead carried the HV+. If it did carry the HV+ then his fingers should have received a good shock. But he lifted it and held there as if nothing occurred.


Just to chip in on this one, it would pretty stupid to put 3KV down the braid, given that the braid is lying all over the floor and highly unlikely given that there are photos of hands all over it! As to whether there is an inner conductor carrying HV or grid mains, then I see this as a valid question.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13731 on: September 05, 2012, 04:57:49 PM »
@Wattsup@Hoppy, If braid is 3KV + only get shock if earth disconnects at the earth connection. When I was younger messing about in my shed I wired up a one bar 240volt electric fire the type with open tungsten windings, I would put a metal bar to negative and drag bar along towards positive and see at what point I would get a shock usually started to tingle about half way.
Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13732 on: September 05, 2012, 06:23:20 PM »
@verpies
The question is not if this was a real ground with 3kv+ on the other side, the question is if the ground lead carried the HV+. If it did carry the HV+ then his fingers should have received a good shock. But he lifted it and held there as if nothing occurred.
I disagree.
Polarity has no influence on the safety of LF galvanically isolated circuits.
Touching one side of such circuit does not complete it hence no current flow and no sensation is elicited in the human skin.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13733 on: September 05, 2012, 06:25:23 PM »
@Wattsup@Hoppy, If braid is 3KV + only get shock if earth disconnects at the earth connection. When I was younger messing about in my shed I wired up a one bar 240volt electric fire the type with open tungsten windings, I would put a metal bar to negative and drag bar along towards positive and see at what point I would get a shock usually started to tingle about half way.
Regards
Keith

OK, if the braid is carrying 3KV then where is the earth wire in TK's aqua2 device?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13734 on: September 05, 2012, 06:42:19 PM »
The first step would be spell out exactly what the investigating team wish to do using a written test schedule, with the condition that no money changes hand (other than perhaps a small deposit) until the investigation is complete and carried out in accordance with the schedule. Chances are that this proposal would turned down flat but no harm in testing the waters.
I would envision sth simple like this:
Dear Tariel:
1) Build the smallest and lightest opaque "black box" with 230VDC output and as high current as you can.
2) Allow us to touch and measure everything except the internals of the box. That is:
    a) the outside size of the box
    b) the weight of the box
    c) the space around the box including any wires protruding out of the box
    d) our own resistive load connected to the box (supplied with Direct Current (DC), by the box)

The simpler - the better.  Help me refine it if you feel like it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13735 on: September 05, 2012, 07:09:03 PM »
I would envision sth simple like this:
Dear Tariel:
1) Build the smallest and lightest opaque "black box" with 230VDC output and as high current as you can.
2) Allow us to touch and measure everything except the internals of the box. That is:
    a) the outside size of the box
    b) the weight of the box
    c) the space around the box including any wires protruding out of the box
    d) our own resistive load connected to the box (supplied with Direct Current (DC), by the box)

The simpler - the better.  Help me refine it if you feel like it.

I would also include the disconnection and inspection of any 'earth' lead connection. Otherwise, I think you have it well covered.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13736 on: September 05, 2012, 07:11:17 PM »
OK, if the braid is carrying 3KV then where is the earth wire in TK's aqua2 device?
Earth wire or return wire?
Like this:

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13737 on: September 05, 2012, 07:20:16 PM »
Dear Tariel:
1) Build the smallest and lightest opaque "black box" with 230VDC output and as high current as you can.
2) Allow us to touch and measure everything except the internals of the box. That is:
    a) the outside size of the box
    b) the weight of the box
    c) the space around the box including any wires protruding out of the box
    d) our own resistive load connected to the box (supplied with Direct Current (DC), by the box)

Dear Tariel:
1) Provide us with all the necessary parts needed to build the device (assembly kit)
2) Then let us figure out how to connect these parts the right way to make it work

 ;D ::) 8)

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13738 on: September 05, 2012, 07:50:45 PM »
Earth wire or return wire?
Like this:

Yes, that's the most likely method IMO.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13739 on: September 05, 2012, 10:49:11 PM »
"Dear Tariel:
1) Provide us with all the necessary parts needed to build the device (assembly kit)
2) Then let us figure out how to connect these parts the right way to make it work"

Would love to hear his reply! :D ;)