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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16500501 times)

27Bubba

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13515 on: August 28, 2012, 02:02:27 AM »
"Anyways, I wanted to know the length required so I made an excel sheet starting with a 1 1/4" dia. open center and considering the wire would be about 1/4" in diameter, the final result, (shown below) is 122 feet. Then add the extra lengths of about 8 feet maximum and you get a length of 130 feet required to make the TKc."

@wattsup

I appreciate the chart. Great idea.

So based on .25 dia wire *64 turns=16 inches of wounded width . That seems allot longer than TK "blue"coil ;) :)
 Plus add another 2 inch for the "coily" coil that's 18" = 0.457 2 meter for our metric friends.. :D

Or I'm I wrong :'(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13516 on: August 28, 2012, 03:03:42 AM »
I would like to draw attention to capacitor specifications, you've probably seen it in the catalogs of manufacturers of a capacitors indicated the capacitor discharge current depending on the frequency and as the higher the frequency the greater is the discharge current of the capacitor!

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« Reply #13517 on: August 28, 2012, 03:37:48 AM »
I think - you are describing "asynchronous resonance" is a key to "over unity",
that sees the circuit as a resonant valve and converter not a generator.
The energy can be pulled through the circuit to load only when, it is blind to back emf, and sets up pulsed resonance with the background environmental source, which in this case is via the earth-braided rad. The only way I imagine to do this is with a three plate or coil cap combination. One plate maintains or matches resonance, the other two are loading and discharging like a pump. Maybe otherways? Ideas are fast converging here
To tell the truth, I have never heard of "asynchronous resonance." I have no idea what it means. Is it two tuned circuits that don't operate on the same frequency?

Here is a factoid that may apply to "asynchronous resonance", what ever it is.
If you take two identical tuned circuits, each one, taken separately, will resonate at the same frequency. Once you magnetically couple them together  neither of them will oscillate at the frequency that they are built to operate at. Instead, one will operate at a slightly higher frequency and the other at a slightly lower frequency. The degree of movement from the designed resonant frequency is said to depend on the degree of coupling of the two circuits.

Cool huh?

For some reason I had thought that this would happen with any kind of coupling but I just looked it up, to confirm what I was saying was true, and it is only with magnetic coupling.

Here is the quote; RCA RADIOTRON DESIGNER'S HANDBOOK, Fourth Edition, 1953 Chapter 9, Section 8, page 418
"(i) Mutual inductive coupling
As already emphasized, when the mutual inductive coupling between two tuned circuits is increased above a critical value, kt, two peaks appear in the response curve, symmetrically situated with regard to the resonant frequency f0. No other types of coupling possess this useful property."

I happen to have the printed book but you can get a scaned PDF from this link:
http://www.nj7p.info/Common/Manuals/Tube_Manuals.php

This brings something else to mind. I have been thinking about Tesla's obscure "Shuttle theory", that I think my grandfather had some how been hinting at by the things he gave me when he was alive, several books on Tesla and a book about the space shuttle. My grandfather was a professor and no dummy. He had intimated that free energy does exist but we would only get it if society was ready else we would end up destroying ourselves and or the planet.

I keep wondering about the picture below. Why is Tesla looking so intently at the coils in his hand? Note that they are at right angles to each other and therefore not magnetically coupled. Does this have to do with his "Shuttle theory"? If the coils are not magnetically coupled then they could be electrically coupled. This could be a indicating a later design than his Magnifying Transmitter, which was both magnetically coupled and electrically coupled. Note the big ash tray looking thing behind him. I think that might be his "Death ray".

Sorry, this has little to do with the topic of this thread. Just a nostalgic trip down memory lane for me.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13518 on: August 28, 2012, 03:45:12 AM »
@27Bubba

Yes you are right, but the 1/4" was only to have a base. If the wire is thinner, then you need less then 130 feet. I just wanted to know around what length in case I saw a good deal for 120' of thinner, then I know it will do the job. Just as a guide. The other table also says to me that this wire will handle the load. Crazy as it sounds, these thin wires can rock.

@all

Some logic on the Coily Coil (CoCo) connection points to the transformer coils. The wires from the transformer are thin and will move around easily. The wires from the CoCo are rigid and will not move around easily making the connection (solder) point very stable. So then why go to the trouble of tapping them up? Is it possible they put something inside those connections. If they were tapped up for electric shock prevention, then why did they not tape up the connections on the transformers. They are just as shock prone.

I could swear I see something close up but cannot be certain enough without more opinions. More eyes.

wattsup


27Bubba

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13519 on: August 28, 2012, 03:54:56 AM »
@wattsup
So as I understand it... TK stripped the braided wire and the sheathing and wound the coil using inner insulator w center conductor? If that the case the inner dielectric insulator measure less than 3/16"..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13520 on: August 28, 2012, 03:55:35 AM »
No problem! ;D
I'm with you. A very simple device is that what we are looking for!

Since all my experiments (and that of others) with spark gaps have failed so far (to produce free energy), I'm convinced that the TK principle has something to do with Back EMF. Reverse the Back EMF by some appropriate means, thus instead of having the Back EMF working against you, let it work with you ...


I'm not sure you guys are thinking of back EMF in the right way. You do know that back EMF flows in the same direction as the original current? It doesn't flow backward to the voltage you apply to a coil. It flows in the same direction.

For example, you take a battery and connect it to a coil. It takes a while for the current to start flowing. Now you disconnect the battery the current stops flowing but before it stops completely you get a back EMF that flows in the same direction as the current that the battery was producing.

The reason it's called a back EMF is because it's at the end of the flow of current you applied. Kind of like what they call a "Back porch" in a video signal is at the end of a scan line.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13521 on: August 28, 2012, 04:02:04 AM »
Zeitmaschine and others re Lenz and back emf. THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT JACK NOSKILLS IS UP TO.
That's why I say he is close.
Anyway some important information next:

a.king21

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« Reply #13522 on: August 28, 2012, 04:24:47 AM »
In 1996 Kapanadze powered his first free energy device. It was ...... 1 KWATT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It ran for three months.
I have been told inside information that sometimes the Kapanadze device takes a whole day or more to start.
In the aquarium 2 video Kapanadze kept the team waiting for 5 days, and then postponed the actual day till the afternoon because of storms.
Ask yourself the question - How many of us free energy researchers would dare experiment with a 1 K watt device as our first foray into FE? And use Mains electricity??  Think about it deeply.
I thank Gidfactor for providing the missing link. We've got him now.
Here's what I think happened.
In 1996 Georgia was coming out of a serious civil war. People were desperate. One thing that was going around was how to steal electricity from the grid.
Here's how they did it.  They  disconnected the neutral wire from their appliance. Then they put an earth rod in the ground and connected their devices to the earth rod. So the live was from the electricity main, and the earth rod wire became the neutral.
That way the meter did not register any power. They had "free" electricity.
I think Kapandaze took this a stage further and used an inverter to produce his electricity.
2 He needed more power so he used a flyback or a CDI unit so that he could use the flyback or CDI  unit as a  LIGHTWEIGHT transformer and use  light-weight wires.
3 He looped the device. Output into input.
4 He put a spark gap across the load as an infinity loop limiter.
I've been experimenting with the Gidfactor phenomenon.
Here's what I've found.
Scalar waves appear out of nowhere. But you have to tease them out.
Sometimes it works. At other times, the same circuit refuses to work.
Now look at my version of his patent again, with this new knowledge.
He puts the load from the LIVE wire straight into the GROUND! lol
I'm convinced we've got him at last!
 
 
« Last Edit: August 28, 2012, 06:43:17 AM by a.king21 »

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« Reply #13523 on: August 28, 2012, 04:41:43 AM »
I looked it up. There is a whole lot of nonsense given when I Googled it. I'm not talking about a "counter EMF" or "an induced back EMF" I'm talking about a Back EMF from a coil.

A magnetic field acts much like mass does. It opposes change. It doesn't like to be created, in fact it produces that "counter EMF" in the things around it that oppose it's creation. Once it's created it doesn't like to stop. If the current has been flowing for a while the "counter EMF" is no longer present in the things around it because it has died down and that "counter EMF" only appears when the magnetic field changes. If you try to stop your current flow, the magnetic field that it is creating will start to change and produce another "counter EMF" in the things around it that will oppose it's change, i.e. will try to keep the current flowing. That trying to keep the current flowing is what I have been taught is called "back EMF".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmMFog10D0
MIT Physics Demo -- Back "emf" in a Large Solenoid
The description states;
"A large solenoid is connected to DC power through a knife switch.  When the switch is closed, the current builds up to approximately 30 amps. When the switch is opened, the solenoid attempts to keep the current flowing, creating a huge emf which ionizes the air in a huge spark."

Note "keep the current flowing" and "huge emf". That is MIT!

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« Reply #13524 on: August 28, 2012, 04:49:12 AM »
Zeitmaschine and others re Lenz and back emf. THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT JACK NOSKILLS IS UP TO.
That's why I say he is close.

I am very sorry, but as a physicist I have to be blunt.
Lenz law has never been beaten in our part of the Universe.
Back EMF has never produced any extra energy.
However, this does not mean that back EMF cannot be used to invoke phenomena that convert energy from one form to the other. Energy must always come from somewhere. The fact that you do not see the source of energy, only means that the source is well hidden.

This is just a friendly reminder. :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13525 on: August 28, 2012, 05:20:35 AM »
I'm not sure you guys are thinking of back EMF in the right way. You do know that back EMF flows in the same direction as the original current? It doesn't flow backward to the voltage you apply to a coil. It flows in the same direction.

For example, you take a battery and connect it to a coil. It takes a while for the current to start flowing. Now you disconnect the battery the current stops flowing but before it stops completely you get a back EMF that flows in the same direction as the current that the battery was producing.

The reason it's called a back EMF is because it's at the end of the flow of current you applied. Kind of like what they call a "Back porch" in a video signal is at the end of a scan line.
     If your pulse width is such that just at the moment when current is going to flow through the circuit you disconnect the coil of high impedance there is no forward current drawn. what happens instead is a sudden collapse of the magnetic field (which was causing the impedance of the coil)  and "flyback voltage" is produced which is thousands of times higher than the input voltage. In a television set this collapse occurs during that portion of the cycle when the deflection plates are making the electron gun flyback and down to the next video line. The high voltage pulse is rectified and maintains the charge on the capacitor formed between the anode and the cathode of the picture tube.   This is the principal behind the ignition transformers Tesla designed for Henry Ford to replace the magneto.   It is like taking a piece of wire and moving it through a permanent magnet field at near the speed of light.  Induced voltage is directly proportional to the rate of change of the magnetic field surrounding a conductor.  It matters little if the conductor is attached to a load or a capacitor. 

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13526 on: August 28, 2012, 06:38:36 AM »
I am very sorry, but as a physicist I have to be blunt.
Lenz law has never been beaten in our part of the Universe.
Back EMF has never produced any extra energy.
However, this does not mean that back EMF cannot be used to invoke phenomena that convert energy from one form to the other. Energy must always come from somewhere. The fact that you do not see the source of energy, only means that the source is well hidden.

This is just a friendly reminder. :)
Jack noskills did not wire up his transformer in the normal way. He wired it at right angles to the normal convention. If you turn the Kapandze schematic 90 degrees , the two central coils look like noskill's circuit.
So the thing I'm writing about is not in the books.
We actually need new terminology for the stuff we're doing. The words I am using are the best we can do
to give people an idea of what is going on. They are not meant to be taken literally and pedantically.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13527 on: August 28, 2012, 07:17:13 AM »
Just for Wattsup and Hoppy.

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« Reply #13528 on: August 28, 2012, 07:59:34 AM »
@27Bubba

No not like that.
Like below.

wattsup



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13529 on: August 28, 2012, 08:42:34 AM »
Just for Wattsup and Hoppy.

Thanks, that clears it up.