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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16491835 times)

semenihin-77

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13245 on: August 19, 2012, 08:45:28 AM »
LOL  ;D




Everything else is decoration........



Correspondent: Mr. Tariel, and that will turn off if the ground?
Kapanadze: We burned the electronic circuit breaker ...


http://youtu.be/0DY4QHg6_34
« Last Edit: August 19, 2012, 10:00:53 AM by semenihin-77 »
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Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13246 on: August 19, 2012, 10:59:22 AM »
Quote from: semenihin-77 on August 19, 2012, 08:45:28 AM
LOL  ;D




Everything else is decoration........



Correspondent: Mr. Tariel, and that will turn off if the ground?
Kapanadze: We burned the electronic circuit breaker ...


http://youtu.be/0DY4QHg6_34

What does the sine wave on top left of your diagram signify please?

Hoppy
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a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13247 on: August 19, 2012, 12:23:53 PM »
Quote from: wattsup on August 19, 2012, 12:35:57 AM
@cheappower2012

The only relationship I can see between SM and TK is they used the same cameraman for TKs last video. Really, you cannot compare them. SM was a loner. TK has his clan. SM will die with his secrets. TK will pass them on to his clan. SM loved boys. TK, hope not. lol

Listen, there are many views but regardless, all has to be tried and guys will try them all. If you remove the TK coil and the spark gap, you are left with nothing so we may as well pack up the lab and move to Timbuckto (because Beverly Hills is taken). lol

My only last question on that last video is this.

The TK coil is blue wire. We see a blue wire soldered to the triple transformer. Is that wire going to the TK coil? And if yes, it seems to be a single strand and not a multi-strand. If that is the case then this is definitely a game changer if the TK coil is wound with a single stand, probably high voltage wire. I already have my 14 awg multi-strand but will wait to see if anyone has anything or if there is another photo available that can clarify this very important question.

wattsup
I really object to your brazen unprovable lying accusation about the cameramen. The TK vid was taken on an iphone and the copy downgraded (the original was 350 meg) and emailed to me. We have absolutely no connection with any one else's video. Stop talking complete bollocks. It makes me doubt every post you have ever made.
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a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13248 on: August 19, 2012, 12:29:31 PM »
Quote from: Hoppy on August 18, 2012, 09:26:07 PM
Can we be absolutely sure that it did run for 4.5hrs? Who witnessed this - the investors, the testers (who clearly did not test it thoroughly) or are we accepting TK's word for it?

Hoppy
100% Read all my posts for the last 2 to 3 weeks to get the full story. The only doubt is wether it was 4 hours 20 minutes or 4 hours 40 minutes, because it was not timed by a stop watch, and I got the info by talking to two eyewitnesses personally. I have also quizzed them for hours trying to glean as much info as I can.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13249 on: August 19, 2012, 12:30:14 PM »
Quote from: Hoppy on August 19, 2012, 10:59:22 AM
What does the sine wave on top left of your diagram signify please?
If the sine wave is a 50Hz wave then the use of an iron core is recommended in the coil next to it.

Quote from: jbignes5 on August 19, 2012, 04:45:42 AM
Do you see the coil with wooden dowels?? Thats a plain old Tesla coil. The one closest to the camera? Oh and the caps are right between the metal box and the left most coil. This is actually just like Tesla's experiment with all the coils within his Colorado experiment.
A Tesla coil what for? To mislead people to think this free energy generator has anything to do with a classic Tesla (spark) setup? And what's the black huge cylinder in the background for? Is this also a coil or is this - at least this - decoration only?

BTW: The patent WO 2008/103130 states »There is not encountered any application in prior art related with the invention improved with this invention.« Therefore this cannot be a Tesla related invention as TK had said in the green box video. Except Tesla had intentionally not patented his invention.

Quote from: Free.Energy on August 19, 2012, 04:18:34 AM
To be honest, is really doesn't matter how TK is actually configuring his system.  The principles are the same.  You send a pulse to a coil with a breaking configuration.  The energy is manifest at right angles to the coil.  You use to this by magnetic induction or electrostatic induction.

The transformer is irrelevant.
But isn't a transformer a coil also?

Quote from: wattsup on August 19, 2012, 12:35:57 AM
If you remove the TK coil and the spark gap, you are left with nothing so we may as well pack up the lab and move to Timbuckto (because Beverly Hills is taken). lol
Free energy from nothing, isn't this exactly that what we are all looking for? ::)

Impossible or not impossible? This is here the question. If the spark is not needed, then also the coil is not needed, then also the high voltage is not needed. Neither high voltage nor a spark gap is mentioned in one of the two TK patents. Hence what's left? Maybe an energy transformer?

Create continuous heavy Back EMF by means of high frequency in the iron core of an ordinary transformer and mix it with the 50Hz frequency created by an 220V inverter. The outcome could be free energy - or a burned-out inverter.

If someone could try this and tell us the results please. :)
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forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13250 on: August 19, 2012, 01:34:21 PM »
Quote from: Zeitmaschine on August 19, 2012, 12:30:14 PM
If the sine wave is a 50Hz wave then the use of an iron core is recommended in the coil next to it.
A Tesla coil what for? To mislead people to think this free energy generator has anything to do with a classic Tesla (spark) setup? And what's the black huge cylinder in the background for? Is this also a coil or is this - at least this - decoration only?

BTW: The patent WO 2008/103130 states »There is not encountered any application in prior art related with the invention improved with this invention.« Therefore this cannot be a Tesla related invention as TK had said in the green box video. Except Tesla had intentionally not patented his invention.
But isn't a transformer a coil also?
Free energy from nothing, isn't this exactly that what we are all looking for? ::)

Impossible or not impossible? This is here the question. If the spark is not needed, then also the coil is not needed, then also the high voltage is not needed. Neither high voltage nor a spark gap is mentioned in one of the two TK patents. Hence what's left? Maybe an energy transformer?

Create continuous heavy Back EMF by means of high frequency in the iron core of an ordinary transformer and mix it with the 50Hz frequency created by an 220V inverter. The outcome could be free energy - or a burned-out inverter.

If someone could try this and tell us the results please. :)


Tesla not patented his device. He give info to some trusted people and some clever young persons he knew.
That's why some persons suddenly appear with some extraordinary knowledge like Don Smith.
Now look to this posted Kapanadze patent schematic and to the basic Don Smith famous tabletop circuit and compare looking from the output stage. Strangely I see no difference. >:(
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cheappower2012

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13251 on: August 19, 2012, 01:49:37 PM »
@a.king21 in the pictures it looks like theres other wires connected to the
blue wires  at the top,it looks like its for feedback to self power or a portal for another source of power,point of fraud.
Do you have other close ups of the top from few different angles,the problem is in some pictures
that feature looks missing.I don't believe for a second thats its fake just checking.
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Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13252 on: August 19, 2012, 02:25:08 PM »
Quote from: a.king21 on August 19, 2012, 12:29:31 PM
100% Read all my posts for the last 2 to 3 weeks to get the full story. The only doubt is wether it was 4 hours 20 minutes or 4 hours 40 minutes, because it was not timed by a stop watch, and I got the info by talking to two eyewitnesses personally. I have also quizzed them for hours trying to glean as much info as I can.

Thanks for the confirmation. I take it that these eyewitnesses were not part of TK's team or known to him?
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Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13253 on: August 19, 2012, 02:30:36 PM »
Quote from: a.king21 on August 19, 2012, 12:23:53 PM
I really object to your brazen unprovable lying accusation about the cameramen. The TK vid was taken on an iphone and the copy downgraded (the original was 350 meg) and emailed to me. We have absolutely no connection with any one else's video. Stop talking complete bollocks. It makes me doubt every post you have ever made.

Could the original 350 meg vid be made available to us for study?

Hoppy
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13254 on: August 19, 2012, 02:57:13 PM »
Quote from: Zeitmaschine on August 19, 2012, 12:30:14 PM
If the sine wave is a 50Hz wave then the use of an iron core is recommended in the coil next to it.
A Tesla coil what for? To mislead people to think this free energy generator has anything to do with a classic Tesla (spark) setup? And what's the black huge cylinder in the background for? Is this also a coil or is this - at least this - decoration only?

BTW: The patent WO 2008/103130 states »There is not encountered any application in prior art related with the invention improved with this invention.« Therefore this cannot be a Tesla related invention as TK had said in the green box video. Except Tesla had intentionally not patented his invention.
But isn't a transformer a coil also?
Free energy from nothing, isn't this exactly that what we are all looking for? ::)

Impossible or not impossible? This is here the question. If the spark is not needed, then also the coil is not needed, then also the high voltage is not needed. Neither high voltage nor a spark gap is mentioned in one of the two TK patents. Hence what's left? Maybe an energy transformer?

Create continuous heavy Back EMF by means of high frequency in the iron core of an ordinary transformer and mix it with the 50Hz frequency created by an 220V inverter. The outcome could be free energy - or a burned-out inverter.

If someone could try this and tell us the results please. :)
 
Why have an inverter for supplying the load, so you have 2 inverters ?  my thought was like a 50 Hz carrier with HF spikes on it, and the HF spikes when they go from high to low voltage, in a minimum duty cycle like 10% it is were maybe the magic happens with the coil capacitor, and after that you get rid of the HF.
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Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13255 on: August 19, 2012, 03:15:23 PM »
Quote from: forest on August 19, 2012, 01:34:21 PM
some extraordinary knowledge like Don Smith
I have never seen any demo of a working Don Smith device in self-sustaining mode.

Hence it surely can't be that this Don Smith is an agent with the CIA instructed to make people think a free energy device is on its way to the market already, so it is not worth the effort to construct one themselves?

::) 8)
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13256 on: August 19, 2012, 03:38:43 PM »
Quote from: v8karlo on August 16, 2012, 10:59:01 PM
Sometimes for A reading attach small car lamp 12V, 1A and measure in series,
just to have any load and at 1200V setup I measured 550-600mA, but often I just
do it without load and than is 900-1100mA (1.1A).

Quote from: v8karlo on August 16, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
My last setup can gain 980 mA /1200V from 250mA / 12 V input from PC power supply with
help of backfeed.
Does anyone here see a potential problem with this claim  :o

If so, shouldn't this be the focus before anything else?  ???
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13257 on: August 19, 2012, 03:51:15 PM »
Quote from: poynt99 on August 19, 2012, 03:38:43 PM
Does anyone here see a potential problem with this claim  :o

If so, shouldn't this be the focus before anything else?  ???

There are clearly some people posting in this thread that do not have even a basic grasp of electrical principles and yet are trying to unravel the mystery of the TK device by experimenting using circuitry and test equipment that work on these very same principles! :(
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13258 on: August 19, 2012, 03:56:07 PM »
Quote from: a.king21 on August 19, 2012, 12:23:53 PM
I really object to your brazen unprovable lying accusation about the cameramen. The TK vid was taken on an iphone and the copy downgraded (the original was 350 meg) and emailed to me. We have absolutely no connection with any one else's video. Stop talking complete bollocks. It makes me doubt every post you have ever made.

@a.king21

That was just a joke for guys in the know. SM had a habit of making these killer bad quality videos just like the last TK video. I never lie, but I can joke around. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

@ALL

So this TK coil is not wound with 14 awg mutil-strand copper wire.
See image below shows a close-up of that connection to the transformer and compare it too an image I took of my 14 awg. I would say the blue wire is a HV type wire of 18 awg at best but able to handle high voltage at a good amperage.

The next image is a remake of the full diagram posted by @Bernhard, that I modified. Some said the TK coil was not used but this diagram will show that it is used as shown in series to the load.

Yes at the two layer end the two wires that go to the load seem to have a wire traveling through the TK coil but they do not. They just shoved a small length of the load wire inside the tube opening to try and confuse the viewer and to not flagrantly show the wire from the transformer is going directly to one side of the load.

The impact for builders of TK coil using standard multi-stranded copper wire compared to using a one strand HV wire is not known. Of course with HV using a multi-strand will cause many inter wire arcing potential that seems to not be desired by TK, so I will find the right wire to make the TK coil.

wattsup
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13259 on: August 19, 2012, 04:12:46 PM »
Quote from: v8karlo on August 16, 2012, 10:59:01 PM
Sometimes for A reading attach small car lamp 12V, 1A and measure in series,
just to have any load and at 1200V setup I measured 550-600mA, but often I just
do it without load and than is 900-1100mA (1.1A).

Quote from: v8karlo on August 16, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
My last setup can gain 980 mA /1200V from 250mA / 12 V input from PC power supply with
help of backfeed.

Provided the measurements are performed a certain way, anyone can produce similar test results using a Joule Thief or blocking oscillator circuit.
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