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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406279 times)

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13185 on: August 17, 2012, 09:00:39 PM »
His device has pulsed direct current output. In that video he attached car battery directly to
output of his device.
What video could this be? Can't remember seeing any car battery connected directly to the output of the TK device.

Bulbs do not need 220V/50Hz to light up, as long as they get the power they need. The output of the tin can is pulsed and not necessarily 50 Hz.
Then if 220V/50Hz is not needed, what is the blue box inverter for? If the output is pulsed TK could run his device directly with the car battery.

??? ???

27Bubba

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13186 on: August 17, 2012, 09:17:44 PM »
@V8Karlo

"Wires are litz from ordinary 3PL house cable, its cheap and you can buy them for nothing."

Do you mean litz wire as this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litz_wire

Or common multi strand wire? Thanks.

leo48

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13187 on: August 17, 2012, 09:25:15 PM »
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What video could this be? Can't remember seeing any car battery connected directly to the output of the TK device.

Here:

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13188 on: August 17, 2012, 09:41:44 PM »
Then if 220V/50Hz is not needed, what is the blue box inverter for? If the output is pulsed TK could run his device directly with the car battery.

 ??? ???

Because TK constructed the device such as to be able to power it either directly from the mains or from the battery through an inverter, or in a loop; from the rectified output of the device through an inverter.

Free.Energy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13189 on: August 17, 2012, 09:43:04 PM »
V8karlo

try to charge capacitor with one side to ground and other to metal plate near coil setup

If is back and forth use bridge rectifier between plate and capacitor

v8karlo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13190 on: August 17, 2012, 09:46:59 PM »
Because TK constructed the device such as to be able to power it either directly from the mains or from the battery through an inverter, or in a loop; from the rectified output of the device through an inverter.

He needs alternating current (AC) for HV transformer.
You cannot run transformer with Direct Current (DC),
and he is using it as gate signal for his output transistor,
so he dont need signal gen.

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13191 on: August 17, 2012, 10:00:39 PM »
Here:

Leo48
This is input (battery powers blue inverter), not output.

Because TK constructed the device such as to be able to power it either directly from the mains or from the battery through an inverter, or in a loop; from the rectified output of the device through an inverter.
Then why is it that the 220V/50Hz cable from the inverter goes into the tin can? What does the tin can need 220V/50Hz for, if not to power the lamps with 220V/50Hz??

He needs alternating current (AC) for HV transformer.
You cannot run transformer with Direct Current (DC),
and he is using it as gate signal for his output transistor,
so he dont need signal gen.
Why not using the 12V AC output of the transformer (behind the coil) for a gate signal? Wouldn't that be saver? Why 220V? And what HV transformer? A TV flyback needs only around 12V to create high voltage output.

I gradually get the feeling that some people are recently interested in derailing this thread ...  :(

Why could this be? :D

cheappower2012

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13192 on: August 17, 2012, 11:54:36 PM »
Zeitmachine said:


 I gradually get the feeling that some people are recently interested in derailing this thread ...   :o

                Why could this be?  ::)






Bingo @Zeitmachine,by there lies you will know them.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13193 on: August 18, 2012, 12:05:35 AM »
Can we keep this discussion to science please. It is the only way. Healthy debate and good scientific argument is as it should be.
If someone has an opposing view - that is fine if there are good scientific reasons. We all make mistakes, let's not beat ourselves up about them.
I've been mugged by TK more than most. Let's take his secret toy away from him.
If you read one of my last posts you'll see that I scientifically challenged some findings.
I feel the thread is at last on the verge of some serious science.
Whatever the outcome we will all learn a lot.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13194 on: August 18, 2012, 12:12:02 AM »
Re the battery. Actually you're both right LOL!
Because TK loops his device - technically speaking a portion of the output is used to power the input - which could also include the battery!!!
So you can say that the output powers (recharges) the battery and the battery powers the input. lol ;D

Kator01

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13195 on: August 18, 2012, 12:23:24 AM »
v8Karlo,

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One other thing.
Run this coil without load, switch off circuit, wait
for 3-5 seconds and grab output and you will get
shocked just as you grabed ordinary cap which is full.
So, coils preserve charge after been switched off.

its not the coils, its your Cap which is polarized in reverse by the negative breakdown-puls upon shutoff which has an open path through the kathode of your diode.

Kator01

jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13196 on: August 18, 2012, 12:27:13 AM »
 Here is Meyl on the subject of longitudinal waves and how it all works. I know he is talking about Tesla but he is the only one reproducing his work and having it work! This is a voice recording but it has great schematics in the video portion as a slide show. Check it out.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7SR4vF_pug&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13197 on: August 18, 2012, 04:33:51 AM »
I measured this without load, only V-meter + 2uf / 2000V cap at the output.

Hello,
 
Don't really like to spoil the party, but when I analyzed the 2 coils circuit with my engineering senses on, and if the quoted above is correct, I don't quite see an unusual behavior, or free energy for that matter. If the first coil is the energizing one, and the second a receiving one if you will, then this is mostly magnetically coupling, transformer action. The second coil is getting energized by the changing magnetic flux which is introduced from the first coil. Without going too much into detail what's happening during turn-on and off of the MOSFET (it will require much more typing, :) ), let's simply say, since the second coil is not really load terminated (2uF is not much of a load), its voltage will go to high heaven in order to release the stored energy. Simple experiment, take a coil, energize it briefly with few Volts tops, and then let it go. You'll see huge voltage being developed on it as it tries to release the energy being stored, easily going over a hundred volts, maybe more (depending on the coil inductance). Another fact to consider that goes inline with the above, is that the performance is not as good when air core coils configuration is used, compared to the ferrite core one.
 
In order to confirm this, can you pls use some resistor as a load. Depending on the value of the resistor used, and the direction of windings of the coils, most likely few decaying oscillations cycles will occur after MOSFET is being powered off, as the second coil will energize first coil, which will again energize the second, and so on ...
 
Most likely the free energy is not in this configuration, maybe somewhere else though.
 
Regards,
Digilab

Jack Noskills

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13198 on: August 18, 2012, 09:02:12 AM »
v8karlo, could you test drive my version of your circuit ? Your circuit gives volts, my circuit divides volts but increases amps. What if combination of those two circuits would give the power ?

First you would need to play with my circuit alone, I have tested it only at 50 Hz sinewave. No idea how it works with higher frequency or with square input. If results are good, then you could add this at your output/input to get the missing amps. You should try this using toroid shape as toroid is much more powerfull than rod shape.

v8karlo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13199 on: August 18, 2012, 11:34:24 AM »

Hello,
 
Don't really like to spoil the party, but when I analyzed the 2 coils circuit with my engineering senses on, and if the quoted above is correct, I don't quite see an unusual behavior, or free energy for that matter. If the first coil is the energizing one, and the second a receiving one if you will, then this is mostly magnetically coupling, transformer action. The second coil is getting energized by the changing magnetic flux which is introduced from the first coil. Without going too much into detail what's happening during turn-on and off of the MOSFET (it will require much more typing, :) ), let's simply say, since the second coil is not really load terminated (2uF is not much of a load), its voltage will go to high heaven in order to release the stored energy. Simple experiment, take a coil, energize it briefly with few Volts tops, and then let it go. You'll see huge voltage being developed on it as it tries to release the energy being stored, easily going over a hundred volts, maybe more (depending on the coil inductance). Another fact to consider that goes inline with the above, is that the performance is not as good when air core coils configuration is used, compared to the ferrite core one.
 
In order to confirm this, can you pls use some resistor as a load. Depending on the value of the resistor used, and the direction of windings of the coils, most likely few decaying oscillations cycles will occur after MOSFET is being powered off, as the second coil will energize first coil, which will again energize the second, and so on ...
 
Most likely the free energy is not in this configuration, maybe somewhere else though.
 
Regards,
Digilab


Hi,

If you work only with your senses you will never find anything.
It cannot work like ordinary trafo because its windings are shorted, and they
are circuit for themself if you better look at it.

You can rearange any trafo in 1 minute to work like capacitive, and
then you can do any test you want. That is why I put those
schematics on forum.

This is basic principle of operation. There are far more complicated
setups which I think you are not ready for them if this simple
thing is too much for you.

I am not trying to offend you, bye!