TK has done an experiment on an island.
No electricity supply within a mile.

Also I have read in two places the city government shut down one half of the city he was demonstrating in to detect power theft. Seems a lot of people jumping in trying to derail this...

Hoppy, All,
You are absolutely right. The amount of energy produced by TK devices can only be achieved through reactions in the "deepest hidings of matter".  There should be no doubt that TK devices are real, they are energy converters, not energy creators.
There  were many suggestions on how to approach this problem. The hints came mostly from TK himself (through his videos, not his talk), Wesley, verpies and sometimes myself.
However, there was no discussion in relation to these suggestions. If at all, there was only outright rejection of these ideas.
It is understood that playing with various implementations of back EMF is fun and the results are immediate; the bulbs are shining with reasonable efficiency, the spark-gap is  firing...  Playing with resonance can also be rewarding: e.g. the Tesla coil will produce high voltage, if implemented properly. But without creating conditions that would involve the "hidings", the results will be, as they always have been.
This is not to discourage anyone from experimenting and reporting results, having fun; quite the contrary.
This is about expectations.
P.S. Output voltage and output current have to be measured simultaneously, not separately, to estimate the output power.

Hoppy, All,
You are absolutely right. The amount of energy produced by TK devices can only be achieved through reactions in the "deepest hidings of matter".  There should be no doubt that TK devices are real, they are energy converters, not energy creators.
There  were many suggestions on how to approach this problem. The hints came mostly from TK himself (through his videos, not his talk), Wesley, verpies and sometimes myself.
However, there was no discussion in relation to these suggestions. If at all, there was only outright rejection of these ideas.
It is understood that playing with various implementations of back EMF is fun and the results are immediate; the bulbs are shining with reasonable efficiency, the spark-gap is  firing...  Playing with resonance can also be rewarding: e.g. the Tesla coil will produce high voltage, if implemented properly. But without creating conditions that would involve the "hidings", the results will be, as they always have been.
This is not to discourage anyone from experimenting and reporting results, having fun; quite the contrary.
This is about expectations.
P.S. Output voltage and output current have to be measured simultaneously, not separately, to estimate the output power.

Hi I must agree with you in measurment case.
For power measurment is very important to measure both values simultaneously like aperage and voltage.
v8karlo have very fresh look on OU and his solution is very promissing, but without correct measurment is a toy, I'm sorry for this word but this is true.


And one thing, what about automatic resonance? This was a story about a dragon?
regards

The spark gap in this setup is for demo purposes only as this is on the output of his trafo setup. In all cases I am thinking the SG is for over voltage protection and not part of the power generation, at least in this situation.

I am getting ready to try a few experiements myself, just finishing up my secondarys for my Tesla coils then I can focus on the cap coil idea, going to try air core first then try with a ferritte core. Now what would happen if one would cascade 2 such units? what would the output be?

This setup reminds me of the SM TPU large center core torrids, I wonder if this was the secret, input caps (yellow), 555 timer circuits for driver and a second air core coil for amplification, just thoughts... something to try I suppose.

Thats right, spark gap was only demo to show that HV voltage is present.
This setup isnt miracle kW power plant. It is new way of induction which
is more efficient than classic one. It works in a different way and show us
new paths.
It works like capacitor and when capacitor is in strong external field, charges tends
to separate on its plates, it is natural way and it is not something new.

Maybe TK dont drive his capacity coils at all. They are under HV strong Capacitor Coil
and in its strong field and in that field charges in that 2 coil tend to separate naturally
without external driving and maybe you just have to pulse output to get charges move.

Attach small led diode to small electrolitic cap and put it in dense field of tesla coil and
led lits, same thing with strong cap field, maybe this is principle of his device but made with coils.

Anyway, we are closer to truth than yesterday, thats for sure..!

I was watching his videos many times and my opinion is that the theory of capacitive
separation of charges under the strong static field holds the water.

In that case you dont spend much energy, only to drive flyback to maintenance
big outer capacitor coil full at all time. And his consumption is 200-400mA, 220V.
If you drive any coil inductively you will spent much more, but if you drive only
flyback to maintenance charge on cap you will spent exactly that amount
of energy.

So this isnt my quest to full you around. I just gived you few new fresh ideas which
has logic in it and can be done without rocket science.

TK isnt using mosfets, but bipolars and his freq. is very low but he is using caduceus
which is best capacitive coil I've seen. Remember Stiveps video. Caduceus and
Coaxial at one end, which can be capacitor.

Good thing is that we started to understand processes in his device and it wont be long
before someone hits the right combination.

It is very simple: all that is needed is the rectifier and  the DC to 220V/50Hz inverter  .

TK uses an inverter with output power of 5KW? Is this hidden in the tin can?

TK uses an inverter with output power of 5KW? Is this hidden in the tin can?

 

Inverter is big blue box device. It serves to convert direct current to 220V sinewave. He is using it
to loop back 200-400mA, 220V to drive his device.
His device has pulsed direct current output. In that video he attached car battery directly to
output of his device. If his device has alternating current output (sinewave) I dont know
what will happen to car battery but it wont be good, trust me, and
in that case he wouldn't be needing Inverter at all.

v8karlo has stated that he had not taken a loaded output power measurement, so he presumably took the 900mA - 1100mA output short circuit current (with meter directly across output) and 1200V open circuit voltage stated in his post 13151 and came up with approx 1KW (P=VI). A true power measurement has to be taken with a load and the output power will likely vary with load and the output voltage will of course drop below the open circuit measurement.

P=V*I is a valid calculation only for DC

P=V_rms * I_rms is valid for DC, Pulsating DC and AC only when the voltage and current are in-phase (0 degrees) and both are  measured with RMS meters capable of operating at the crest factor and  frequency of the PDC or AC.

P=V_rms * I_rms *cos(phi) is only valid for sinusiodal AC only when the phase difference (phi) between voltage and current is known and both current and voltage are measured with RMS meters capable of operating at the crest factor and  frequency of the PDC or AC.

If the phi is not zero and the waveform is not DC or sinusoidal then power calculation cannot be made.  It can easily achieve 900% error or more.