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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407491 times)

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13020 on: August 14, 2012, 10:57:57 PM »
RE the earth wire: I am certain that it is connected to the neutral circuit of the device. But we should not be surprised.
His patent says so.

OK, but was it also connected to the neutral side of the domestic mains wiring. That's what your team needed to establish by insisting on inspecting what was below the concrete around the 'earth' rod.


jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13021 on: August 14, 2012, 11:17:31 PM »
jbignes 5 No-one is denying Tesla technology.
Tariel does not use it that's all. The spark gap in both aquarium videos is used as a load limiter. Kapanadze has other builds with no spark gap at all. He simply wanted to fool us all. We know the TK build is some kind of transformer.
The rest is smoke and mirrors.


 The process can be done without spark gaps. Tesla said that himself. The spark gaps are easier low tech way to get the sudden discharges needed for the energizing energy. In fact Tesla said that he could use a great many gaps and there would appear to be no spark between them and still got oscillations. So the spark really isn't the key. It's what is going on within the transformation. If you include Iron it messes it up severely.


 Although Iron has it's merits even if it retards the flow of the magnetic portion of the fields. Like in the motor/generator setup he uses it to get near synchronizing of the rotor to the field present in the iron field core to the rotor. The field coils are very important and the prime mover rotates the heavy copper on the rotor through this rotating field breaking the synchronicity and doubles the generating speed.
 Along the same lines Iron has a way of staying magnetized per Leedskalnin especially when it is in a circular path(PMH).


 Think about the PMH for a moment and you can see where I am going. When the PMH is in operation it holds itself together with great force right? Well wouldn't that magnetic force still be present even if there was no break? In effect you would charge the ring up and use the electric field to grab and manipulate the magnetic field for very little cost... Kinda like squeezing a ring hose and rotating the squeezing points.


 Also at some point someone changed the angle that the field coils are oriented. Looking at modern designs and Tesla's designes they changed the angles of the filed coils. Tesla's is oriented 90 degrees and most motors'generators field coils now a days are oriented 45 degrees and they don't go around the field core either. Where Tesla's designs are vastly different almost always en-circulating the field cores.


 They have designed inefficiency into the current motors/generators of today to sell more current and make it more valuable.


 This deviation from the old ways has deluded us into a false teaching about "electricity" and it's effects. There is more then the magnetic field and up until recently there are some that are rediscovering these facts. The exciters being the biggest rediscovery in my honest opinion.


 The reason this has been shelved is because it was associated with the static form of energy and was put in the same space as static electricity. We never explored that area because it was thought as a destructive nuisance. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact I would say it has everything to do with "free" energy and life itself in all forms to even the mechanics of planetary bodies.


a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13022 on: August 14, 2012, 11:37:06 PM »
a.king21 are you sure it said?, this would mean a lot to me!
He said it lots of times. Our attitude was "well OK". It's still Kapanadze's discovery we'll honour our agreement -whatever the secret is. Even if it is ridiculously simple. That's why I am very interested in Jack Noskills.  I am also very interested in solid state 3 phase. They appear connected. (I think Bob Boyce's toroid  is a little too complicated for TK.)
Tariel also mentioned that he had experienced gravity effects and on one occasion at a certain frequency had punched a hole in concrete. This would indicate longitudinal waves, but  he was not talking about the aquarium 2 device. He does all kinds of experiments.
So I think that somewhere between 3 phase solid state and Jack Noskill's discovery is where the secret lies.

cheappower2012

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13023 on: August 14, 2012, 11:39:02 PM »
@a.king21
 I will be up front with you,I appreciate your posting of your information
to me its an exact replay of Jack
Durbans postings,that provided the key to understanding the tpu
and the correct direction to go.Jack Durban had a hidden agenda
that was revealed later.Why do you surround yourself with  conmen and crooks
this makes me very weary of your true agenda.You should talk to overunity members
Milehigh and TinselKoala,TinselKoala I know by reputation,Milehigh I know more personally
ask them about your so called FE researchers,Bedini,Bearden (hot air
)and others they will give you an honest answer.Altho they do not believe in ether TK's device or
the tpu,I agree with 99% of what they say.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13024 on: August 14, 2012, 11:53:39 PM »
Jbignes 5 . PMH: When I first saw the demos of Leedskalnin I though that it was oh so Kapanadze. So I built one.
Here's a fact. The magnet keeper is not so nearly as strong as an electromagnet when energised. So it's not true to say that it is as powerful.
Build one and find out.
Yes I managed to hold the device by the keeper also.
In fact I built 2.
I'm gonna use them in a v gate replication when/if  I get my neos from China.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13025 on: August 15, 2012, 12:11:23 AM »
@a.king21
 I will be up front with you,I appreciate your posting of your information
to me its an exact replay of Jack
Durbans postings,that provided the key to understanding the Pu
and the correct direction to go.Jack Durban had a hidden agenda
that was revealed later.Why do you surround yourself with  conmen and crooks
this makes me very weary of your true agenda.You should talk to overunity members
Milehigh and TinselKoala,TinselKoala I know by reputation,Milehigh I know more personally
ask them about your so called FE researchers,Bedini,Bearden (hot air
)and others they will give you an honest answer.Altho they do not believe in ether TK's device or
the tpu,I agree with 99% of what they say.
I did a whole heap of radiant energy experiments. I was puzzled by a lot of results. Then I read Bearden's books and lo behold - the answers to my questions.
The problem is people do not do the experiments.
I do not know Bearden or Bedini nor do I talk to them. I am aware of the CIA allegations. But I know people who know them. Stop trying to read nonsense into what is an honest attempt at a simple business venture. Too much conspiracy theorising and not enough experiments.
I am in future not going to respond to accusations. Too little time for it. I will only respond to science.
All I will do to any future allegation is to copy and paste this response.
My motive is to make a living and heat my home as cheaply as possible. Is that so hard to understand?
 

frankidel

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13026 on: August 15, 2012, 12:36:24 AM »
I did a whole heap of radiant energy experiments. I was puzzled by a lot of results. Then I read Bearden's books and lo behold - the answers to my questions.
The problem is people do not do the experiments.
I do not know Bearden or Bedini nor do I talk to them. I am aware of the CIA allegations. But I know people who know them. Stop trying to read nonsense into what is an honest attempt at a simple business venture. Too much conspiracy theorising and not enough experiments.
I am in future not going to respond to accusations. Too little time for it. I will only respond to science.
All I will do to any future allegation is to copy and paste this response.
My motive is to make a living and heat my home as cheaply as possible. Is that so hard to understand?

yeah, i hear you, if it is so simple, maybe he just wired a transformer the wrong way, output out to input.  i wonder if you plug the transfo stepup and you feed it back to the source.
Btw, if it runs at 50 hz, he has an inverter, so the only thing left is the transfo. i think but not sure.

pix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13027 on: August 15, 2012, 12:39:27 AM »
jibigne5:
"What about the hairpin experiment? Don't you think the heavy copper coil is exactly that? Just like in the hairpin experiment there are nodes setup on the heavy copper bar. This is where the energy is coming from, plain and simple. It's is so simple a common man figured it out."

That is it!
As Tesla stated :disruptive discharge where rate of switching is important, not frequency- create nodes and antinodes along conductor, where amount of V per unit length  is important.
Imagine make a loop of heavy conductor and disruptively pulse it "hairpin" ( or Lecher lines) style. You create distribution of a large V/cm nodes.Then connect your load between place where node and antinode exist.
Voila- you have your power.
Consider another thing- simple spark discharge is in fact an current amplifier.Read about Townsend discharge, Paschen's law or work of Loeb and Meck.It is an electrical "chain reaction".
Keep it simple.....
 
Regards,
pix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13028 on: August 15, 2012, 01:02:32 AM »
I have this Kapanadze aquarium trans  8)

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13029 on: August 15, 2012, 01:05:02 AM »

yeah, i hear you, if it is so simple, maybe he just wired a transformer the wrong way, output out to input.  i wonder if you plug the transfo stepup and you feed it back to the source.
Btw, if it runs at 50 hz, he has an inverter, so the only thing left is the transfo. i think but not sure.
Quite possibly: it is something simple. Something an electrical engineer would not try because of the training.
Although I suspect a toroid transformer. Anyhow I am looking into 3 phase solid state right now because it is a big clue.
But the good news is that if you figure it out I can offer a commercial outlet also, so there is a financial incentive as well as the ou prize on offer.
One more thing:- Kapanadze is not capable of designing the hydro-mechanical stuff. He employs someone outside his circle to do that. So he is even prepared to pay for his "smoke and mirrors". Again I think the 2004 video is a big clue. It is almost as if he wants to erase it but cannot, so he tries to make us forget about it.
He first discovered the effect in 1996. So he made very little progress until 2004.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13030 on: August 15, 2012, 01:07:36 AM »
Bernhard: excellent posting. That's the stuff we want to see. Thanks.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13031 on: August 15, 2012, 01:18:09 AM »
Bernhard: Do you know what device the transformer was taken from?
Do you know the power specifications?
Can you measure the inductance?
What year was it manufactured?
Any info would help.

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13032 on: August 15, 2012, 01:23:53 AM »
@a.king21
 I will be up front with you,I appreciate your posting of your information
to me its an exact replay of Jack
Durbans postings,that provided the key to understanding the tpu
and the correct direction to go.Jack Durban had a hidden agenda
that was revealed later.Why do you surround yourself with  conmen and crooks
this makes me very weary of your true agenda.You should talk to overunity members
Milehigh and TinselKoala,TinselKoala I know by reputation,Milehigh I know more personally
ask them about your so called FE researchers,Bedini,Bearden (hot air
)and others they will give you an honest answer.Altho they do not believe in ether TK's device or
the tpu,I agree with 99% of what they say.




These public challenges DO NOT belong on this form...they serve only as distractions and disruptions!!!!!

Take personal issues elsewhere.

I do not want to read unqualified accusations!

If anyone persists in this behavior, you demonstrate that they do not belong here either.

To that end I will personally contact Stefan to have further disruptive influences on read only status.

I am trying to learn something here, and can do without the personal conflict...and I am quite capable of discerning the truth by myself.


BTW...welcome back jbig...you sure write a lot, but there is a lot in what you write.

Regards...




a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13033 on: August 15, 2012, 01:33:44 AM »
Another photo.  I asked Mike about the heat in the device: He said the heater was banging out a lot of heat and it was uncomfortable to get close for too long, but he could not discern any noticeable heat coming from the device itself.
He also said that when Kapanadze turned off the device he pushed a button on the device for a few seconds, then it turned off.
 

Bernhard

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13034 on: August 15, 2012, 01:38:27 AM »
a.king21 :
in first photo date 09/1982 year
block-module  power source from industry "EC-0912" 12,6V-2A  NK53112