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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14744613 times)

Offline yfree

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11985 on: June 13, 2012, 08:15:01 PM »
Well, we all are looking for some valuable informations..... Do you know that ....SR913 is from Russia  ?  Right ?  So ??? ???

Where do you think is some discuss about his device ?  >:(
You can find a lot of information on SR193's device on this Russian discussion forum:
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=4.1000
It is not very active now, but it was then. Some schematics are quite interesting there. They are not perfect, but interesting.
On this particular page there is a link to SR193's first video, (Первое видео SR), but you may have seen it before.
Powodzenia!

Offline cheappower2012

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11986 on: June 13, 2012, 10:12:09 PM »
@yfree do you know what became of SR193,hes replication is
the only one that is self running if true.Do you know who posted the schematics was it him or someone that
tried to reverse engineer hes replication.

Offline yfree

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11987 on: June 13, 2012, 11:53:33 PM »
@yfree do you know what became of SR193,hes replication is
the only one that is self running if true.Do you know who posted the schematics was it him or someone that
tried to reverse engineer hes replication.
The schematics you can find on Russian forums are not coming from SR193. He never published any schematics. The schematics are very close to what would be expected for the device to work, but not quite. At that time, the working principles of the device were not known. Without this knowledge it is rather difficult to guess what is inside the coil or what is needed to make it work. The articles by William McFreey published in the PJKBook changed all this. After reading his articles, I basically know what to expect and what has to be done to get power from a device that looks like the one SR193 has shown. However, at the end of his May article, McFreey promises to publish schematics for the type of devices he discusses there. So, for the time being, I am anxiously waiting to see if he keeps his word, instead of building a device myself.
Best of luck,

Offline linoavac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11988 on: June 14, 2012, 12:28:06 AM »
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/magnet_electromag.jpg
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion.jpg



this to SHARE ----- cutting negative magnetism WITH electromagnet (advance)
ELECTROMAGNETIC SHIELD
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.friends LINOAVAC.]

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11989 on: June 14, 2012, 07:26:45 AM »
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/magnet_electromag.jpg
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion.jpg
this to SHARE ----- cutting negative magnetism WITH electromagnet (advance)
ELECTROMAGNETIC SHIELD
This is an inappropriate forum for devices with moving parts. 
This is a Solid State forum.

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11990 on: June 14, 2012, 02:30:31 PM »
Yes, no visible moving parts on Kapanadze device. Not even trimmer resistor or trimmer capacitor (only one moving fan).

Quote from: Hank Mills
Resonance between a primary and a secondary in a Tesla Coil is a function of many variables. Two of these variables include the physical length of the primary and secondary windings, and the frequency at which the primary is pulsed. There are mathematical equations that can allow you to calculate these factors ahead of time.
http://pesn.com/2011/04/29/9501818_Tesla_Coils_for_Dummies/

Maybe this is a silly question, but has anyone yet tried to run a Tesla Coil in Joule Thief mode?

http://www.bigclive.com/joule.htm

A Joule Thief circuit needs no VCO-IC like a LM566 (this LM566 idea seems from p. 409 anyway) and it needs no »mathematical equations calculated ahead of time«. It auto-resonates at its own frequency with just one transistor. So the idea would be, to apply manually a high voltage start pulse to the spark gap and the Tesla primary coil. This creates a voltage pulse in the secondary coil(s). Then this pulse is used for feedback to the transistor which drives the HV transformer (or whatever creates the HV for the spark gap) and therefore the next spark fires just at the right time in order to keep the primary and secondary coils in auto-resonance.

There are no much in his lab, Capacitors old TVs without HV transformers, and other old soviet parts and etc... But this are some 4, 5 years ago.
what has Tariel say at that time was that device is very simple.
..and at that time – in 2003 when Green box was filmed in his lab are no ossciloscopes (only old soviel frequency reader) thats all...
As it seems ...

But the relatively complicated circuit with a voltage controlled oscillator (and complex patent specifications) contradicts this. Very interesting!


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Offline jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11991 on: June 14, 2012, 02:45:35 PM »
 Standing waves...


 Thought I would do an extensive research on that and low and behold strings or lines came up.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLF71B362214423F9D&NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=vqv0hy_4iKM

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWAPKDSxks&feature=BFa&list=PLF71B362214423F9D

 Now add Longitudinal wave:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAB-d8VnZ8&feature=BFa&list=PLF71B362214423F9D

 And wave theory:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IforxtGa2n4&feature=BFa&list=PLF71B362214423F9D
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLF71B362214423F9D&feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=lt8z9xLFBDA

 And on to the electric field.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvNd-0AYAVg&feature=BFa&list=PLF71B362214423F9D

 The wave theory and tubes is very telling to the method done by Kapanadze. He is sort of using gusian surfaces to create a pumping wave through the device. My including of a element that has capacitance and be energized should make it happen very easily. Each video shows a component of the system. From lines to forces we should be able to simulate and design a working pumping device.

 Hmm.. What does our military know by now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=leCEmJA0WsI

 hmm this has got to be my favorite.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtzfKnUhL-A&feature=related
« Last Edit: June 14, 2012, 08:38:20 PM by jbignes5 »

Offline Shokac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11992 on: June 14, 2012, 08:04:37 PM »

But the relatively complicated circuit with a voltage controlled oscillator (and complex patent specifications) contradicts this. Very interesting!


Pattent is not complex.

It is very simply.

Frequncy adjuster/stabilizer is spark gap
Filter is condenser
HF generator is Juel thief for making high voltage
Bobins is coil.
Electronic component in this patent is transistors for Juel thief.

All electronic in aquarium device is for automatic start, for inverter and for automatic loop.


Again, TK with high voltage making current and put in standard voltage circuit (Inverter or grid)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11993 on: June 14, 2012, 08:10:39 PM »
Shokac,
tell me one thing.
Why inside patent TK have 2 coils?


Everybody talking about 3 coils...
What's up?


I don't see any resonator on there.


Do you know answer?


Frantz



P.S.
I will draw my idea in two variants and I will put it here.


Offline Shokac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11994 on: June 14, 2012, 08:17:48 PM »
Shokac,
tell me one thing.
Why inside patent TK have 2 coils?


Everybody talking about 3 coils...
What's up?


I don't see any resonator on there.


Do you know answer?


Frantz

Yes, have 3 coil.

1. Coil for HV in Juel thief
2. Primary coil with spark gap
3. Power Coil (Secundary). In this coil TK pump current with HV. (I don't no how)


Offline jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11995 on: June 14, 2012, 08:45:10 PM »
 Kapanadze pumps the current from the ground through induction into the load coil which is energized by the sparkgap and heavy coil to ground. each ground will have a different potential to it allowing a current loop to form which is drawn up into the load coil and inductively sucked for current. Remember current flows twords voltage after voltage establishes the connection. Thats how Kapandze does it. Any loss of current in the ground is replaced by the environment of air and ground.

 I'm thinking the transistor is only to pulse the output at the required frequency. This also will give finite control over the current in the loop.

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11996 on: June 14, 2012, 09:15:53 PM »
Pattent is not complex.

It is very simply.
Over 800 pages so far for a patent that is not complex.  ???

HF generator is Juel thief for making high voltage
Normal Joule Thief does not make high voltage (realm of 3KV). But the idea could be close.

My problem is, how to get high voltage with 1 to 2MHz in order to synchronize it with the resonance frequency of the Tesla coil?

Regular flyback transformer runs with approx. 20KHz. This is to low. My inverter transformer from LCD backlight resonates at 250KHz. Not enough, or I'm to stupid to get the circuit right.

But this is a nice toy to investigate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvjhkvUnYqc


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Offline Shokac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11997 on: June 14, 2012, 09:16:22 PM »

 I'm thinking the transistor is only to pulse the output at the required frequency. This also will give finite control over the current in the loop.

Gap in the Spark is cca 1mm. Spark make high voltage 2000V or more.

How make high voltage in small box without high frequency ?????

For high voltage in 50 Hz need big transformer.... (like transformer for neon sign). This transformer not fit in small box :-)


Transistors is for make high voltage (high frequency discharge)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11998 on: June 14, 2012, 09:35:43 PM »
Kapanadze pumps the current from the ground through induction into the load coil which is energized by the sparkgap and heavy coil to ground. each ground will have a different potential to it allowing a current loop to form which is drawn up into the load coil and inductively sucked for current. Remember current flows twords voltage after voltage establishes the connection. Thats how Kapandze does it. Any loss of current in the ground is replaced by the environment of air and ground.

 I'm thinking the transistor is only to pulse the output at the required frequency. This also will give finite control over the current in the loop.


I can't to agree with you.
in video 2004 TK had only one ground...
and no antenna....

And about transistor(s),
I think transistor is used only for flyback transformer. For 50 Hz is used capacitor, and time constant of this part. When you tune HV you will to have longer or shorter time of charging a capacitor.


Like I wrote previously, HV sucking electrons in bifilar resonator to one half of it, when will be discharge of cap via SG electrons going back to stable level etc. again and again... in this point is generated strong current inside resonator....



Frantz
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11999 on: June 14, 2012, 09:42:06 PM »
Over 800 pages so far for a patent that is not complex.  ???

Yes, unfortunately.
all think too complex.
Simulation with software :-) :-). Is is fany.... :-) :-) Free energy in simulation ... :-)

Take 7 thing on the table. HV diode, normal diode, high freqency generator for make high voltage, smal bobin (coil) and conedenser (1,2 or 4). Spark gap.


Normal Joule Thief does not make high voltage (realm of 3KV). But the idea could be close.

My problem is, how to get high voltage with 1 to 2MHz in order to synchronize it with the resonance frequency of the Tesla coil?

Regular flyback transformer runs with approx. 20KHz. This is to low. My inverter transformer from LCD backlight resonates at 250KHz. Not enough, or I'm to stupid to get the circuit right.

Why ???
If connect spark gap between condenser HV generator and coil, getting resonance circuit. Spark gap is use for automatic change frequency in ac circuit. Or for condenser discharge in DC circuit. Talking about HV circuit.

Regards