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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 11644596 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11370 on: April 22, 2012, 09:01:59 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11373 on: April 22, 2012, 03:19:28 PM »
Aniac5satate,
This isn´t a OU device, It could be, but the aim was simply demonstrate that with AV plug to Tesla Coil the corrent didn't go all through the primary

If you want a massive OU device look this:

I still did't try this schematic but I believe that it can produce a lot of power and self-charging
If I'm wrong correct me please

This design combine EV gray, Tesla, Utkin, Wesley group and Zilano recent posts

Please give me feedback

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11374 on: April 22, 2012, 04:30:53 PM »
Aniac5satate,
This isn´t a OU device, It could be, but the aim was simply demonstrate that with AV plug to Tesla Coil the corrent didn't go all through the primary
Please give me feedback

No the schematic with the bright lamp not AV plug. I need to know what lamp it is for calculations first.
I tell you later how you can use that simple schematic for OU.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #11375 on: April 22, 2012, 08:36:20 PM »

Tesla: " The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers.  I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower.  In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.[/font][/size]I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum.  For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower.  That is how these wonderful effects are produced.  The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives.  There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser.  There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.[/size]
A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower, put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil.  The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot.  Instantly I put it there, there was an explosion.  That was a striking experiment.  It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now."

 Capacitors are the workhorse Tesla used! They are the shooting mechanism he used. The trigger was the quenched spark gap. Without these two devices no system could put out more then what you put in.


 So the condenser is the force provider with the quenched spark gap being the activator. The target is the primary of the second coil. The fist coil is only used to get to higher voltages to fill the condenser. If you shoot the charged condenser into the primary of the second transformer you can take out huge amounts of energy. But I am thinking the second transformer must be setup in the right manner to allow for run away. This runaway is needed to generate the power one wanted out of the second circuit or transformer.

 What I am thinking is that Tesla found a way to harness this explosive power of the condenser. He devised a way to allow his system to pull in whatever it needed and to harness it to whatever device he wanted including Motors eventually with appropriate cooling from the increased heat produced in the process.
 Tesla's special transformers (Toroids) were almost exclusively used in this process but special attention had to be paid attention to heating of the iron within the core.
 This was also evident from the fan he adopted to his pierce arrow experiment. What I think he did was design a way to harness this high voltage burst to pass through the atmosphere between to antennas (one small and one large(focusing)) then into specially designed toroid transformer that was around a core. The ratio of copper wire was resonant or equal but the gauges were different. The outside being very small and the inner(armature) being very very thick. This did two things: One it stepped down the voltages into very high currents and two it kept the high current at bay. The huge magnetic fields would have been reflected back inwards from the inductive action going from the armature to the field coils. In the motor design he used the toroids acted in two ways: one of a lock on mechanism to create a synchronous of the armature and toroid and the second it created a shielding effect of the currents being transformed in the armature. Tesla also talked about shorting the armature at the peek of the up-slope of the pulses picked up in the armature. Why I don't know but that gives credence to the report his nephew made. The tubes are used for that purpose and are only employed after the armature coils. Tubes=very high current capability.
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 The major problem I see with the report is that everyone assumes it was from the power transmission. This is in error seeing that he has patents which include a self excited generator with included prime mover. If he could extract 5-10 times the input from the disruptive condenser discharges then he didn't need transmissions at all. The only thing he would need would be the initial surge to start the process then everything else would self resolve. Including replacing the energy needed to kick start the process. Yes he had antennas he used in the process but those were for concentrating(intensifying) and harvesting the gains he needed to run the prime mover. This was evident from the fan he had to use on the prime mover(transformer).

 Further revelations from Tesla:

"What sort of apparatus was it connected up to for the purpose of absorbing these waves?

Tesla

It was the same as shown here [Fig. 38].  It was connected to the condensers, and these condensers were discharged through a primary which excited the secondary; the antenna was included in the secondary.  At other times we discharged the condensers directly so that I could use the antenna without the secondary.

Counsel

In the same way did you note the operation of these waves?

Tesla

We did, of course, only in most cases the instrument of reception was different.  When I operated with these continuous, or undamped, waves, generated in this way, I usually went to high frequencies.  I did operate [at] a very few thousand, but that gave me a smaller output.  Such a machine you have to operate at high frequencies to get power.

Counsel

What do you mean by high frequencies?

Tesla

I mean frequencies of 30,000, 40,000, 50,000, or something like that."
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 12:22:52 AM by jbignes5 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11376 on: April 23, 2012, 04:04:00 AM »
@ronotte

Thanks for replying to my PMs. As you know I have blown one of my FGs as well as two DC power supplies, a volt meter and endless mosfets and I am really getting scared of blowing any more equipment.

As per your suggestion I took a look again at the ECD circuit which I am posting below.

I have built and tried the circuit but cannot see anything really so I think I am making some mistake.

First off, the IRF7307 I had already purchased when @verpies recommended it but because it was so damn small (SO-8) I was afraid fo trying to solder such a small component. Well this weekend I decided to try it again and have succeeded after great hassles.

What is confusing to me is that your circuit is showing the positive of the supply side going through the source drain when the IRF840 is an N-Channel. Is it possible that your circuit is wrong. I built it exactly like it is shown with the caps and 10k resistor but it does not work. Also on your circuit, it is not clear is the pulse generate signal negative is also connected. Also the power supply negative is going to the mobius loop shield but Terminal 4 of TB-1 is going nowhere. Maybe I am looking at the wrong circuit diagram.

If you have a circuit like this, can you please take a picture of it and post it so I can see where I am going wrong.

If this can work, then I would not have to always work in fear of losing more and more equipment which is definitely not cheap.

Anyways, I put up a photo of my circuit close up and a far shot to show how I am using it. Because I want to have a good pulsing component for the flyback return form the primary of the FBT, I am doing the following.

Pulse generater to
ECD circuit to
Toroid coil with bucking mode primary and series secondary to
Primary of FBT.

I want the toroid to drive the flyback primary as I have future plans for such a toroid once things can get working.

@woopy

I just love your last video man. That is just great and you are definitely onto something so please keep at it.

@stivep

Incredible coil winders. My wife and I usually drive down to New York in the summer for a few days so maybe we can meet. I would love to see your shop. That toroidal winder is so nice and I have two nice cores to test with a possible wind method. hehe.

I would like to eventually get a toroid winder and so so many builds. My son just purchased his first home so he will be moving out end of sprng and this will enable me to expand my office space. Then I will look for one. hehehe.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #11377 on: April 23, 2012, 04:19:44 AM »
@wattsup


 Have you tried the mag amp I referred to earlier?


http://www.themeasuringsystemofthegods.com/magnetic%20amplifiers.pdf


 This is a book written by the US Navy. It shows all the types of mag amps back from the 50's. Give it a look see and you'll see that you don't need to buy expensive parts. You can just build it with common parts. If you read into the book it will show you all the different types of mag amps and how you can make them with all kinds of feedback and controls to get what you need. Mag amps are very very tough and robust and even have great efficiency as well...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11378 on: April 23, 2012, 10:09:44 AM »
 Hi wattsup,

I do understand you frustration about choosing the correct circuit for driving such huge flyback.  So, lets go with order:

1. My mosfet circuit driver’s correct. I used many of them without any failure (I even did PCB for them), simply the ECD's coil is driven from TB1-1 to +Voltage.  Mosfet’s gnd  is connected to TB1-6. Basically is a simple low-side switch driven by a proper complementary driver and input opt isolator. Nothing to discover. Just pay attention to floating voltages needed in order to isolate the components. Perhaps you get confused by the many wiring in my complete ECD schematic (pse see my easier pulser only pic). Anyway such circuit’s tailored to drive ECD’s coil hence NOT good for flybacks that need special approach (as you know very well). Mainly you can chose between a single transistor oscillator or the much better push-pull approach.

2. Push-pull approach. As probably you are aware there are many possibilities using either JBT of mosfet. Generally I prefer to use mosfets mainly because they are more efficient and…I’ve lot of them. One of the best & easier  circuit in my opinion has been shown by WNG’s group (see attached detail): here there’s a main oscillator with frequency & duty cycle control (good for experimenting…without destroying costly prof oscillators) using a TL494 IC. Such device provide two separated complementary outputs just good to properly drive  the two TC4422 mosfet’s drivers. In turn the latter drive in contro-phase the two IRFP460 (or the like) power mosfets. All the material is low cost and total assembly time on a small board is quick. TC4422 probably need a small heath sink while the final IRFP640 do need a bigger heath sink. All the design, you see could be floating and use a small  12V battery. Final mosfet’s supply is from CT (pin 1): here you could supply DC voltages from 12V to about 1/3 of max allowed final mosfet Vd...of course you have also to put a strong decoupling circuit. Safety zener (or the like) protection could be placed between each drain and GND. Same is possible to protect Gates: just a small 15V zener to GND.

If you have any question do not hesitate to contact me.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11379 on: April 23, 2012, 10:43:38 AM »
This is elektromagnetic field of external Kapanadze coil.

Inner coil (Grid coil) have smoler electromagnetic field.
Kapanadze inner electromagnetic field increases with external coil and increases curent in Grid coil.

Only the fields must match the frequency to get the effect of increasing current.

Whoever finds a way to automatically adjust the frequency of the external solenoid with Grid frequencies that would reveal the secret Kapanadze.

 But to think it is very simple and using only capacitors, diodes and spark




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11380 on: April 23, 2012, 01:25:07 PM »
Why don't we ignore the reality?


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/Solenoid_magnetic_field.jpg


 Why is it most only see the Magnetic spectrum and ignore the electric field? They both exist at the same time do they not? Kapanadze is using high voltage and that means the electric field is the strongest of the two fields.


 No one wants to read and learn I guess. They have their minds set already as to the process and this is why they are failing! Yes diodes, spark gaps and capacitors can be used only in this process. It is that simple, plain and simple.

Condensers(capacitors):
 "I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum.  For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower.  That is how these wonderful effects are produced.  The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives.  There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser.  There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive."

"The method was this: I had a 550-volt current with which I charged the condensers.  These condensers I discharged through a primary in the form of an arc, sometimes I also introduced in this arc a mechanical break of several thousand per second.  And I obtained a perfectly continuous train of waves as has been described in my patents.  The reason why I show the condenser here [Fig. 83] is that that is synonymous with undamped waves.  If I had shown the whole apparatus as arranged there, then I might still have damped waves; but whether I use an alternator or some other way of getting energy to that condenser, the condenser is usually there.  For instance, if I use an alternator, I shunt its terminals with a condenser in order to magnify the current in the primary.  I then tune this circuit to the alternator, and magnify the current in the primary in the ratio of the inductance to the resistance.  Therefore, this condenser here stands for either method, and simply means that in this system, as is obvious from the description in the patent, the waves are undamped because high rises of potential would not be obtained otherwise.  Whenever I wanted to obtain a high potential, I had to observe these rules in order to force the potential up to that value."

Antennas and little magnetic radiation:

"This coil, which I have subsequently shown in my patents Nos. 645,576 and 649,621, in the form of a spiral, was, as you see, [earlier] in the form of a cone.  The idea was to put the coil, with reference to the primary, in an inductive connection which was not close—we call it now a loose coupling—but free to permit a great resonant rise.  That was the first single step, as I say, toward the evolution of an invention which I have called my "magnifying transmitter." That means, a circuit connected to ground and to the antenna, of a tremendous electromagnetic momentum and small damping factor, with all the conditions so determined that an immense accumulation of electrical energy can take place.

It was along this line that I finally arrived at the results described in my article in the Century Magazine of June 1900.  [Fig. 43] shows an alternator; not the alternator that was furnished for my laboratory on Houston Street—that was another one, [but] at 35 South Fifth Avenue [and] operated on the same principle.  Here [lower left] are the condensers, primary, and all the rest.  The discharge there was 5 or 6 feet, comparatively small to what I subsequently obtained.  I have produced discharges of 100 feet, and could produce some of 1,000 feet if necessary, with the greatest facility.

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Mr. Tesla, at that point, what did you mean by electro-magnetic momentum?

Tesla

I mean that you have to have in the circuit, inertia. You have to have a large self-inductance in order that you may accomplish two things: First, a comparatively low frequency, which will reduce the radiation of the electromagnetic waves to a comparatively small value, and second, a great resonant effect.  That is not possible in an antenna, for instance, of large capacity and small self-inductance.  A large capacity and small self-inductance is the poorest kind of circuit which can be constructed; it gives a very small resonant effect.  That was the reason why in my experiments in Colorado the energies were 1,000 times greater than in the present antennae.

Counsel

You say the energy was 1,000 times greater.  Do you mean that the voltage was increased, or the current, or both?

Tesla

Yes [both].  To be more explicit, I take a very large self-inductance and a comparatively small capacity, which I have constructed in a certain way so that the electricity cannot leak out.  I thus obtain a low frequency; but, as you know, the electromagnetic radiation is proportionate to the square root of the capacity divided by the self-induction.  I do not permit the energy to go out; I accumulate in that circuit a tremendous energy.  When the high potential is attained, if I want to give off electromagnetic waves, I do so, but I prefer to reduce those waves in quantity and pass a current into the earth, because electromagnetic wave energy is not recoverable while that [earth] current is entirely recoverable, being the energy stored in an elastic system.

Counsel

What elastic system do you refer to?

Tesla

I mean this: If you pass a current into a circuit with large self-induction, and no radiation takes place, and you have a low resistance, there is no possibility of this energy getting out into space; therefore, the impressed impulses accumulate."

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11381 on: April 23, 2012, 01:52:41 PM »
Why don't we ignore the reality?


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/Solenoid_magnetic_field.jpg


 Why is it most only see the Magnetic spectrum and ignore the electric field? They both exist at the same time do they not? Kapanadze is using high voltage and that means the electric field is the strongest of the two fields.


 No one wants to read and learn I guess. They have their minds set already as to the process and this is why they are failing! Yes diodes, spark gaps and capacitors can be used only in this process. It is that simple, plain and simple.

Back to basics:
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

No diodes or capacitors will change natural resonant frequency. The coils itself need to be adjusted for that. "Parasitic stray capacitance" in coil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_capacitance) is your friend not enemy in that realm (remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil ?).
Also if you miss natural resonant frequency and make just LC resonant frequency, you miss resonant magnetic interaction on nuclear level too. Please see what E. Leedskalnin was telling about small particles as very small magnets then hopefuly that will bring some understanding... ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11382 on: April 23, 2012, 03:13:07 PM »
Why don't we ignore the reality?


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/Solenoid_magnetic_field.jpg


 Why is it most only see the Magnetic spectrum and ignore the electric field? They both exist at the same time do they not? Kapanadze is using high voltage and that means the electric field is the strongest of the two fields.


Magnetic field make electric field. Two magnetic field make strong electric field bat only if the in phase and must be alternating or pulsating current.

Hi Voltage and spark make strong electromagnetic fields like lightning.


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« Reply #11383 on: April 23, 2012, 04:47:50 PM »
Magnetic field make electric field. Two magnetic field make strong electric field bat only if the in phase and must be alternating or pulsating current.

Hi Voltage and spark make strong electromagnetic fields like lightning.


 Magnetic fields do not make electric fields. Electric fields are the support for magnetic fields. The one requirement for any transfer is the electric field. Since the electric field is not dependent on current it looses little in it's propagation. But on the other hand magnetic fields loose strength based on the inverse square law. This is because there is a lot of current in the magnetic field. Since there is a lot of current there is a lot of loss. The electric field has no current to loose and hence why it can go leaps and bounds further for less.


 http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/

 This is just one explanation of the process. If there is no electric field there is no magnetic field. Although the difference is the electric field is based on volts per meter and the magnetic is amps per meter. But if you have no electric field then there is no associated magnetic field. The electric field could be either internal or external of an object. In the case of magnets it is internal and the magnetic lines are going through the internal electric field accelerating and then exiting the object and interacting with the external fields. This is done in the creation of the magnet or object. In the case of iron it is very possible that the material is highly electrical inside or at the very least highly organized particles that can be energized with the electric field. This causes the alignment and subsequent movement of the magnetic lines that are organized by the electric field internally and sort of tightened like a loose string of pearls. With the string being the magnetic portion and the pearls being sub sub sub particles that are highly charged and oriented by the internal electric static field. Magnetic's is a concentrated electric field or current(movement) of electric field.

  The picture below is a very very basic understanding of the fields and it doesn't show line density which is another variable. Electric lines are the only thing associated with this model. Because everything is based on 90 degrees. Meaning forces of the lines must obey 90 degrees to facilitate free movement of the lines otherwise the lines just get denser based on + (++) charge being stronger then - (+). The lower possible charge level is ambient of the surrounding environment. This would be considered negative -(+) when compared to the + (++). This is proven by the experiment of the Tesla switch.

 The example is +12 and +24 volts with the negatives connected together. This results would allow you to run a motor that is based on 12 volts. The negative in this example would be the 12 volt and the positive would be the 24 volt side. The difference between the two is 12 volts and the motor runs as usual. The lines act the same based on the charge level of the nucleus in the picture. The closer to the nucleus the higher the density of the lines. This includes all the lines especially the "magnetic" lines. The density for the electric lines radiating out is actually the spacing between the bulges. I haven't figured out if the in and out are are real yet. I am leaning twords they are not and it is a single line but still have bulges because they are vibrating like a guitar string. They revolve but are the signal type like we see on an oscilloscope.
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« Reply #11384 on: April 23, 2012, 06:34:15 PM »

 Magnetic fields do not make electric fields. Electric fields are the support for magnetic fields.

It is opposite when you have oscillating magnetic fields. All electrical generators are based on this... ;)

 

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