Here is translation of table .
Type of wire :
П - Провод - wire
Ð - Ðмалированый - enamelled
M or B - type of enamel
The last number -- diameter of wire .
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@Osiakosia
Thanks a heep. This really helps and based on the above table some things are getting much more clear now adding wire diameter and resistance with turns is just phenomenal.
There are two versions of this TBC110LA flyback transformer:
Russian and Lithuanian.
Russian got single secondary;
Lithuanian got double 1:4 secondary;
We used Lithuanian with Caduceus primary...
@T-1000
Wow so there is a Russian and a Lithuanian TBC-110LA just to double the complication.
You see in that table where you see the TBC-110nA. If that table is correct, then the Official diagram of the WNYg flyback cannot be right.
In the official circuit we see there is a split primary (1-2 and 2-3) connected at 2-3, one 5 split secondary (4-9) and one split HV (10-11).
But the double secondary models as per the table says as follows;
1) Split primary 1-2 (48 turns 0.23mm) and 2-3 (48 turns 0.23mm). On some WNYg circuits the connection is 2-3 with 1 not used so half the primary is not used or is resonant to
?, and on other circuit diagrams we see the connection as 1-3 that uses the the complete primary coil of 96 turns.
2) Split Secondary 4-5 (80 turns 0.41mm) and 5-6 (80 turns 0.23mm).
3) Single Secondary 6-7. Technically does not exist so this makes a problem in all the diagrams.
4) Split secondary 7-8 (610 turns 0.23mm) and 8-9 (190 turns 0.23mm). So here is where the fun starts because you have a capacitor across the 7-8. So the HV- goes to 9-8 then 8-7. Technically it cannot go further then that unless 7 is physically jumped to 6 to then go through 6-5 and 5-4 to exit from 4 and go to the Caduceus center output.
Otherwise the HV- leaves the flyback at 7 and not at 4 which would mean that 4-5/5-6 is left as an open non-connected coil.
So if the HV- is on 4, there has to be a jumper from 6-7. So is it possible that the WNYg group has been using that fyback without realizing that there is no coil between 6 and 7 and that in fact the HV- at 9 only reaches 7. I will expand on this further down.
The only other possibility is that the HV- leaves at 4 and there is no jumper at 6-7 but that would mean the HV- from the HV is just going through the 9-8-7 (7 is left open) and just stops there, and, then a fresh open lead 6 starts fresh at 6-5-4 where 4 then goes to the Caduceus center output (so 6 is also open). This would mean the HV- stops inside the flyback primary/secondary side and starts again from there but without being actually connected in series to the HV-.
So we need to find out which one it is and stop this guessing game. It is amazing why such a simple component such as a flyback can wind up being so complicated to try and understand. Whatever we do to try and replicate the WNYg effect all depends on how it is really connected and seeing from the diagrams, they are not complete.
This again, as I fall back to where we were a few months ago on this question, I am just totally puzzled as to why it would be so difficult to take that TBC-100LA flyback and do a live measurement of resistance between the pins to see exactly what it is and how it is really connected.
So, anyways this post will be a long one because after so many flybacks being used, so many tests and set-ups, so many hours of trying to replicate the slightest effect, there are some major points that need to be cleared up. One major point is that running a flyback with only 4-5 watts input and getting a light to light up is next to impossible with the flybacks I have used thus far. Yes, I have seen my bulb light up somewhat but the input was more like 40 watts or more and not 4-5. So if the flyback you have is the main reason, because the rest of the set-up is pretty standard issue stuff like the Caduceus coil does not require rocket science measurement and the rest of the components when they are in place should be more then adequate to achieve the effect. So where are the differences is the question we must ask ourselves and consciously try to explain.
I took a grab of the TBC110LA (or TBC110nA) flyback from one of @stiveps last videos on the WNYg and have placed pin numbers and shown the wires going back and forth to the flyback to identify each one. As you will notice I added a Question 1 (Q1) showing a pair of wires that leads to the flyback but I cannot find any source for those wires in the video. I would like to know what they are.
@ALL
I also prepared a Flyback comparison looking at the main differences. In most all flyback transformers you have a Primary, a Secondary and an HV coil.
1) Modern Flyback: These types are the ones we see most often. They however incorporate all three coil types in the same winding reel as well as include internal diodes that are not suitable for the type of output required in the WNYg devices. Since all winds are in the same reel, any heat generated in one coil will affect to life span of the other coils. Also, the wire gauges used are extremely fine and offer less possibility to be run in harsher pulsing schemes.
2) Older Flyback: These are like my FLY295. This type has the Secondaries and the HV coil wound on the same core side and reel. Although much better then the Modern types, you still have the chance of burning out the coil from excessive heat. Also, the only real types of this design that are worth trying out is if the Secondary is completely isolated from the HV otherwise the HV will eventual burn out the Secondary. But even then, this design has the secondaries wound first onto the core reel, then the hV is wound over that so the HV coil never has very close coupling to the core.
3) TBC110nA: This flyback is the best type to use with the WNYg devices although they are very hard to find. Luckily we have been able to identify the winding turns and wire diameters so making such a coil will not be so hard. The main cruz of this coil is that the HV coil sits alone on one side of the core. The primary and secondaries sit on the other side of the core on the same reel. This may be a little bad but depending on how the coil is being used, it can work to the experimenters advantage. First we have to consider that the HV- of the HV coil is sent into one of the secondaries before it heads off to the caduceus Coil. This usage of the HV- in this manner will create effects tht we can only dream of at this point.
So imagine that the primary pulses and produces output in the secondaries as well as in the HV coils. If you want, you can also pulse the secondary and create output in the HV coil and the other secondaries as well as in the primary. It works both ways at varying degrees of output. But the main point here is the HV- going back into the secondary. When i tried this with several modern flybacks, they produced fantastic outputs but the flybacks blew within 10-20 minutes. They could not take the beating because all was happening on the same coil reel. THE TBC110 separates the HV coil from the secondary/primary coils so there is no totaling of heat generation. The heat in the HV coil stays there and the heating the secondary coil has an easier time to dissipate since there is nothing else covering it. The inter coil effects this will generate are tremendous since each Pri/Sec coil can act like a Pri or Secondary. The HV- in the Sec creates a second primary in the secondary that then acts additionally upon the HV coil that then send back again to the secondary and in there you will be creating some very messy pulsing.
Anyways, sorry for such a long post but I hope guys will now realize the importance of the TBC flyback. My next post will identify how to make a TBC flyback.
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