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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16408299 times)

Ghazanfar_Ali

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10425 on: February 03, 2012, 06:52:36 AM »
@Broli
Plz try this and let me know. I think as I mentioned earlier when I started these posts I gave some initial parameters. u have to set the rise and fall time of the pulse generator either 10ns or its much better to keep it 500ns. I dont know why it damps on rest of the values. May be its the exact resonant freq. I am attaching my sim file of NI Multisim. Check the simulation and let me know.
Thanks and Best of luck.

Mannix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10426 on: February 03, 2012, 08:08:44 AM »
Edit ....file works now thanks Ali.!
« Last Edit: February 03, 2012, 10:42:14 AM by Mannix »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10427 on: February 03, 2012, 09:03:30 AM »
@Broli
Plz try this and let me know. I think as I mentioned earlier when I started these posts I gave some initial parameters. u have to set the rise and fall time of the pulse generator either 10ns or its much better to keep it 500ns. I dont know why it damps on rest of the values. May be its the exact resonant freq. I am attaching my sim file of NI Multisim. Check the simulation and let me know.
Thanks and Best of luck.

Ali,

I downloaded your multisim file and it runs OK here.
Linux system / running Multisim 11 .0 under VirtualBox

I've got transistors, capacitors on there way and working on winding inductor now.

Looking forward to pics or video of your setup.

Thanks for sharing!

broli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10428 on: February 03, 2012, 10:53:02 AM »
@Broli
Plz try this and let me know. I think as I mentioned earlier when I started these posts I gave some initial parameters. u have to set the rise and fall time of the pulse generator either 10ns or its much better to keep it 500ns. I dont know why it damps on rest of the values. May be its the exact resonant freq. I am attaching my sim file of NI Multisim. Check the simulation and let me know.
Thanks and Best of luck.

From your file I managed to make my setup behave the same. What seemed to be important were the simulation settings:

Maximum Time step: 0.0001s
Relative Error Tolerance: 0.01
Truncation error overestimation factor: 7

Those are the main values that need to be set in order to get the effect. Changing any of those will result in the voltage damping.

I hope the attached zip is not corrupt this time.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10429 on: February 03, 2012, 11:25:48 AM »
Good stuff Ali!
 
Could you try what happens with higher pulses, for example 9 volts, 18 volts, 27 volts, multiples of 9 for nine volt battery started device. To see how the output power scales up.
 
Have you managed to do loopback yet ? When you do, Stefan here has some money stashed for you. Also go and get your goldmedals from Doc: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11661.0
 
You are using ferrite toroid. Is it possible to use nanoperm, permeability is 80000. I am asking because I got some of those laying around, small ones, 63 mm outer diameter, 23 mm high, 13 mm thick.
 
Did you start new thread already ? Did not yet see it in front page.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10430 on: February 03, 2012, 12:06:50 PM »
trumpet waveform lasersaber jouleringer circuit with capacitor across low voltage coil


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU4WqiZ5tbk&list=HL1328264874&feature=mh_lolz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10431 on: February 03, 2012, 01:01:44 PM »
Ali !! The sim works .
I have added a switch. It is very  interesting for sure!

Multisim is available on trial for free so there is no reason not to at least try it for your selves.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10432 on: February 03, 2012, 02:36:25 PM »
Which component is the 800W being measured in, R1? 100 Ohms?

I wonder how he is measuring it.

.99

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10433 on: February 03, 2012, 02:44:32 PM »
Which component is the 800W being measured in, R1? 100 Ohms?

I wonder how he is measuring it.

.99

Hi,  here you can see Ali's simulation:

http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg311409/#msg311409 

He uses the built-in wattmeter instrument (circuit simulator is National Instrument MultiSim but he mentiones Orcad too which shows this extra output,  however LTSpice does not show extra output...)

Gyula

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10434 on: February 03, 2012, 03:18:34 PM »
Which component is the 800W being measured in, R1? 100 Ohms?

I wonder how he is measuring it.

.99

Measuring 818W between R1, 10 ohms and ground.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10435 on: February 03, 2012, 03:38:09 PM »
OK, thanks gents.

I'm not that familiar with Multisim, but all simulators are much alike. I'll sim it up in PSpice and post my results.

I can assure you that there is some misunderstanding regarding what Ali is measuring, or how he is making the measurement. At the very least, something is not being accounted for.

I think we all understand that it is impossible to achieve an OU result with SPICE.

Regards,
.99

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10436 on: February 03, 2012, 03:39:26 PM »
Question:
   At 11:17 min. in the new Tariel video the unit is started, lights come on drawing about 22 amps but there is no spark gap. Does anyone know whats going on here? Does he speak about the roll that spark gap plays?. Also I believe they measure input amps at around .5.

  Also, the wire feeding the lights is solid cable, but the wires on the coil appear to be stranded wire. The core appears to be solid, could it be possible that the output wire is connected to the core directly?

-Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10437 on: February 03, 2012, 03:42:35 PM »
OK, thanks gents.

I'm not that familiar with Multisim, but all simulators are much alike. I'll sim it up in PSpice and post my results.

I can assure you that there is some misunderstanding regarding what Ali is measuring, or how he is making the measurement. At the very least, something is not being accounted for.

I think we all understand that it is impossible to achieve an OU result with SPICE.

Regards,
.99

I wouldn't have given it much attention but he seemingly replicated this with real hardware as well. So I ordered the parts and see what'll happen. Truly too good to be true :p.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10438 on: February 03, 2012, 03:47:46 PM »
I wouldn't have given it much attention but he seemingly replicated this with real hardware as well. So I ordered the parts and see what'll happen. Truly too good to be true :p.

Measurements can be made improperly both on the bench and in SPICE. Rosemary Ainslie is a prime example of the former.

.99

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10439 on: February 03, 2012, 03:50:11 PM »
coaxial cable reveals nothing without understanding what you are doing.
– in this video it is used as inductor coil (it has a needed area for that) at that moment they don't have sufficient thickness cable. that's all.  /sorry for my poor English/

P.S. you have rights to not believe me, but respect what I'm saying... i don't want to mess up with your work, but – listen what I'm saying!

At least, for High Voltage are used Trigger schematics (Gas ignition is great choice for that) but you can make simple one – and it works in same way! Learn Tesla patents – everything is there, but peoples want to build a space ship. :)

/The secret is not in power, but controlling electric currents in magnetic field/

That is the point
You not reading carefully enough
You not watching carefully enough
You not analyzing carefully enough
It is not me who is doing something it is TK  helper who assembled this device to present it to me.
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Cosmo LV:coaxial cable reveals nothing without understanding what you are doing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YPVwfnvqw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAPe3DiYt2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBgDwG2ZLkM this one start from 09:15


Conclusion:
Coaxial cable was utilized in video 2004 [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4X5zy0piSg[/size]
and in TK show to me.


SHVGS ( Stupid High  Voltage Generating System) from gas operated heating boiler
generates
-burst of impulses for few seconds than stops 
-sensor wire  fins that spark is no longer there and sends burst again
-when flame( plasma) is present sensor senses current(? voltage)
and do not send request to electronic circuitry  for next burst


For Tariel the importance is  presence of spark.
In presentation for me personally Tariel device did not have spark gap
that means that spark gap is only HV DC chopper
that means that most likely, spark gap is not important if other means could replace spark.


I was not sure in series of my videos  how that spark creating device was connected to coaxial cable.


But I know I think right now how SHGS works.


Coaxial cable has inner conductor and shield
 All purpose is to have HV impulse present in coax but not in inner wire as shield would normally shield  the EMF. But what about electrostatics hm?
You have 3 wires form withe box
You have 2 ends of coax inner conductor
You have 2 ends of coax shield
There is nothing in addition connected to it
 so connect it. that mechanism I described here is sustain.
There are many of you who sweep market from white boxes.($7-$15)
Connect coaxial cable and try it making sure that burst is sustained and supported by sensor!!


One part of puzzle will be  clear. for both instances
- TK from presentation to me
-TK from 2004


Wesley
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