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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15453688 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8760 on: November 15, 2011, 01:01:30 PM »
By pulsing the copper strip, and assuming ferrite has a core ringing (singing) frequency, then anything wound on it should be able to pick it up ("hear it").

Since Mr.Itsu is sleeping now and no new experimental data for this exotic ferrite is expected for several hours, I'd like to take this time to theorize a bit.

Since the domains in ferromagnetic material are made out of matter,  they should have mass.  These domains are apparently also capable of physical movement as evidenced by the Barkhausen Effect and the action of the pinning defects in hard ferromagnets. See:
Section 1.3.3 - Coercivity, Handbook of advanced magnetic materials, Tom 1 by Yi Liu,Daisuke Shindō,David J. Sellmyer

In soft ferromagnetic and ferrimagnetic materials, like our Russian yoke, the domains should be able to easily rotate around their own centers when subjected to a rotating magnetic field created by two perpendicular windings driven by two sinewaves 90deg. out of phase.

By "rotate" I mean the spinning of the macroscopic domains around their center of mass, not the rotation of the aggregate magnetization polarization vector created by the addition of many domain vectors (the latter can happen without the rotation of individual domains).  Also, I do not mean the rotation of electrons (spins) within the domains or Electron Spin Resonance effect (ESR).

Now, if these domains indeed can spin like that and they possess mass then they should be able to acquire significant angular momentum in such rotating magnetic field. Unlike linear oscillation, such domain rotation should persist for a longer time even after the stimulating rotating magnetic field is removed. Longer decay time should facilitate observation.
This domain rotation should have specific precession frequency when disturbed by an electric field perpendicular to the axis of this rotation as well as some Lorentz forces interactions.

In summary,  the 2D stimulation of a ferri/ferromagnetic core by a high frequency rotating magnetic field, should make it "sing' in a different manner than a 1D linear stimulation by conventional bulk LC resonance setups.

To spin up the domains and to measure this effect, two sinewave signal generators would be required.
These generators would have to be always 90deg. out of phase and always tuned to the same frequency (harmonics would work also, but not as well).
The outputs of these two signal generators would feed two perpendicular windings around a ferri/ferromagnetic core.
As the frequency of both of these generators is swept in the kHz - MHz range, the rotational domain response of the core should be observed.

By comparison, the 1D linear oscillation of the ferrite with just one signal generator / winding should be much weaker.

Sounds familiar?
« Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 01:28:56 PM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8761 on: November 15, 2011, 01:37:20 PM »
Which ferrite should I use. I have two of them, one has lower height/bigger diameter, the other bigger height/lower diameter than one that you used. (I added link to picture of two ferittes)
Do you maybe have any diagram of feritte caracterictics?

I like the bottom-right ferrite on your photo better.
The BH characteristics of the ferrite OC-90.38ПЦ12 which is used by the inventors in the working device, will be measured soon by the user Osiakosia (see his posts in this thread) . Note that other ferrites are not guaranteed to work.

What's your native language?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8762 on: November 15, 2011, 02:35:18 PM »
I like the bottom-right ferrite on your photo better.
The BH characteristics of the ferrite OC-90.38ПЦ12 which is used by the inventors in the working device, will be measured soon by the user Osiakosia (see his posts in this thread) . Note that other ferrites are not guaranteed to work.

What's your native language?

Slovene - similar to Russian, but not the same. Dimenssions of that ferrite are:
hight=3cm, diameter at bottom=11cm, diameter at top=7cm, inner diameter at bottom=10,2cm, inner diameter at top=5cm
Work is in progress, i don't have all the material yet. Problem will be with variable capacitor and HV probe x1000. Slowly, no hurry - evrything at proper time.
let the oil barrel suffer  :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8763 on: November 15, 2011, 02:46:39 PM »
Slovene - similar to Russian, but not the same.

If you are still in Slovenia then you should be able to find one of the following Russian TV sets that were imported from Russia during the cold war.  These TV sets have that magic ferrite OC-90.38ПЦ12 in them:

Foton C-220.
Wjesna C-276
Gorizont C-256, C-256(D), C-257, C-257(D).
Rubin C-201, C-205, C-207, C-255(D).
Elektron 722, 723, 724, 725 726, 72S, 731, 733, 734, 736, 738, 739, 740, 741, 742.

The names and symbols above have been transliterated from the Cyrillic to Latin alphabet.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8764 on: November 15, 2011, 02:57:36 PM »
Good morning :-),

thanks for the theory Verpies, lets see how this can be put into practice.
First some open questions:

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The 2turn loop is around what?  It's not shown on the video...

Its not in the video,  i measured it later on.
What i normally do to measure the natural resonance of a coil is to use my FG, attach a small loop of 2 turns (1 cm o.d.) and "couple" this into the coil under test,
in this case in the center of the yoke coils.

Then hookup my scope and sweep through the 2Mhz (square wave) range of my FG looking for sine wave resonance points of the coil under test.
This way i found the earlier mentioned resonance points for the 3 coils.


 
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One more thing I forgot to ask: The FG provides DC or AC signal there?

It must be AC.


Its AC, should be visible on the latest video when scoping the square wave, the red arrow at the left is "0".


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A solution to deal one and for all with this problem is to white noise the copper strip

Well, my FG does not supply white noise and using a PC/laptop application with its audio card surely does not go high enough in frequency.


Anyway, more experiments tonight.

Regards   Itsu.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8765 on: November 15, 2011, 03:16:46 PM »
If you are still in Slovenia then you should be able to find one of the following Russian TV sets that were imported from Russia during the cold war.  These TV sets have that magic ferrite OC-90.38ПЦ12 in them:

Foton C-220.
Wjesna C-276
Gorizont C-256, C-256(D), C-257, C-257(D).
Rubin C-201, C-205, C-207, C-255(D).
Elektron 722, 723, 724, 725 726, 72S, 731, 733, 734, 736, 738, 739, 740, 741, 742.

The names and symbols above have been transliterated from the Cyrillic to Latin alphabet.

I'll check that, but I doubt I could get som of these, as there were several companys in ex Yugoslavia that were manufacturing TV sets.
Thanks a lot.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8766 on: November 15, 2011, 03:48:22 PM »
@All

It may have cost me a meter but I did find this out.

Putting 16 vdc on the copper strip is one thing but when the copper strip gets HV from the flyback at the frequencies I was trying from 1Hz to 50MHz, nothing on the 15 turns so far.

At high voltage, we can start throwing out all our previous results. This is serious stuff. The flyback filled my cap so fast and then beyond, when my LED bank was not on. But when the LED bank was connected, the HV toasted it and my multi-meter. MY MISTAKE. I was only pulsing the flyback primary with one of my FGs and did not expect so much output. Man do these flybacks fly or what?

HV on that copper strip means the whole coil half will be resonating and for the life of me, I don't know how @T-1000 managed to hold the yoke in his hands and split the halves while the device was running with HV. The rule would be better as "ONCE ON, KEEP CLEAR", because of all those wires all over the place you never know when your hands can touch on of them live ones. OUCH. Man does it hurt or what.

I think ultimately, all these resonance procedures will not work because they are being done out of HV context. Every volt you add or subtract from the pulse will change the resonance points. Every duty width will also change this. So I think the best and really only way to find the frequencies will be when all the right voltages are applied to the pulses and you start playing around with the three frequencies at the same time.

So think of the HV as the one that applies a spring to the core atoms holding them in one position and the two primary pulses as the forces that make the atoms turn in one direction or another. Each time the atom turns and is released, under natural forces it would take time for the atom to revert back to its natural directionality, but with the HV over the cores, this is not happening naturally but the atom is forced back into a bias position so each pulse of the primaries is exerting a maximum swing to the core atoms. It is this maximum swing that is conveyed to the generator coil core that is then seeing this a being supplied by a huge coil when in reality it is being fooled to see this and respond with more output.

Here are a few useful flyback links;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Inventors/Tariel-Kapanadze/wesley/flyback-transformer/Flyback_Testing.pdf

They talk about a copper strip in the flyback in this one.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Inventors/Tariel-Kapanadze/wesley/flyback-transformer/Inductor.pdf

Stancor Transformer Catalog
F:\aaaa-overunity\tariel kapanadze\wesley\flyback-transformer\stancor-catalog

More testing.

wattsup

PS; I can only place one attachment to the posts so I  have just pointed to where they are on my OU FTP site.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8767 on: November 15, 2011, 03:50:20 PM »
We used 2 Nicola Tesla methods and nuclear spin polarization  for achieving our results.

Method of exciting environment with resonant frequencies: http://www.rexresearch.com/teslamos/tmosc.htm

"I was experimenting with vibrations. I had one of my machines going and I wanted to see if I could get it in tune with the vibration of the building. I put it up notch after notch. There was a peculiar cracking sound.
"I asked my assistants where did the sound come from. They did not know. I put the machine up a few more notches. There was a louder cracking sound. I knew I was approaching the vibration of the steel building. I pushed the machine a little higher.
"Suddenly all the heavy machinery in the place was flying around. I grabbed a hammer and broke the machine. The building would have been down about our ears in another few minutes. Outside in the street there was pandemonium. The police and ambulances arrived. I told my assistants to say nothing. We told the police it must have been an earthquake. That's all they ever knew about it."

Method for creating artificial ball lightning: http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/ball.htm

"...it became apparent that the fireballs resulted form the interaction of two frequencies, a stray higher frequency wave imposed on  the lower frequency oscillations of the main circuit....
This condition acts as a trigger which may cause the total energy of the powerful longer wave to be discharged in a infinitesimally small interval of time and the proportionately tremendously great rate of energy movement which cannot confine itself to the metal circuit and is released into surrounding space with inconceivable violence.
 It is but a step, from the learning how a high frequency current can explosively discharge a lower frequency current, to using the principle to design a system in which these explosions can be produced by intent."


Effect of nuclear spin polarization: http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA02/papers/p1907.pdf

"The polarization of electron spins cannot be
stored for a long time since it rapidly vanishes after the controlling signal is switched off.
The nuclear spin qubits, on the contrary, possess sufficiently long relaxation times T1, up
to several hours at low temperatures [2]. Hence, nuclear spins can be considered as the
best suitable candidates for a qubit [3].
  Moreover, even in the absence of the external magnetic field, the hypefine can
produce Zeeman splitting of the conduction electron spins, equivalent to that of an
external field of several tesla. This is an example of a ''potential'' magnetic field caused by
the nuclear spin polarization.  "

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8768 on: November 15, 2011, 07:35:48 PM »
Guys, don't you think that Otto's findings can be accomplished somehow to this (your) experiment? This one for example:
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/otto/ottos-open-tpu/
Even if not, I find it a pleasure reading this kind of story. I hope you'll like it, anyway. For those who don't know who is/was Otto: I consider him as another hero of this forum (after Tesla), he was present here till last year, when he died suddenly.  His posts can be found all over this forum; great experimenter…

Post Scriptum:
After hitting "Reply" button to reply, I culdn't find the "Post" button, so I am forced to use the other option to post. (I guess, it's another error of yet another improvement at this Forum).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8769 on: November 15, 2011, 08:56:09 PM »
 ;D

There is also one possibility ..... look... very interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxTrT50mJMQ&feature=related

Noise level...

Fake a "working" Ou device and let people to invent it for youself  ::) very clever physological method

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8770 on: November 15, 2011, 10:32:16 PM »
OK - then give me back ability to post attching shcematics here! Why I m not able to attach small jpegs (60 Kbt) ??? ?
After that I will show a practical schematics of Tigers device for everyone to be able to compare themselves!

Tiger is too busy with new devices and he doesn't care about what you do with his originally replicated device therefore he isn't in connection with what I talking with members here. But for me it is important that his name  still be known in connection with works of other replicators!

I have opened a web for Tiger's devices - be welcome!  You never stop the Truth!
http://germaschka2011.narod2.ru/

than MAKE English translations for EVERY word on those images !!!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8771 on: November 15, 2011, 11:40:48 PM »

NEW INFO ......
NEW OSCILLOSCOPE OSCILOGRAM ...

    http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/

new syte TIGER ...






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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8772 on: November 16, 2011, 12:32:18 AM »
@ all,

Ok, looks like i found something looking like a ferrite resonance point around 1 Mhz.
I will do some further testing the next days.

Video to be seen here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTwk-WBMDBs

Thanks for your reactions.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8773 on: November 16, 2011, 01:19:52 AM »
New "delivery" is on its way.. just wait around 1.5 hour.


Wesley :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8774 on: November 16, 2011, 07:56:35 AM »
than MAKE English translations for EVERY word on those images !!!
Deal!