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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13696062 times)

Offline Mannix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8625 on: November 11, 2011, 01:12:31 PM »
Small update. using free resonance tuning .... high impedance drive from signal generator (lead on x10) and series cap  to 51 wind
square wave 50%

cro across foil strips (very short leads required) cap and cro as close to strips as possible

525 khz in 1.6 mhz out
92 khz in 1.6mhz out...etc etc ..up and down clean resonant rises

The important part is that putting 82 pf across the copper plates the 1.6mhz signal is much larger .



No hv here just signal generator and cro .

It took 2 hours of fiddling  to get it to this point ..I hope it turns out to be  is useful.






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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8626 on: November 11, 2011, 01:21:52 PM »
Anyway, here is an archive with the document you suggested and also all references made in it:
- Nikola Tesla's Later Energy Generation Designs

For those, unable to get it otherwise, it's my-way-style: copy and paste from the site into MS Word. See the attachment.
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Oops! I find problems with this attachment. So, my advice is this: copy and paste from the site to Microsoft Word document, as I've done. The link you can find here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg305168#msg305168
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 01:52:25 PM by Qwert »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8627 on: November 11, 2011, 02:10:46 PM »
A little closer look.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8627 on: November 11, 2011, 02:10:46 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8628 on: November 11, 2011, 02:54:53 PM »
Question for people who are knowledgeable with AVS Video Editor

Any time I have AVI file the video quality  is  good.
but trimming and voice track recording  is being done  with AVS Video Editor

Immediately  after I load AVI to  AVS Video Editor I see from the screen that digits are not  in good quality.
After I finish work  I have choice of formats suitable for web posting.
Usually I chose best quality.. but apart of that I have DVD quality and many more.

Can someone help mi with that problem so the video I'm trying to post will have digits readable?

Maybe  making screen large will help but  AVS Video Editor does not have zoom option.
Anyhow  you look at brilliant quality  of some videos on YouTube and it looks like  every detail is possible to be shown
How  do they  make it?
Please   give me some  knowledge in this area.
If any other program is suggested to be used than I need ability to record additional voice track in English for English speaking audience


Kolega z Chicago moze ma wiecej  doswiadczenia  z tymi programami prosze o odpowiedz.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8629 on: November 11, 2011, 03:20:18 PM »
Question for people who are knowledgeable with AVS Video Editor

Any time I have AVI file the video quality  is  good.
but trimming and voice track recording  is being done  with AVS Video Editor

Immediately  after I load AVI to  AVS Video Editor I see from the screen that digits are not  in good quality.
After I finish work  I have choice of formats suitable for web posting.
Usually I chose best quality.. but apart of that I have DVD quality and many more.

Can someone help mi with that problem so the video I'm trying to post will have digits readable?

Maybe  making screen large will help but  AVS Video Editor does not have zoom option.
Anyhow  you look at brilliant quality  of some videos on YouTube and it looks like  every detail is possible to be shown
How  do they  make it?
Please   give me some  knowledge in this area.
If any other program is suggested to be used than I need ability to record additional voice track in English for English speaking audience


Kolega z Chicago moze ma wiecej  doswiadczenia  z tymi programami prosze o odpowiedz.



Wesley

Use Adobe Premiere – has everything what you need!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8629 on: November 11, 2011, 03:20:18 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8631 on: November 11, 2011, 03:48:45 PM »
Load Group
1 diode 1N8330
1 capacitor 10uF 370v
1 LED bank of 18 red leds that starts lighting at 5vdc.

This is a very inaccurate way of measuring the output power.
Such diode + capacitor circuit does not take advantage of the full power delivered to it.

Also, the lack of full-bridge rectifier wastes half of the power delivered by any symmetrical AC waveform and worst of all causes DC bias in the secondary winding and consequently magnetic bias in the ferrite core. This has the effect of creating additional nonlinearities and harmonics at the output.

Even if the single diode was substituted with a full-bridge rectifier, and its forward voltage drop was disregarded, the voltage across the capacitor would not be representative of the power delivered to such circuit at all.  The power-to-voltage disproportionality error can easily exceed 50% if the source pulse envelope has certain class of shapes.

This happens because the diode blocks the energy flow (power) from the source when the accumulated voltage across the capacitor is greater than the instantaneous voltage delivered by the source. This occurs when the load (LED bank) does not have the time to discharge the capacitor below the instantaneous voltage delivered by the source, before the next pulse from the source arrives.  During this fragment of the pulse, the source would deliver energy to a pure resistive load, but does not deliver any energy to your capacitor+diode load circuit, thus causing serious energy flow (power) measurement error.

Even a light bulb enclosed in a black box with phototransistor would measure power better than your load circuit.
I already discussed power measurement basics below:

...power measurement
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 04:22:43 PM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8631 on: November 11, 2011, 03:48:45 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8632 on: November 11, 2011, 05:36:46 PM »
Here is practical schematic diagram for Tiger device with ferrite Yoki from uSSr TV sets. Approval!!!!
Be aware of not approval replications from others!!!! It may cose damage your brain!

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9781-tigers-device-0-150-1kwt-replicant-2.html#post166451

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8633 on: November 11, 2011, 06:33:58 PM »
Kolega z Chicago moze ma wiecej  doswiadczenia  z tymi programami prosze o odpowiedz.



Wesley

Niestety nie mam doświadczenia z tymi urządzeniami. W tym przypadku radzę zdać się na radę cosmoLV. Reply #8650.
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Good source: http://adobe-premiere.en.softonic.com/
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 06:59:28 PM by Qwert »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8633 on: November 11, 2011, 06:33:58 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8634 on: November 11, 2011, 07:35:22 PM »
This is a very inaccurate way of measuring the output power.
Such diode + capacitor circuit does not take advantage of the full power delivered to it.

Also, the lack of full-bridge rectifier wastes half of the power delivered by any symmetrical AC waveform and worst of all causes DC bias in the secondary winding and consequently magnetic bias in the ferrite core. This has the effect of creating additional nonlinearities and harmonics at the output.

Even if the single diode was substituted with a full-bridge rectifier, and its forward voltage drop was disregarded, the voltage across the capacitor would not be representative of the power delivered to such circuit at all.  The power-to-voltage disproportionality error can easily exceed 50% if the source pulse envelope has certain class of shapes.

This happens because the diode blocks the energy flow (power) from the source when the accumulated voltage across the capacitor is greater than the instantaneous voltage delivered by the source. This occurs when the load (LED bank) does not have the time to discharge the capacitor below the instantaneous voltage delivered by the source, before the next pulse from the source arrives.  During this fragment of the pulse, the source would deliver energy to a pure resistive load, but does not deliver any energy to your capacitor+diode load circuit, thus causing serious energy flow (power) measurement error.

Even a light bulb enclosed in a black box with phototransistor would measure power better than your load circuit.
I already discussed power measurement basics below:

@verpies

Thank you for your comments.

I have tried with FWBRs and there is no difference in the final voltage readings. This is because weather you take half wave or full wave, this will not increase the voltage output (maybe by 0.2 or 0.3 in some cases) but not enough to warrant adding three more diodes.

I have been doing this for a long time now and have come to realize that this is the best and simplest way to  hunt for effects, see the effects and know right away if anything warrants further more precise measurement. Since all the tests are conducted in the same manner, there is always the same comparison base and this is much better then trying many different Load Group strategies. Also, my scope probe is always before the diode so I can see the true waveforms at the output.

I do however realize this is not the best situation but the best situation is time consuming, requires looking at input and output amperage and voltage readings and doing all that while sweeping frequencies is very impractical and in the end, the frequencies you would identify with a more elaborate Load Group will be the same ones I identify with this simplified method so the 50% error you mention would not be exact.

Also, for me it is more important right now to understand the effects, such as the copper strip effect that is only on the Drive Core. This is a very important point that needs further examination and I will try to find another yoke to test that effect more directly. Had I known this before I made this yoke build, I would have done those tests before I put on the final windings on the secondary.

@Mannix

Can you re-do your last post experiment but this time when you have both FG -/+ on the copper strip, try removing the negative and see what happens with only one wire pulsing and sweep for frequencies. I am thinking that maybe the HV does not need a spark gap and one wire only would do the trick. This would really lower the flyback energy consumption as all you really need is for the HV to act on the core. It is as if the HV on the copper strip is analog to a degaussing coil that is quickly resetting or biasing the core ions or atoms for the greatest core movement when the two primaries give their respective impulses. Don't know really but it is very interesting.

@all

My next tests will be with two and three frequencies. This is really where the fun starts.

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« Last Edit: November 12, 2011, 12:13:21 AM by FreeEnergyInfo »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8635 on: November 11, 2011, 08:00:35 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8636 on: November 11, 2011, 08:43:48 PM »
wattsup,

Good job for so far, now you need to run system with 2 generators and ferro-resonant LC circuit on copper plates in smaller yoke's diameter side. They should work as one system in the end of the day... :) And the sinus wave on output in resonance no matter what's on input with highest amplitude is your ultimate target. So copper plates ferrite resonant frequency+50 turns coil resonant harmonics+~50Hz on 15 turns coil to make your setup singing without distortions!
I also left comment for you on your part 6 of youtube video.

Jdo300,
You are on good course with yoke ferrite, in our version it was cone geometry.

CosmoLV,
Actually you could do a favor for everyone and replicate our device or show your working version.. ;)

Ganza,

The first device was made by Nicola Tesla more than 100 years ago no matter what you think :)
Look on his patents and find out his step-down transformer where he was using after magnifying transmitter.
Tiger is part of our team and his device version look similar but is not exactly like ours.
Hope that won't hurt your feeling and you can try replicate device we already did.


P.S> We had difficulty on finding good resonant harmonics on 50 turns coil (explained in instructions video) because our copper plates was too small(0.5cm). The original copper plates was much wider and with double layer. When we did put copper plates with same width, we got more than 15 kilovolts on the secondary coil after final tuning. In my oppinion the best width of copper plates would be 1/4 of deflection yoke heigh, That still needs to be verified but hopefully this will give you good experiment direction.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8637 on: November 11, 2011, 08:53:16 PM »
I have tried with FWBRs and there is no difference in the final voltage readings. This is because weather you take half wave or full wave, this will not increase the voltage output (maybe by 0.2 or 0.3 in some cases) but not enough to warrant adding three more diodes.

That's only because your ratio of the load's resistance to the internal resistance of the source is high.
If you decrease the load resistance (add more load) than the difference between Half Wave Rectifier and Full Wave Rectifier (FWR) would become more pronounced.

The additional advantage of FWR is less harmonic distortion in the source.

this is the best and simplest way to  hunt for effects, see the effects and know right away if anything warrants further more precise measurement.

No it is not.
You are apparently thinking that exact power measurements are not important as long as greater average voltage across your capacitor corresponds to greater true power delivered by the source. In other words, as long as this proportionality is maintained then effects can be judged properly.

...but higher amplitude is not synonymous with higher power !
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crest_factor

What if I show you two waveforms dissipating two different powers in purely resistive load, and at the same time your load circuit showing the opposite? Namely, less average voltage for the higher power waveform and more average voltage for the lower power waveform?

Would you be convinced then, that this is not an appropriate way to measure and judge the effects?

Since all the tests are conducted in the same manner, there is always the same comparison base and this is much better then trying many different Load Group strategies.

I don't suggest many different load strategies.
I suggest only one different load strategy - purely resistive.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 09:22:11 PM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8638 on: November 11, 2011, 09:26:18 PM »
@T-1000

Thanks for your comment. I will continue with more FGs.

@verpies

We know all about the drawbacks as we have discussed this here and at OUR with endless methods. I also know about reactive power, power with higher voltage and power with higher amperage. But all these will manage to bring themselves down to the capacitor loaded common denominator and the volt meter is measuring the stabilized output and not being reactive to high voltages that have no juice behind it.

My scope is usually set at 5 volts and probe at 1x and sometimes I will see the scope waveform jump so high it is only possible to set the probe at 10x, but this high voltage has nothing to do with the true power being delivered to the Load Group. That's why this set up is more flexible. Also, when I started these series of videos, I try to keep it short so guys do not have to spend hours to find one effect. Also, my video 3 clearly was done to show only the FG on the Load Group and what the FG alone can do in terms of loaded output. This is my maximum no matter which way you look at it, technically, I should never be able to go above the Base Level no matter the coils or pulsing, etc. So this is my way to gauge the effects and I must say up till know it has proven to work very well.

Otherwise, can you imagine the number of readings you would require when pulsing not one frequency, but two or three sources. It would be totally hard to keep track of the meters, their numbers, milli and micro amps,  and all will just create continuous confusions and distract from the main goal. It all stops at the output and anything that comes near or above my Base Level will tell me right away without any chance of missing it because I am not continuously looking at other meters.

Anyways, thanks again for your input.

wattsup


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8639 on: November 11, 2011, 09:51:54 PM »
Hello All,

I have finished winding the secondary coil for my setup (see pictures below). I didn't quite get the exact coil turn counts due to running out of the twisted wire I made but I'm hoping that I can make adjustments to compensate for the smaller winding count.

Anyway, below are some basic measurements on the windings:

Copper Strip
0.046 Ohms
8.5 uH

Primary 1
41 turns
0.267 Ohms
712 uH

Primary 2
15 turns
0.113 Ohms
83.5 uH

Secondary
65 x 2 turns bifilar (130 total)
1.36 Ohms
5.13 mH

@ T-1000,

Thanks for your feedback :). I'm getting ready to do some basic pulse tests on the coils to get some idea of what resonant frequency the setup likes to ring. Will post back once I have some additional data to report.

Also, the new op-amp circuit diagram that you uploaded to your website doesn't appear to show the 1-2 turn coil connections for the feedback. (I'm assuming you explain all of this in the video that Wesley is preparing). But anyway, looking forward to more details as I will be ready to start driving the system soon.

- Jason O

 

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