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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406992 times)

pix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8460 on: November 08, 2011, 08:57:07 AM »
What a haos!
566 pages!
And still no schematic with clear legend and explanation how-to-do.
Even source of excess enery is not clearly pointed.Is it ferrresonance?Is it Tesla's radiant event?

Pieces and bits of different information are given (haotically or by the purpose), or I would say-carefully dosed to distract.

More and more I am thinking, this forum is to mislead and drag away people from proper answer.

Those who pretend that have working device and knows the secret- did they gave you full description and explanation? Detailed schematic?
No.A lot of videos, smoke and mirrors....

This is sad.

Regards,
pix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8461 on: November 08, 2011, 09:13:49 AM »
What a haos!
566 pages!
And still no schematic with clear legend and explanation how-to-do.
Even source of excess enery is not clearly pointed.Is it ferrresonance?Is it Tesla's radiant event?

Pieces and bits of different information are given (haotically or by the purpose), or I would say-carefully dosed to distract.

More and more I am thinking, this forum is to mislead and drag away people from proper answer.

Those who pretend that have working device and knows the secret- did they gave you full description and explanation? Detailed schematic?
No.A lot of videos, smoke and mirrors....

This is sad.

Regards,
pix

well put, i agree.

grizli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8462 on: November 08, 2011, 10:08:50 AM »
Why do you think that this is ferroresonance phenomenon and not a fundamental resonance frequency of a shorted Transmission Line with an unusual core?
Note: IMHO the Transverse Coil acts more like a shorted Transmission Line than a lumped LC Resonator.

Could you point me to the URL where Wesley measures the bare Transverse Coil with a network analyzer, please?

Because, one of hise notes

WE HAVE to add cap paralel to 90 degree coil so that there is signal generated at 1,6 mhz

WHY you think that ferroresonance would be EQUAL to lc resonance ?

Every shorted transmission line pulsed and  measured at its ENDS has its own natural resonance frequency, no matter how you represent this line in theory

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8463 on: November 08, 2011, 10:12:23 AM »


Watch video, read forums, i and others, SR, already say everything. i just try to push on the way, not other info will be given. I not let it happen before release this in countries outside USA, UK. This is not religion, nationality or other reason... There are three countries who run the Global world and i think stivep know this very well...

Be patient, it not be released before it need to be! It will come in right time and in right way, this is not a toy! And if we want to change our lives we need to be clever to bypass the globalisation of our lives. if we want to make a change (real change) we need to be smart and calculate steps 100 years ahead. Check 50 times before release it, check the situation and traffic who looking at your "Free Energy" sites i give 100% that it will be General Electric and other Big companies who take it over control in seconds.

i already tested this - how? you know my way... i have years of teaching psychology, more than 20 years of esoteric experience, remote weaving and thanks to this! But they who run this workld – has this too and they can predict almost all your steps if you go vhere you don't need to go. Remember person in airplain who meet stevep and all checkings in airport. If you want to win, you need to be strong phisicly or have esoteric sense on this! This is not a toystory.
I have no bad thought, i just want to change something as you, you and you - but we need do this clever! They who run this word are so smart that we even not imagine! You think we who are not in world running business know how they work? No, we not and we not so smart – They run all world, billions of peoples and this is serious, but we have Green weapon of Free Energy, but this is not Enough to win this game.

Please understand and good lock, and see you at the End ;)

This is the most important message i ever writed, you need to take it serious!

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SR made 60 W bulb self runing

With TV core we can make 1 kW bulb self running (MAYBE we can, nobody did yet ), still not basic replications, but I believe its possible.

SR gave NO information for replication

Wesley and team gave EVERYTHING for replication

I rest my case ;D

You "esoteric people" have to learn that everything happened in ONLY one way, what has happened you cant already change.
And you cant plan the future. It will be what will be.... it will be what is given.
Tesla didnt plan , it was given his knowledge and he gave it away.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8464 on: November 08, 2011, 10:27:13 AM »
When Tesla speak in that time in that place, yes it will be the right moment, but sometimes is too late. he wait too long and lost his chance. Tesla has a great esotheric sense and he know when and why.
Tesla in his notebook say that he are wrong some times http://www.umbrellatech.lv/downloads-3/files/Mystery%20of%20the%20inventor_ENG.pdf

We are humans, we connot always be right – we have own mistakes. See how many mistakes we are maked over history? This is not bad, we teach from this, and Tesla know also – humans need to learn something. If he wanted to share Free Energy, he will give schematics, but he clearly say: "Humans are not ready for it now, but this is only mater of time when it come out"

This is clear explanation? or i need to make more clear? you can do what you like, my message is for those who like to understand, this is not for all, who don't like my posts – no problem, you can ignore.
But take in mind one thing, after all you will be need to accept what i said, because this is true – like it or not.

Only "universum"(God) "knows" if people are ready or not. If that would not be the case there would be NO PEOPLE, and NO LIFE, no nature.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8465 on: November 08, 2011, 10:27:52 AM »
Watch the videos read from page 500.

It is all here.... Wesley and T1000 posts, take some time. Much of it is in the videos

It would  help if people would chose not to discuss politics and opinionated views.

We all have them but it clutters the thread. Build and share ,help others as you are able.

If you have another device that works please start another thread.

Get the described version ringing properly before making changes.

If you dont have the tech skills to understand ,find somebody nearby who does and help them!

One thing worth mentioning is that during my first attempt at tuning , there was a point where i felt vibrations on my skin 18" away from the yoke. Like my skin was magnetic somehow?
Any body else?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8466 on: November 08, 2011, 10:32:47 AM »


This is for what i hard working - this device is not a toy, it has a big deal to change our lives and it need to be done in smart way. I'm not alone here and you too, we need to think globally!

Wesley device is not that easy to replicate, nobody did so far here.

Imagine that he or anyone else make step by step 100% dummy prove way to make OU device and publish on the internet, what can "they" do than ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8467 on: November 08, 2011, 10:34:29 AM »
What a haos!
566 pages!
And still no schematic with clear legend and explanation how-to-do.
Even source of excess enery is not clearly pointed.Is it ferrresonance?Is it Tesla's radiant event?

Pieces and bits of different information are given (haotically or by the purpose), or I would say-carefully dosed to distract.

More and more I am thinking, this forum is to mislead and drag away people from proper answer.

Those who pretend that have working device and knows the secret- did they gave you full description and explanation? Detailed schematic?
No.A lot of videos, smoke and mirrors....

This is sad.

Regards,
pix

Pix, you are very very right.

I really do not understand it!

True some FE effects are hard to replicate even by the original inventor, sure.
But some are very straight-forward and I simply do not understand why these games persist.

When I watch the video Wesley made I can't help but think the effect looks genuine, however the lack of details is near inexplicable.

Maybe it is just a strange non-OU effect that was discovered or an artifact that fooled them momentarily and they decided to make a hoax.

I hope that is not so, but I know 2 things.
1: Overunity does exist.
2: Except for the occasional unreproducible fluke no one who has discovered it has shared all required details for proper success.

If there is an exception it is the sometimes extraordinary results from Bedini type motors, except they are far from a convincing OU device mostly. (Adams, Newman)

Instead it is reliably discovered by asshats that would rather see humanity and the earth destroyed than contribute to the world without making their money off of Free Energy.

Sorry but that is the situation and I am sick of it.

Should we really be looking up to Steve Marks and Tariel Kapanadze and others when these slimy bastards have been given the chance to give humanity a gift that will change life for the better dramatically forever and they squander it.

I am utterly disgusted right now.

Hopefully this effect is real.

I have Tiger's schematic (Thanks Ganzha) and I can tell you that the biggest key difference is that in Tiger's version the inside and outside of the shield are connected to opposite ends of a flyback output with a spark gap to ground on the inner one.
This means the shield forms a capacitor charged to high voltage and reminds me a little of Floyd Sweet's device with HV electric and magnetic fields swamping a ferrite.

Actually this might be a key point as Floyd's effect worked with Barrium ferrite but apparently not Strontium Ferrite.
I have no idea about the composition of soft Ferrites but if there is the same Barrium - Strontium options to choose from then it might be a very good idea to use old Yokes before Barium was phased out.

I guess they wanted to save the Barium supply to dump in toxic chem er  I mean contrails ;)

If anyone asks me for Tiger's schematic I'll happily share it, just msg me with your email and I'll send it. (unless Ganzha asks me not to)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8468 on: November 08, 2011, 10:55:03 AM »
Pix, you are very very right.

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If anyone asks me for Tiger's schematic I'll happily share it, just msg me with your email and I'll send it. (unless Ganzha asks me not to)

why dont you put shematics here publicly ?

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I have Tiger's schematic (Thanks Ganzha) and I can tell you that the biggest key difference is that in Tiger's version the inside and outside of the shield are connected to opposite ends of a flyback output with a spark gap to ground on the inner one

can you draw this ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8469 on: November 08, 2011, 10:58:59 AM »
I looked up soft Ferrites and they are not (according to Wikipedia) made of Barium or Strontium:

The most common soft ferrites are:

Manganese-zinc ferrite (MnZn, with the formula MnaZn(1-a)Fe2O4). MnZn have higher permeability and saturation induction than NiZn.

Nickel-zinc ferrite (NiZn, with the formula NiaZn(1-a)Fe2O4). NiZn ferrites exhibit higher resistivity than MnZn, and are therefore more suitable for frequencies above 1 MHz.

It might still matter which type you use of course.

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« Reply #8470 on: November 08, 2011, 11:33:20 AM »
why dont you put shematics here publicly ?

can you draw this ?

Sorry but I had to agree not to publish it first, but I didn't agree not to share it 1 on 1 and I think Ganzha is ok with it until I hear otherwise.

Believe me I am tempted to share it as is Ganzha, but he doesn't want to step on others toes and I don't want to break confidence.

I will happily explain how to wire it though.

Start with the inner and outer plates unconnected, now attach a wire to the inner plate and run it to a spark gap (the other electrode is ground) but don't cut the wire.
Then take the wire and connect it to one end of the hv secondary of the flyback.

Take the other end of the flyback secondary coil and connect it to the outer plate.

Also in the diagram the core was not yoke shaped but a tall cylinder, the axis of the winding on the core may be around it but that is not clear, the core is not cut and except for a diagrammatic cutaway view the capacitor formed by the inner and outer shells is a full 360 degrees not 180 as with this version.

Another difference is that while the 50hz coil is very similar and straight forward being a function gen. triggering a transistor (the addition of the transistor should not be required if this works as advertised of course) the high frequency coil is run very differently, no function gen.

However since Tiger claims he never got results anywhere near 150w and he was inputting more power I don't recommend it, so I will tell you how he powered it but it, but it is sloppy...

The flyback was powered with a typical 2 transistor circuit that puts square wave AC through the flyback, the HF coil is between this circuit and ground.
The frequency is not carefully selected and the wave form would be a momentary off as the transistors switch over.

In fact it might be virtually nothing, especially since the circuit has a but on impedance.

I have now explained it well enough you only need to read this enough times to understand what I am telling you.

And that is that the only thing Tiger's schematic really adds is a likely improvement by not having the 2 shields shorted but by having the flyback charging them oppositely to many KV (need good insulation!) and a spark gap in parallel with the inner plate going to ground.

Of course maybe that too is not an advantage.

My conclusion is that since Wesley and T-1000 etc seem mum on disclosing the circuit details, all that can be done is to ignore the stuff about sync between the 2 frequencies and just do as good a job as possible of tuning the 2 as well as you can.

Baroutologos:
BTW my thought on how to protect function generators from overload from reverse induction...
If the 50hz coil is just 15-16 turns it won't face much voltage induced as it would be a significant step down from the output coil.
If the high frequency coil has a well selected capacitor in series it won't pass low 50hz to the Gen. but will not be any obstacle to the HF.

Of course despite these differences it is worth noting that the current version is based on Tiger's work and that Tiger used it on a TV yoke as the youtube video shows, so his schematic is likely more useful that none.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8471 on: November 08, 2011, 11:36:52 AM »
Yoke core info:

 1.Materials for Deflection Yoke Ferrites

From 1955 to 1965, when ferrites were first applied to electron beam deflection, Mn-Zn or Ni-Zn ferrites were used. Providing lower resistance, Mn-Zn ferrites were used with saddle toroidal winding. But due to ringing problems, they were gradually replaced by Ni-Zn ferrites, which featured higher resistance. Currently, Japanese makers mainly select Mg-Zn ferrites for their low material costs. Tables 1 and 2 compare the characteristics of different ferrite core materials. Table 3 lists the ferrite core requirements as seen from the producers of deflection yokes. In displays with a 120 kHz horizontal scanning frequency, Mn- Zn ferrites may be employed and, in some special cases, slot- type core shapes are adopted to allow different winding patterns for better heat dissipation. Table-1 Comparison Table of Ferrite Material for DY Use Property Mg-Zn Ni-Zn Mn-Zn Core for Deflection Yoke Core Loss Saturated Magnetic Flux Density Resistivity AC Initial Permeability Curie Temperature Deflection Yoke Coil Rise in Temperature Ringing Cross Talk Beats Cost Total Cost Performance

Link: http://www.fdk.co.jp/laboratory/ce_hon-e.html

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8472 on: November 08, 2011, 11:57:51 AM »
Only "universum"(God) "knows" if people are ready or not. If that would not be the case there would be NO PEOPLE, and NO LIFE, no nature.

We all are part of good ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8473 on: November 08, 2011, 12:23:58 PM »
Hey Cosmo any progress on your devices? thanks in advance

grizli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8474 on: November 08, 2011, 12:48:23 PM »
We all are part of good ;)

then if you 100% know how tariel device work , why dont you share

everything on 50 servers (forums) on the web, nobody can supress that any more :D