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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12884977 times)

Offline dllabarre

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8430 on: November 08, 2011, 12:32:01 AM »
How i understand ans see stevep and others push peoples far away back from real principle of the device! Wry clever and you are still believe....

Why you not take for real what Tariel say? why nobody see at linde's device which Tariel shows at end of green box video? why nobody look at electricity as water and gas?
where are engineering - Kid Garden!!! Return to earth and think with your own head...!!!_______

Why you not take for real what Tariel say?

Please tell us what Tariel said....

DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8431 on: November 08, 2011, 12:35:35 AM »
i have experimented, things are happening the exact way aidas, arunas, wesley say, no theories will make your device work!  DO IT and you will know!!!
everything has to be adjusted piece by piece, you will not suceed with a fixed thing.... 

trust it, the phenomenon is not explained in conventional science, and media will still try to supress it although it can be reached by anyone this time.
All physics books needs either adding more info or completely rewriting... :o

energia9, are you saying that you have achieved obvious OU, lighting of a high wattage bulb with only a few watts input?

OR are you saying that the tuning is going at T-1000 et al said?

I read it as the latter, but if you are actually getting OU can you please make a video or at minimum a circuit diagram and parts list.

Please share!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8432 on: November 08, 2011, 12:35:38 AM »
where is ferroresonance in whole story ?

What type of ferroresonance do you suspect?
1) fundamental mode,
2) subharmonic mode,
3) quasi-periodic mode,
4) chaotic mode.

Once again:
At what frequency do you think the ferroresonance occurs? 
To which coil is this frequency supplied in order to evoke ferroresonance?

P.S.
For clarity's sake, let's use these phrases when we write about the two different kinds of coils:
A) "Transverse Coil" to denote the 1turn coil made out of Copper Plates (or Braid)
B) "Longitudinal Coils" to denote the conventional coils (15turn primary, 50turn primary, and 150turn secondary output coil)

It's easy to remember because Conventional Longitudinal Coils magnetize the core along its circumference and the unconventional Transverse Coil magnetizes the core transversely (parallel to the major symmetry axis of the core).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8433 on: November 08, 2011, 12:47:23 AM »
What type of ferroresonance do you suspect?
1) fundamental mode,
2) subharmonic mode,
3) quasi-periodic mode,
4) chaotic mode.

Once again:
At what frequency do you think the ferroresonance occurs? 
To which coil is this frequency supplied in order to evoke ferroresonance?

P.S.
For clarity's sake, let's use these phrases when we write about the two different kinds of coils:
A) "Transverse Coil" to denote the 1turn coil made out of Copper Plates (or Braid)
B) "Longitudinal Coils" to denote the conventional coils (15turn primary, 50turn primary, and 150turn secondary output coil)

It's easy to remember because Conventional Longitudinal Coils magnetize the core along its circumference and the unconventional Transverse Coil magnetizes the core transversely (parallel to the major symmetry axis of the core).

It does not matter how we call it :

but effect is :

you put noise to 50 turn coil and read peak at 90 degrre coil with spectrum anayser,

that peak is not natural resonance of 90 degree coil , because peak is much sharper and , if you look spectral analysis you see another rising at much higher frequency

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8434 on: November 08, 2011, 12:55:54 AM »
How i understand ans see stevep and others push peoples far away back from real principle of the device! Wry clever and you are still believe....

Why you not take for real what Tariel say? why nobody see at linde's device which Tariel shows at end of green box video? why nobody look at electricity as water and gas?

where are engineering - Kid Garden!!! Return to earth and think with your own head...!!!


I'm Disappointed

What is the total lose?
1 ferrite core from old TV the best 90 degrees deflection yoke.
we did not try any other one so far. $20
1 set of wires... used one... no cost.
2 capacitors variable.. with large gap  up to $100 together.. take out every  second plate to enlarge gaps.You will need them for other experiments anyhow 

2 generators you can make them $10 each or buy them ready to use. You will need them for other experiments anyhow.
remember  advice of members about generators.

1 flyback from old TV  no diodes in it molded to plastic.!!

ANY OTHER  TK EXPERIMENTS WILL UTILIZE ALL OF THAT STAFF.

SO WHAT IS THE LOSE?

N O N E !!!!!!!!!!

And cosmoLV can you tell us what TK said?


there are  two concepts to try both successful.One is TK based or Smith if you wish...  They can always switch to second one...
So it there is any doubts in your mind Sir how can you explain them?
But do not answer with question for our questions...
FACTS Please !!!!!!!!

Wesley

oscilloscope? $100 used one.
spectrum analyzer $450 old HP or get computer driven.
You  need them for any experiments if you wish.. But when team help each other new methods will be developed.
 

 




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8435 on: November 08, 2011, 12:58:54 AM »
in Wesley device there is NO circuit RESONANCE when he measures using network analyser,  there is just ferroresonce,

Why do you think that this is ferroresonance phenomenon and not a fundamental resonance frequency of a shorted Transmission Line with an unusual core?
Note: IMHO the Transverse Coil acts more like a shorted Transmission Line than a lumped LC Resonator.

Could you point me to the URL where Wesley measures the bare Transverse Coil with a network analyzer, please?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8436 on: November 08, 2011, 01:08:13 AM »
It does not matter how we call it

Oh well, I suppose you are right - it does not matter if we call this a ferroresonant effect at this point. It's better not to call it anything, in order to avoid hasty conclusions.

What's important is that the measurement is made with the 50turn Longitudinal Coil as INPUT and the Transverse Coil as OUTPUT

Do you agree T-1000 and Stivep ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8437 on: November 08, 2011, 01:09:42 AM »
Why do you think that this is ferroresonance phenomenon and not a fundamental resonance frequency of a shorted Transmission Line with an unusual core?
Note: IMHO the Transverse Coil acts more like a shorted Transmission Line than a lumped LC Resonator.

Could you point me to the URL where Wesley measures the bare Transverse Coil with a network analyzer, please?
Yes I can but everyone case is different.
Every ferrite  from deflection yoke is different.
I need little rest.
While we work on next  step you friends are going to the fist one.. that is good
I'm handling with Arunas all of the   answers. every other place as well.
Please understand.
This thing is not going to die.. it is in public domain.
And it will be more thanks to you  guys...
You do not realize how many important  knowledge you posting here
How many triggering thoughts you creating.

THIS IS NOT A TALK  WITH GURU AND  PUBLIC..
NOT EVEN FOR THE MOMENT I'M LEARNING TOO.
THAT IS YOU WHO MAKE IT HAPPENED NOT US..
LITTLE SPARK CREATE FIRE... AND WHAT IS THE ENERGY OF FIRE COMPERING TO SPARK?
THINK ABOUT IT.........


Wesley


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8438 on: November 08, 2011, 01:15:53 AM »
Why you not take for real what Tariel say?

Please tell us what Tariel said....

DonL



Watch video, read forums, i and others, SR, already say everything. i just try to push on the way, not other info will be given. I not let it happen before release this in countries outside USA, UK. This is not religion, nationality or other reason... There are three countries who run the Global world and i think stivep know this very well...

Be patient, it not be released before it need to be! It will come in right time and in right way, this is not a toy! And if we want to change our lives we need to be clever to bypass the globalisation of our lives. if we want to make a change (real change) we need to be smart and calculate steps 100 years ahead. Check 50 times before release it, check the situation and traffic who looking at your "Free Energy" sites i give 100% that it will be General Electric and other Big companies who take it over control in seconds.

i already tested this - how? you know my way... i have years of teaching psychology, more than 20 years of esoteric experience, remote weaving and thanks to this! But they who run this workld – has this too and they can predict almost all your steps if you go vhere you don't need to go. Remember person in airplain who meet stevep and all checkings in airport. If you want to win, you need to be strong phisicly or have esoteric sense on this! This is not a toystory.
I have no bad thought, i just want to change something as you, you and you - but we need do this clever! They who run this word are so smart that we even not imagine! You think we who are not in world running business know how they work? No, we not and we not so smart – They run all world, billions of peoples and this is serious, but we have Green weapon of Free Energy, but this is not Enough to win this game.

Please understand and good lock, and see you at the End ;)

This is the most important message i ever writed, you need to take it serious!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8439 on: November 08, 2011, 01:38:18 AM »

oscilloscope? $100 used one.
spectrum analyzer $450 old HP or get computer driven.
You  need them for any experiments if you wish.. But when team help each other new methods will be developed.
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It not help and even you not do anything with scope – scopes and spectrum analysers are made to meet standarts!
for Free Energy they cost is "0" it mean Nothing!

they will be need later, to do improvements, but they not help to make device – i don't have scope, tariel don't have it and SR also don't have scope. Tesla also don't have a scope, By the way... So, if you have 1 or 10 scopes, 20 spectrum analysers – it not mean that you understand the principle of Nature, because this is the way how device are working.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8440 on: November 08, 2011, 01:47:06 AM »
Hi Wesley, you seem very genuine.

I have a Yoke, it is less than 90 degrees from an older 21" tv.
I understand the wire isn't too critical, so I have wire.
I have a variable capacitor, but I do not know where it goes in the circuit.

I have a function generator although I do not know what is required regarding syncing if anything, I am told a 1 or 2 turn coil is used somehow but no idea how and I am out of ideas.

I am close to building this and would really LOVE to, but I don't want to burden this list with failures to replicate as too many of those and people stop trying.

So can you PLEASE give a complete circuit diagram and a parts list.

We know the function generator used in the video but not how to connect it or how it is syncing if it even needs to.

And the shield circuit (employing a variable cap???) is a mystery.

Just a few details keeping many of us from the elation we will experience on getting success!

I have been searching for over-unity for close to 15 years, if you can show me how to get it I will be EXTREMELY happy and grateful.

PLEASE RESPOND!

If there are detailed diagrams and parts lists coming and I just need to wait please say so.

It is frustrating being so close, please fill us in on the rest.

John Berry

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8442 on: November 08, 2011, 02:12:38 AM »




Be patient, it not be released before it need to be! It will come in right time and in right way, this is not a toy!

Hey Cozmo

You have said this before.

Most will probably take what you are saying with a grain of salt, without explanation.  ;]

Even Tesla said(early 1900s)in an interview on free energy, There is no better time than now, as he spoke of the dependence on energy back then.  Was Tesla wrong, as you believe others here are?  ;]

It will be very hard to get others to heed your warnings, without clear explanation.  ;]

Mags

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8443 on: November 08, 2011, 02:31:38 AM »
Please just stop. We are doing our best so there is little to criticize when people are doing their best. It is better then folding our hands and watching TV all day long.

@ALL

Here is my strategy for the copper strip (CS). I will use the 1/2" cut. What I did not want is loose wires so I turned the CS from the inside to the outside in a continuous method so this should provide some level of HV integrity.

Now before I wind the coils I need to re-confirm one thing.

Regarding the secondary bifilar wind of 150 turns.

a) Is it 75 turns of each as bifilar for a total of 150 turns or
b) Is it 150 turns of each as bifilar for a total of 300 turns?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8444 on: November 08, 2011, 03:06:06 AM »
Hey Cozmo

You have said this before.

Most will probably take what you are saying with a grain of salt, without explanation.  ;]

Even Tesla said(early 1900s)in an interview on free energy, There is no better time than now, as he spoke of the dependence on energy back then.  Was Tesla wrong, as you believe others here are?  ;]

It will be very hard to get others to heed your warnings, without clear explanation.  ;]

Mags

When Tesla speak in that time in that place, yes it will be the right moment, but sometimes is too late. he wait too long and lost his chance. Tesla has a great esotheric sense and he know when and why.
Tesla in his notebook say that he are wrong some times http://www.umbrellatech.lv/downloads-3/files/Mystery%20of%20the%20inventor_ENG.pdf

We are humans, we connot always be right – we have own mistakes. See how many mistakes we are maked over history? This is not bad, we teach from this, and Tesla know also – humans need to learn something. If he wanted to share Free Energy, he will give schematics, but he clearly say: "Humans are not ready for it now, but this is only mater of time when it come out"

This is clear explanation? or i need to make more clear? you can do what you like, my message is for those who like to understand, this is not for all, who don't like my posts – no problem, you can ignore.
But take in mind one thing, after all you will be need to accept what i said, because this is true – like it or not.

 

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