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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12295611 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8400 on: November 07, 2011, 03:48:19 PM »
i have experimented, things are happening the exact way aidas, arunas, wesley say, no theories will make your device work!  DO IT and you will know!!!
everything has to be adjusted piece by piece, you will not suceed with a fixed thing.... 

trust it, the phenomenon is not explained in conventional science, and media will still try to supress it although it can be reached by anyone this time.
All physics books needs either adding more info or completely rewriting... :o

@energia9,

Did you implement feedback to your signal source as T-1000 mentioned earlier?

@Everyone else,

I believe I understand how what needs to be done in regards to syncing the generators with the 1-2 turn winding. However, on a practical note, how does one convert the low voltage, high current signal from the one-turn winding into something that would be comparable with the signal generator's sync input?

@verpies,

Yep, I knew you had to be a professor (or EE at least). I'm an EE student myself and definitely appreciate your objectivity and clarity of speech  :).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8401 on: November 07, 2011, 03:53:57 PM »
Did you try pinging the copper plates with a narrow sharp rectangular pulse?
They plates should "ring" even without a capacitor in parallel, after a rapidly falling edge of the stimulating pulse.

Ideally, the stimulating pulse should be of high voltage and with fast fall time.

The "ringing" should be sensed on a separate unloaded winding hooked up to an oscilloscope probe.
I would suppose that the short primary winding would do nicely for this purpose.

Expect this "ringing frequency to be in the MHz range and expect it to change after the secondary winding is loaded (loading allows a meaningful current to develop in the secondary and exert its effect on the resonance). Secondary does not have to exist for this test.

I think you are wrong

maybe only exact way to see resonance on 90 degree coil is scoping that coil , while pulsing the same coil  ?
Pulsing copper sheet coil and scoping it after pulse goes away?
Its not the same if we pulse classic coil thats at 90 degree to copper shield coil



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8402 on: November 07, 2011, 03:56:35 PM »
We are dealing with coil under influence of external factors. The impedance is not constant there, especially on excited ferrite core.. :)

With no feedback you will have problem on synchronization between different frequencies.

Sine wave , does it have offset ? or it is symmetrical to zero ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8403 on: November 07, 2011, 04:00:40 PM »
i have experimented, things are happening the exact way aidas, arunas, wesley say, no theories will make your device work!  DO IT and you will know!!!
everything has to be adjusted piece by piece, you will not suceed with a fixed thing.... 

trust it, the phenomenon is not explained in conventional science, and media will still try to supress it although it can be reached by anyone this time.
All physics books needs either adding more info or completely rewriting... :o

He he , if you or stivep or T-1000 do not explain what you sync to what we cant use sinctronisation , we dont know what to syncronise with what ...

Its NOT theory its real thing if you want to drive any coil with "sync"

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8404 on: November 07, 2011, 04:03:19 PM »
@energia9,

Did you implement feedback to your signal source as T-1000 mentioned earlier?

@Everyone else,

I believe I understand how what needs to be done in regards to syncing the generators with the 1-2 turn winding. However, on a practical note, how does one convert the low voltage, high current signal from the one-turn winding into something that would be comparable with the signal generator's sync input?

@verpies,

Yep, I knew you had to be a professor (or EE at least). I'm an EE student myself and definitely appreciate your objectivity and clarity of speech  :).

- Jason O

SG input impedance is maybe 10 Mohm, thre is no current, if voltage level is enough it has to work(regarding SG like device itself)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8404 on: November 07, 2011, 04:03:19 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8405 on: November 07, 2011, 04:19:30 PM »
Hi:

After reading again the last 20 pages of the thread I see that some people are asking how to sync the generators without any clear answer given. The Velleman generators used on the video have no sync input so I cant see a way to do it with those generators. All the screen captures shown are related to these generator models that work as standalone without sync capabilities. Someone can explain this?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8406 on: November 07, 2011, 04:27:49 PM »
@all

I am planning to cut a copper strip about 1" wide and slip it into a shrink tubing and heat it up to have a nice tight fit to insulate it from direct core and wire contact, since this is the HV side and can quickly arch across open areas and result in premature breakdown. HV is serious business.

Also, and foremost I will wind the 50 turns with 1 center tap and the 150 turns coils with taps at 37, 75 and 112 turns to give it some more flexibility for future use. lol

@Mannix

I don't know but I have a funny feeling that if you are putting the 50Hz on the 15 turns, maybe try to put it on the 50 turns and the higher frequency on the 15 turns. This may be better for your yoke type/material. In my first tests with the standard yoke, this was best resulting output since I tried it both ways. I don't know why it is being done in reverse but given that the copper strip will receive HV and create a rather strong effect on the half yoke, trying to move the field at 50HZ may be difficult on the 15 turns since these are very few turns that are on the outermost layer of the primary coils and it will be hard for it to create a movement effect. Try the 50Hz on the 50 turns that is against the core. The 380hz (or whatever  higher frequency) signal on the 15 turns is enough because it will impress itself all over the core at such higher frequencies. But anyways, I will test it both ways when I am ready.

I have to say that if @otto was alive today he would have been so happy to see guys pulsing a yoke with multiple frequencies. This was the basis of his works for so long.

Oh, remember when we were at TPU123. Well I have saved most of the site before it went off line. The second image is a yoke coil I had built in June of 2008 following @ottos' bench tests. (NOTE: DO NOT REPLICATE THE YOKE COIL SHOWN BELOW - THIS IS JUST SHOWN FOR NOSTALGIA.)

@ALL AGAIN

If any of you have a good result, STOP, PLEASE do not change anything and document and post it ASAP.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8407 on: November 07, 2011, 05:09:47 PM »
I think you are wrong
maybe only exact way to see resonance on 90 degree coil is scoping that coil , while pulsing the same coil  ?
Pulsing copper sheet coil and scoping it after pulse goes away?
Its not the same if we pulse classic coil thats at 90 degree to copper shield coil

Yes, I can see now that my words have been ambiguous.
I meant exactly what you wrote: "Pulsing copper sheet coil and scoping it after pulse goes away"

Now, this "scoping" can be done in several ways:
1) Scoping the 1turn Transverse Coil ( the "copper shield" coil) directly.
2) Scoping the 15turn Primary Coil (classic coil at 90deg.) wound over the Transverse Coil
3) Scoping the 50turn Primary Coil (classic coil at 90deg.) wound over the Transverse Coil

In my last message to you, I meant pt.2 because it is safer for the scope when HV is used to ping the Transverse Coil.

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For pure measurements the primary coils should not be loaded with anything more than scope probes.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8408 on: November 07, 2011, 06:13:12 PM »
I have to say something about sync! I had asked about this matter several times but i have answer from nobody....BUT I asked from Tiger from Kayakstan (this shematics is originally invented by him) he aswered and I can clear this Q! 

Look!
This is IMPORTANT!!!!

FQ 50 HZ ( it is vary betwen 48-52 Hz) is master! Fq of 382 Khz is slave FQ!

Dear Tiger! You great men who would save as from Oil monsters!!!!
God Bless You!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8409 on: November 07, 2011, 06:33:08 PM »
here is my ring not complete jet but.... tomorrow it would!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8410 on: November 07, 2011, 07:14:06 PM »
FQ 50 HZ ( it is vary betwen 48-52 Hz) is master! Fq of 382 Khz is slave FQ!

I expected the LF (~50Hz) to be the slave frequency, and the FRF to be the master frequency because FRF comes from the ferrite material and LF is artificially excited by a signal generator.

This statement is in conflict with the whole measurement procedure outlined by T-100 and Stivep, from which it is apparent that the master frequency originates with the ferrite.

THE FREQUENCIES ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME as properties of ferrite are not the same.
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Do not count on fixed frequencies..  The whole process is not that easy as it looks like.
1. Connect  50 winds  to Vector Network Analyzer input
2. Connect  (ekran) shield / cooper strip winding  to output.
3. Analyze  if you see peak on 1.2Mhz to 1.8 Mhz
4. Then connect  generator with square or  ramp at frequency of peak say 1.3 MHz to    (ekran) shield / copper strip then tune it left right to maximum amplitude of 50 winds ( OSCILLOSCOPE AT OUTPUT)
5. than read the frequency and voltage on 50 winds ( OSCILLOSCOPE AT OUTPUT)
6. than connect generator to 50winds with frequency of readout
ALL OF THE STEPS SHOULD BE DONE  WITH ONE GENERATOR ONLY!!! AT THE TIME..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8411 on: November 07, 2011, 08:00:48 PM »
To Verpies!

 Here are no conflicts because nobody knows a Theory about this ubnormalous ferrite reactor from Tiger!

Tiger said that he already works with this devices more that 1 year and tryed to explain - how to replicate but only Arunas and some more persons got success....but nobody know Theory...because we havent one!



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8412 on: November 07, 2011, 08:11:12 PM »
Ok Ganzha, THANKS for this important information, (and thanks to Tyger,too).

But Verpies have done a good question.
In procedure explain by Arunas, first, find BRF....
then, find FRF...
and at last, tune 15 turns coil with about 50 Hz.

BUT! I think that Tyger tell us to use 50 Hz as master (to lock FRF and BFR, so this frequenxy MUST be related in "integer" number, in one post, somebody talk about this ratio...but I don't find now)....then,
we can make a SG with this characteristics?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8413 on: November 07, 2011, 08:26:17 PM »
Hello Everyone,

Regarding the bifilar secondary output winding, did Wesley, T-1000, (or Tiger) give any indications on the method of winding the coils?

To be more specific, if the total number of turns is 150, does that mean we wind coil of 75 turns for the first layer and then, on top of that, wind another layer of 75 turns for the second winding (and then connect as shown in the diagram)

OR

do we take the two wires together and wind them on the core at the same time (essentially interleaving them). Or does this not matter?

I'm planning to get some wire today to begin winding but wanted to be clear on this detail first.

Thanks,
Jason O

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8414 on: November 07, 2011, 08:51:45 PM »
Yes, I can see now that my words have been ambiguous.
I meant exactly what you wrote: "Pulsing copper sheet coil and scoping it after pulse goes away"

Now, this "scoping" can be done in several ways:
1) Scoping the 1turn Transverse Coil ( the "copper shield" coil) directly.
2) Scoping the 15turn Primary Coil (classic coil at 90deg.) wound over the Transverse Coil
3) Scoping the 50turn Primary Coil (classic coil at 90deg.) wound over the Transverse Coil

In my last message to you, I meant pt.2 because it is safer for the scope when HV is used to ping the Transverse Coil.

P.S.
For pure measurements the primary coils should not be loaded with anything more than scope probes.

This is againg confusing :

If we scope copper sheet coil alone: why we need to add capacitor to sheet coil in operation ?

MAYBE this : we pulse 50 turn coil and scope sheet coil ,we find ferro resonance frequency, than we put capacitor to sheet coil and pulse and scope sheet coil until we get LC that is equals first frequency we got ..

And most important thing , I am still waiting for answer
Velleman function generator has no input sync signal, how T-1000 managet to sync using that generator ?

 

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