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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12648346 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8370 on: November 07, 2011, 02:27:42 AM »
Question 6: So am I correct in summing the device as so:
A normal function generator is directly connected to a 50 turn coil and inputs a high frequency 50% duty cycle pulsed DC at over 300khz, nothing else is connected to this circuit.

You did not mention it is a rectangular waveform.  I am not sure if it is DC or AC.
There might be a 1turn feedback winding connected to the HF circuit. (50 turns).  There was a discussion about it several pages ago.

A second normal function generator (operating independently of the first) is directly connected to a 15 turn coil, this is set to about 50hz sine wave.

Yes, it is a sine wave, but we are not sure if it is a sinewave riding on a DC offset, or if it is perfectly symmetrical AC waveform.

There is a shield/braid/plate etc that can be made of various materials that was added so that it would work without needing body capacitance. <This is a guess
This is not electrically connected to anything unless you want to ramp up the power with the optional flyback option. (that will destroy the ferrite in time)

The Braid circuit is not optional. As a matter of fact I think it is the key circuit.
It must be connected and there must be current flowing through it, either from a HV transformer or from a parallel capacitor forming an LC resonator..

The braid/shield is in 2 pieces an inner and an outer, connected at one end to each other by a wire.

Yes, it can be in two pieces connected by a wire or in one piece (looped outside of the air gap).
The Braid is electrically insulated from the ferrite by plastic insulation tape.

The only point left to mention is that so far only one type of Russian made yoke has been used successfully and it has a 90 degree angle. (I hope this is not so and other different CRT yokes have proven successful!)

Yes. Precisely the Yoke ferrite is from a CRT that has a 90deg electron deflection angle.
It is very likely that this ferrite is a very special material, that e.g. changes magnetic permeability in response to the E-field of the HV Discharge. This effect has been observed by Konrad and Brudny in that IEEE article, that I had cited before, but only in few ferrite compositions.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8371 on: November 07, 2011, 02:57:09 AM »
Will try to make some hints in single post for you guys:

However I have not yet found where to buy solid core wire with a plastic coating which is what I assume is used?
Should I still try anyway with either multi-strand or solid enamel coated wire?
It does not matter. Also if you make multi-strand insulated wire between strands, it will make stronger magnetic fields.

Question 2, what is the winding direction on the 2 primary coils? (unless it has been tried both ways and makes no difference)

And with the output coil, Do you wind the 2 wire together or in opposite directions like a caduceus coil? (that would explain why it doesn't feed-back into the primary and kill the gen.)
Clock wise, you can try different directions when you get first one running.
Question 3, So if I want about 150w output I don't have the braid connected to anything? And no flyback is used?
We used copper plates (sorry, but Wesley video made some confusion): http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/pic2011-Oct-26_Wed_15-50-04_00006.jpg
One end is shorted by wire another end goes to variable capacitor tuned into ferro-resonant frequency. The scalar waves are induced on plates all the time.
Question 4, The braid does not pass between the core halves but a wire connects the inner and outer I assume? (or is the Braid in one piece?)
It does not. We have connection over bottom of TV deflection yoke.
Also see copper plates diameter on picture in previous question. My guess it should be not wider than 1/4 of deflection yoke heigh (not confirmed)
Question 5, I think there is much confusion and miscommunication about the 2 imputs along with plenty of unknowns so this question is perhaps the most important and is in 2 pieces:

5a: I have this function generator: http://www.amazon.com/Function-Generator-RSR-MHz-Sweep/dp/B0007ZGXCC/ref=pd_sbs_hi_3  and I will need to source another for the 50hz, for arguments sake let's say I buy another (just to keep it simple) would you expect that by directly connecting the output of each gen to their respective 50 and 15 turn coils I would be able to replicate the effect without any modification to the function generators or addition of any other circuitry?

5b: Please explain everything that has been used successfully to power the high and low frequency primaries, including any required (or awfully unseful) circuitry and the brand & model of the function gen. and details of the generated the waveforms. It looks like in the video 2 function generators are used, great if I wanted to buy them where would I go?
5a) Should do but you need 1-2 turns feedback coils for each generator for phase lock.
5b) http://www.vellemanusa.com/products/view/?country=us&lang=enu&id=523616
The 50 turns coil resonant frequency has sine wave out and square wave in.
The 15 turns coil has 50Hz(+/- few hertz after fine tuning) sine wave in. It is main transformer action frequency.
Question 6: So am I correct in summing the device as so:
A normal function generator is directly connected to a 50 turn coil and inputs a high frequency 50% duty cycle pulsed DC at over 300khz, nothing else is connected to this circuit.
A second normal function generator (operating independently of the first) is directly connected to a 15 turn coil, this is set to about 50hz sine wave.
These coils are wound of solid 18AWG (or is it 18SWG?) solid core plastic coated wire. <I am most unsure about this point
There is a shield/braid/plate etc that can be made of various materials that was added so that it would work without needing body capacitance. <This is a guess
This is not electrically connected to anything unless you want to ramp up the power with the optional flyback option. (that will destroy the ferrite in time)
The braid/shield is in 2 pieces an inner and outer connected at one end to each other by a wire.
The bifilar coil is wound together and connected so that the magnetic field generated by the 2 windings is in agreement as is the voltage induced, this is connected to a single halogen 150w bulb only. (although adding capacitors across the bulb may be desirable but not required, and capacitors can likely be added to all 3 coils)
The only point left to mention is that so far only one type of Russian made yoke has been used successfully and it has a 90 degree angle. (I hope this is not so and other different CRT yokes have proven successful!)
And that the primary half of the Yoke is wrapped in electrical tape and there is paper separating the 2 halves.
The duty cycle was 39% in our experiment, 50% is way too much.
We tried different wires, no problem with them at all. The last time it was laminated copper wire :)
Will see if not Russian 90 degrees deflection yokes would work. The only 1 requirement for them is - they must have cone geometry for the sake of 1:1 replication.

I seem to have 1.6mhz and the 51 hz carrying 260khz like the picture but unless I pump  30 watts into the 50hz coil no light . It is very early and I was not able to tune the copper plate circuit  for any effect at this stage.

I see frequency multiplication and division using free resonant checking  that must be significant to be in faze somehow.

I wonder if we tune just with wire length ratios they might be more relative free resonant frequencies?


I am using another (slightly differnt)ferrite for version 1.00001
Did you manage to get http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/2_pirmine_iskociojimas_pjuklas__50_hercu.jpg on secondary coil?
If yes, tyou are close. :) The input might be different but not something too much in regards of output.
The phase lock is achieved by feedback 1-2 turn coils into generators.
The copper plates make LC tank circuit, oscillating freely on ferroresonant frequency.
The secondary coil has LC tank circuit, the resonant frequency match resonant frequency of 50 turns coil.

We tried caduceus coil as secondary first then gone to bifilar. The bifilar coil gave less volts but more amps.

That's all at a moment, hopefully this will shed a light in the dark!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8372 on: November 07, 2011, 04:27:36 AM »
T-1000

1: Can you please show the shield circuit with capacitor and everything diagramatically? and or in a photo perhaps too?

2: I do not understand and I am clear that no one else understands how you are using the one turn coil for phase lock.
Can you PLEASE draw a circuit diagram of that with the function gen. and coil (1 and 50 turn) showing a whole circuit?

BTW my plans if I am ever in possession of a Free Energy device is to film myself building one from scratch with a parts list, explination/comentary and everything as clear as possibly from parts (or aquisition of parts) to tuning and running it.
Then upload that to youtube (in parts) or similar.

If even one successful FE inventor had done this we would all have FE by now.

Ok, one more thought. I don't know where to get a copper sleeve but I would hope that I could just make one with copper wires forming the same shape. But perhaps they would need to be well connected.
T-1000 do you think this would work?

« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 07:27:57 AM by aether22 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8373 on: November 07, 2011, 05:37:46 AM »
Use the one coil turn as your trigger source.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8374 on: November 07, 2011, 06:12:52 AM »
Hi.
I have an instructional pdf (35.7MB) to build a simple machine for EDM - Electrical Discharge Machining; the only tool to cut/remove very hard metals (conductive materials) by spark erosion. I can share it if somebody is interrested.

Edit.
Ferrite, according to Wikipedia is usually NONCONDUCTIVE material. The best way to cut it is diamond cutter together with plenty of coolant/lubricant mixture; a wet tile cutter sounds good.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 04:15:51 PM by Qwert »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8375 on: November 07, 2011, 06:52:25 AM »

Sounds interesting Q...how clean can the device cut ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8376 on: November 07, 2011, 07:53:10 AM »
Sounds interesting Q...how clean can the device cut ?

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I never built one. You can estimate. If document quality is not good enough, I'm ready to re-scan it again, only it'll take some more time...

https://rapidshare.com/files/3977612894/edm_2011-09-10_00-19.pdf
« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 11:17:18 AM by Qwert »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8377 on: November 07, 2011, 08:18:13 AM »
I will replace the braid by cooper sheet trying to cover all yoke surface.

That might be too much capacitance compared to inductance.
If I were you, I would make the copper sheet cover only a part of the yoke's height. Preferably the cylindrical (non-conical) part that constitutes approximately 30% of the total yoke's height.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8378 on: November 07, 2011, 08:59:26 AM »
Have there been any additional videos made about the working device?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8379 on: November 07, 2011, 08:59:35 AM »
@T1000 Thanks yes I have the exact waveform in the picture.
What I dont have is any reaction at from the copper strips.

 
The copper strip which excites the ferroresonance is surely a most critical part along with the dilectric.

Then there is the unknown ferrite property.
It would be good if  somebody could find an  easy way to test for its "propper function" before wrapping everything thing up  with wire and tape.


Lots of variables here but a most promising device worth much more effort.

Thanks again every body

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8380 on: November 07, 2011, 09:24:23 AM »
It would be good if  somebody could find an  easy way to test for its "propper function" before wrapping everything thing up  with wire and tape.

Did you try pinging the copper plates with a narrow sharp rectangular pulse?
They plates should "ring" even without a capacitor in parallel, after a rapidly falling edge of the stimulating pulse.

Ideally, the stimulating pulse should be of high voltage and with fast fall time.

The "ringing" should be sensed on a separate unloaded winding hooked up to an oscilloscope probe.
I would suppose that the short primary winding would do nicely for this purpose.

Expect this "ringing frequency to be in the MHz range and expect it to change after the secondary winding is loaded (loading allows a meaningful current to develop in the secondary and exert its effect on the resonance). Secondary does not have to exist for this test.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8381 on: November 07, 2011, 09:46:21 AM »
Can any one post the information to replicate the device.

This thread is so long that I have no idea where the essential information can be.

Thanks.

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« Reply #8382 on: November 07, 2011, 10:20:10 AM »
Can any one post the information to replicate the device.

This thread is so long that I have no idea where the essential information can be.

Thanks.

At this point in time critical information regarding the function of an as yet unexplained one turn coil that acts as a feedback to perhaps keep frequencies phased locked somehow has not been given.

Therefore the apparently necessary info required to create this device is for some reason being kept making replication attempts an apparent waste of time.

Once this and info on the shield circuit is given replication attempts can begin in earnest.

Perhaps they are preferring to improve the device rather than share how it is currently done if that turns out to be less elegant than is possible.

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« Reply #8383 on: November 07, 2011, 10:53:38 AM »
@T1000 Thanks yes I have the exact waveform in the picture.
What I dont have is any reaction at from the copper strips.

Ok, now attach diodes for HV before coil to save your generators from overvoltage then try HV discharge on peaks of sine wave? If that will lower input power needed from generators, you are on right way. The copper plates surely should be pumped with ferrite resonant frequency after this if your capacitor is tuned right on them.

P.S> It might tbe a case for more input power drawn if ferrite exciting frequency of 50 turns coil is on wrong ferrite resonance harmonics.

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« Reply #8384 on: November 07, 2011, 11:17:54 AM »
@T1000
Thanks for the new detailed info. I don't understand how can you give 50Hz to 15 turn winding by the mentioned generator. At 50Hz its impedance is much lower than 50 Ohm, the USB based generator will not able to supply it with power. Another question is that there is no input on the USB generator, where are connected the mentioned 1 turn feedbacks? Thank You for your efforts again.

 

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