Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16504413 times)

DimaWari · « **Reply #7215 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:19:58 AM »

@xeno
Hmmm... Probably you were right.. SR said "Dead Magnetic Field" if I recall. And by using HV sparks you will be able to disable or reset the effect?
thanks xeno for the info...

Waves · « **Reply #7216 on:** September 10, 2011, 12:08:28 PM »

And Tesla said " dont let energy go to space". In caddeus coil is not magnetic field.

Jury1 · « **Reply #7217 on:** September 10, 2011, 02:27:32 PM »

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â€¦ " dont let energy go to space"

That's right! In the bifilar coil, greatest electric field, magnetic field is zero )))
IMHO Naudin uses the skin effect - GDP_Driver - sin(F=5,822KHz A30V)â€¦

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #7218 on:** September 10, 2011, 03:28:24 PM »

Quote from: DimaWari on September 10, 2011, 10:19:58 AM

@xeno
Hmmm... Probably you were right.. SR said "Dead Magnetic Field" if I recall. And by using HV sparks you will be able to disable or reset the effect?
thanks xeno for the info...

I think the sparks by themselves play no big role in the glassbox device, SR uses a continous spark-gap but also creates a tension around the caduceus coil with the HV winding.
As was observed acoustically, the glassbox device runs even with the sparks being very irregular. It is the high "tension" around the coil that seems to be important.
The primary if looked at as a capacitor gets charged with HV and then if the voltage is too high (set by the gap distance) it discharges like a safety spark gap.
This all makes perfect sense.

I have a hard time bringing the 3rd coil into the context however.
The fact that it is wound "normally" and around a pipe-like former leans towards
a magnetic coil that should inductively couple to "something" (whatever that is).

Another possibility is that this 3rd coil is being fed with an independent signal that he does not want to inductively couple to the horizontal coil. The placement to each other would be optimal for that.
The 3rd and the horizontal coil are anyway "coupled" through the load due to the 2 cables going to the load coming from these 2 coils.

EDIT: I forgot to consider all possibilities.
The 5 turn coil could very well be a so-called balun/RF choke.
Like here: http://k8ld-qrp.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-vertical-antenna.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RF-CHOKE-BALUN-160-6-meters-/170660393454
http://home.comcast.net/~ac9ts/pics/choke.jpg
http://ce3rkw.net23.net/30-40m_choke_balun.jpg

In that function it would not interact with the other coils like i hypothesized earlier.
It would also protect the transistors and associated circuit that it directly connects to at the rear of the glassbox from interference.
That would be also in keeping with the TK patent and seems to be its most likely function.

forest · « **Reply #7219 on:** September 10, 2011, 06:11:01 PM »

that black coil could be modulator coil to get required output frequency like 50Hz, would be important to trace all connections between coils !
overall setup looks very similiar to Don Smith method with clever modifications (Hendershot coil !) - that's interesting , if it works then Don Smith coil can be placed directly in the same place
very useful info . thanks
idea is now very very simple

forest · « **Reply #7220 on:** September 10, 2011, 06:17:04 PM »

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on September 10, 2011, 03:28:24 PM

I think the sparks by themselves play no big role in the glassbox device, SR uses a continous spark-gap but also creates a tension around the caduceus coil with the HV winding.
As was observed acoustically, the glassbox device runs even with the sparks being very irregular. It is the high "tension" around the coil that seems to be important.
The primary if looked at as a capacitor gets charged with HV and then if the voltage is too high (set by the gap distance) it discharges like a safety spark gap.
This all makes perfect sense.

I have a hard time bringing the 3rd coil into the context however.
The fact that it is wound "normally" and around a pipe-like former leans towards
a magnetic coil that should inductively couple to "something" (whatever that is).

Another possibility is that this 3rd coil is being fed with an independent signal that he does not want to inductively couple to the horizontal coil. The placement to each other would be optimal for that.
The 3rd and the horizontal coil are anyway "coupled" through the load due to the 2 cables going to the load coming from these 2 coils.

EDIT: I forgot to consider all possibilities.
The 5 turn coil could very well be a so-called balun/RF choke.
Like here: http://k8ld-qrp.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-vertical-antenna.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RF-CHOKE-BALUN-160-6-meters-/170660393454
http://home.comcast.net/~ac9ts/pics/choke.jpg
http://ce3rkw.net23.net/30-40m_choke_balun.jpg

In that function it would not interact with the other coils like i hypothesized earlier.
It would also protect the transistors and associated circuit that it directly connects to at the rear of the glassbox from interference.
That would be also in keeping with the TK patent and seems to be its most likely function.

yes, could be balun coil ! in that case I'm very curious how Kapanadze managed to produce 50Hz electronically ? Maybe using those two transistors as a DC-AC inverter ?

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #7221 on:** September 10, 2011, 06:26:27 PM »

Quote from: forest on September 10, 2011, 06:11:01 PM

that black coil could be modulator coil to get required output frequency like 50Hz, would be important to trace all connections between coils !
overall setup looks very similiar to Don Smith method with clever modifications (Hendershot coil !) - that's interesting , if it works then Don Smith coil can be placed directly in the same place
very useful info . thanks
idea is now very very simple

Just to avoid misunderstandings.
I referred to the caduceus coil also as Smith coil.
That is NOT Donald L. "MY devices are being mass-produced in russia" Smith.
It is Wilbert B. Smith.
Just wanted to point that out, as i personally don't see Don Smith coils being related to Kapanadze, but that's just my opinion.

You are absolutely right that knowing the exact coil interconnection is badly needed. Unfortunately the limited close-up footage and the limited angles make it hard to see everything especially inbetween the primary and secondary.
I got about 80% of the connections figured out and can post them, if needed.

Concerning the 50 Hz signal,
there is 2 heat sinks behind the balun and one end of the balun leads into the direction of them. Possibly you got the 2 push-pull transistors for the 50 Hz signal on there and that is being put into the balun and out into the load.
Most likely the signal from the transistors is around 10 Volt, so it could be that he uses a standard 12/220V isolation transformer somewhere hidden thereto get the signal into the 220 V range.
After all he starts the system up from a 9 Volt battery, so it is likely that that is also the Vcc of his 50Hz and HV-generating circuits.

Note that in the patent a capacitor is charged directly from the output and the "initial energy device". Maybe he uses a charge pump to charge a 250 Volt cap from the 9 volt battery. Not sure exactly how this is done, but i guess it can be done somehow.

That would save him the iso-transformer later.
Could also explain why he takes such determined cooling measures for the transistors, if they run actually at 220 V.
Another fact that would support this theory is the fact that TK used a commercial-type inverter from the 12 V car battery to feed the green box already with 220 Volt.

The other 2 3055-type transistors with the copper plate on top of them are most likely doing the HV part because you can see the blue cable from the primary leading very close to them.

crowclaw · « **Reply #7222 on:** September 10, 2011, 07:37:17 PM »

Quote from: wattsup on September 10, 2011, 01:22:35 AM

Does anyone know anything about high voltage full wave bridge rectifiers. I am trying to put a fwbr on the secondary of my feed supply MOT which is high voltage in order to work with high voltage DC with the diagram I made a few pages ago to follow the Tesla Ozone Patent replacing the rotary switch with a spark gap. Well so far with AC the there is no spark but the bulb which is off the primary of a second MOT is lighting up really well. I want to do this in DC because the patent is using DC and in the past I had made up to 1500 vdc with an input of 12vdc but that was way back and the output had no amperage, only reactive.

I think that with this set-up, I will arrive at the conclusion that the coils are not suitable for the task and from there can start experimenting with TK type coils but at least make the base method as Tesla. But first need to get the spark gap going.

wattsup

I tried a standard fwbr on the MOT secondary and nothing happens.

You could use four HV diodes from microwave ovens to make your bridge!

Waves · « **Reply #7223 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:11:04 PM »

"I think the sparks by themselves play no big role in the glassbox device". Wrong, sparks makes damped wave.

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #7224 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:17:18 PM »

Quote from: Waves on September 10, 2011, 08:11:04 PM

"I think the sparks by themselves play no big role in the glassbox device". Wrong, sparks makes damped wave.

Please elaborate on the signal-flow of the "damped wave" through the circuit into the load providing a constant 3 kW power with intervals in between the sparks of sometimes 5 seconds and longer near the end of the presentation attributing to the spark itself a significant role in the device.
It would be interesting to see how you see that working from your perspective.
regards

energia9 · « **Reply #7225 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:16:01 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTEsMOwp8pU&feature=related, everyone watch this! this can be our answer. open your ears very big at 1.43 in the video.... and our most important part is in 2.04 in the vid, this might explain why we keep seeing gas bottles near the device, answer is, superconductivity....

wattsup · « **Reply #7226 on:** September 10, 2011, 11:28:51 PM »

I just blew my inverter. lol

Shit, I think these off the shelf low cost inverters are not really made to take any type of beating. lol

I went to my local EE shop and they only had two HV diodes at $13 each. Man, expensive. I will find two more.

wattsup

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #7227 on:** September 10, 2011, 11:35:50 PM »

Quote from: wattsup on September 10, 2011, 11:28:51 PM

I just blew my inverter. lol

Shit, I think these off the shelf low cost inverters are not really made to take any type of beating. lol

I went to my local EE shop and they only had two HV diodes at $13 each. Man, expensive. I will find two more.

wattsup

For that price you could buy a few old microwaves from the dump and just scavenge the HV diodes in there. Might be cheaper, just a thought.

wattsup · « **Reply #7228 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:49:32 AM »

I will see for the diodes. For sure you need HV diodes in this otherwise you will always be in AC mode.

It's too bad about my inverter but for the time it was working, I realized that TK had to go through the same things. He did not wake up one morning and have his device all set in his brain. It took him time to work out many aspects of this. So you have a HV source and now what. In my set-up I finally got a spark and the bulb was lit. But as I made this next mistake, I realized why TK was using two switches on his green box unit.

The mistake I did was to put a toggle switch between my inverter and my first MOV primary. My inverter was on, so when I put the switch everything starts running and the load was already connected to my output so the total system was under stress. As soon as I then turned off the toggle switch, well I had three MOV coils in the circuit and the back spike just toasted my inverter. Inductors discharge when you disconnect. What I should have done is put a switch on the load as well. Turn off the load, then turn off the input power.

I am sure this had to happen to TK in the beginning for him to then put in two switches to start his systems. They are not really required to start the system but really required to safely stop the system otherwise he would have blown his own inverter. So at least I know a practical reason for having two switches. lol

I think my next tests will be right from the mains until I have a good handle on this.

wattsup

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