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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12058045 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7170 on: September 07, 2011, 08:37:55 PM »
Something more to make your brain smoke.
A secondary coil with a brass core ? :)
Certainly not the way to go if you build an "ordinary" transformer...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7171 on: September 07, 2011, 10:00:10 PM »
A Request to the deity with the petite posterior and the very large cranium
Please see here RE: Stan Myer New developement

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7172 on: September 08, 2011, 12:20:52 AM »
From what I understood from video that presentation was made in a hurry and Tariel explained that he had no time to use elecronic device and used spark gap which is generating hum/noise. That was clearly stated in the beginning of the video.

    Is that what he really said? that hum sounds more like a well taxed iron core transformer. Motors, when the shaft is stalled, make the same hum. This happens from the core being saturated and the iron/steel core material expanding and contracting.

    On another note, Tesla's radiant energy patent. Real interesting stuff in there. Looks like an arc can be used and the energy picked up to power a solenoid. Actually if the 'grid' on the Gray tube is insulated it would sound very similar to what Tesla shows in Fig. 3 of the patent.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7172 on: September 08, 2011, 12:20:52 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7173 on: September 08, 2011, 12:33:14 AM »
    Is that what he really said? that hum sounds more like a well taxed iron core transformer. Motors, when the shaft is stalled, make the same hum. This happens from the core being saturated and the iron/steel core material expanding and contracting.

    On another note, Tesla's radiant energy patent. Real interesting stuff in there. Looks like an arc can be used and the energy picked up to power a solenoid. Actually if the 'grid' on the Gray tube is insulated it would sound very similar to what Tesla shows in Fig. 3 of the patent.

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Agreed, magnetostriction-associated noise/hum sounds similar.
Question is what makes this hum sound if there is no iron core in there?
Even more remarkable is the fact that this hum completely vanishes after about 2 minutes. I repeatedly watched the video till the end and it really seems to be completly gone, just the tickering of the spark gap can be heard.
I can not explain that, except that it might be not related to magnetostriction
and it's intensity gradually fades out. When he starts up the device the noise
and hum is enormous, as if he actually has to level the power down to a reasonable,managable level.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7174 on: September 08, 2011, 01:10:23 AM »
Agreed, magnetostriction-associated noise/hum sounds similar.
Question is what makes this hum sound if there is no iron core in there?
Even more remarkable is the fact that this hum completely vanishes after about 2 minutes. I repeatedly watched the video till the end and it really seems to be completly gone, just the tickering of the spark gap can be heard.
I can not explain that, except that it might be not related to magnetostriction
and it's intensity gradually fades out. When he starts up the device the noise
and hum is enormous, as if he actually has to level the power down to a reasonable,managable level.

Tariel has stated that he uses iron and not ferrite. That came from a translation that a member here made. Personally I don't believe that we are looking at Tesla coils (loose coupled). This video does not have a loose coupling primary to secondary. I think people heard Tesla and rushed to assumption. Tesla had a few coils.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7175 on: September 08, 2011, 01:34:16 AM »
Tariel has stated that he uses iron and not ferrite. That came from a translation that a member here made. Personally I don't believe that we are looking at Tesla coils (loose coupled). This video does not have a loose coupling primary to secondary. I think people heard Tesla and rushed to assumption. Tesla had a few coils.

-Core

True, the coils in this device differ from the standard Tesla coils.
Tariel stated he would use iron (but related to what device?).
Yet at a first look no iron to be seen.
As i illustrated above the secondary seems to contain a golden metal like brass (gold is economically unlikely) and the so-called primary is nearly aircore with
an (probably) aluminum cylinder.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7176 on: September 08, 2011, 09:37:20 AM »
Primary is Tesla coil with iron pipe core, that's sure for me. Secondary at 90 degrees lying on bottom of box. Tariel stated it is not connected with primary which is interesting. There is also black cylinder device in the center which looks a bit like a big electrolytic capacitor from industrial inverter.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7177 on: September 08, 2011, 09:56:49 AM »
@Core, Hi I can verify that an arc/spark gap will power a solenoid, whilst playing TK I wired in a 100 volt railway solenoid I had on bench going  to use as choke- to my amazement it went wild and was variable with spark gap,But did not know what to do with it so put it on one side. Regards

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7178 on: September 08, 2011, 02:36:41 PM »
@Core, Hi I can verify that an arc/spark gap will power a solenoid, whilst playing TK I wired in a 100 volt railway solenoid I had on bench going  to use as choke- to my amazement it went wild and was variable with spark gap,But did not know what to do with it so put it on one side. Regards

   Tesla does say it will work but to what degree is unknown. I am going to throw some stuff together to see were it goes. Here is a pic of a basic setup I will try. What is interesting is that people throughout the years have gotten brief moments of miracles.

   Wouldn't it be some shit to find out that its actually the UV radiation, when focused from a spark gap, that is the source of OU? Most, if not all, keep there spark gap wide open. This allows the UV to spread in all direction. Maybe if its directed to a plate, as Tesla stated, you can use it as suitable energy?

   Worth a shot. It has all the ingredients that has been spoken about the last few years. TK did mention something about radiation. The Ultra small 'spark-gap', kodak flash circuit, Tesla circuit, strong earth ground....etc. Who knows.

-Core
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7178 on: September 08, 2011, 02:36:41 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7179 on: September 08, 2011, 04:00:48 PM »
@core Interesting, is that why when I play with spark gap with shiny pliers or chrome plated screw driver I get more out put than just leaving alone. I was wondering only last night about spark gap and left circuit cursing as to why messing across gap by hand increased my output, I have been using car spark plugs and regardless of gap some give almost no output and then other go wild. I now have favourite ones to use,an old champion type seems to give me best results.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7180 on: September 08, 2011, 04:31:49 PM »
Primary is Tesla coil with iron pipe core, that's sure for me. Secondary at 90 degrees lying on bottom of box. Tariel stated it is not connected with primary which is interesting. There is also black cylinder device in the center which looks a bit like a big electrolytic capacitor from industrial inverter.

The black cylinder has thick wire wound around it and is hollow.
EDIT: Forest might refer to the other cylinder right at the glass wall.
That's actually the only thing in there, would the tube/pipe in the middle be out of iron that exhibits enough mass to produce the hum.
The primary "Inside" is thin like sheets, less like a pipe.
It might be no magnetic effect that TK uses it for, note the electrical connection to that sheet/pipe .
Also i have a hard time to actually recognize any windings/wire on the primary.
There is something that looks like copper sheet, maybe like a single turn winding?
Or is it a tubular capacitor made out of copper and aluminum (only my interpretation)? And in case it has windings, i smell negative inductance on that thing )
« Last Edit: September 08, 2011, 10:25:42 PM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7181 on: September 08, 2011, 04:34:42 PM »

It`s interesting:

translate from 22min 00sec:

(guests=GS, Kapa=TK)

TK22.00: when we will repair the electronic starter, the spark will not be here. Also not to be this noise,
listen- it is almost unheard now, because device is entering normal mode. But small noise you can hear, if you get closer.
GS22.20: I hear small noise from the rear of the box.
TK22.25: Because here is a very big load.

(At 22.30 unexpectedly the spark began to clicked very often)

TK22.31: it starts to regulate itself.
GS22.33: there is something wrong!!
TK22.34: no no, nothing wrong!
GS22.35: look - it is a smoke from the bottom!
TK22.44: let's we give it a rest
GS22.45: overheated...
TK23.01: i will check it all
GS23.12: maybe it is so, because your fan was off..
TK23.12: the fan should not work until the temperature will not increase (thermostat)



another interesting moments:

TK05.18: ..and there, from the third coil we take so many elecricity, how we need.
Really i don't want to say this, but i will say that the main effect is there.

(Tariel draws attention to the fact that the coils should be located so, and not the other way,
because the interaction of electromagnetic fields is needed.)



At the 10.10 Tariel suggests that if he put the battery other way round - device must stopped.
But it did not happen  ;D



From the 11.46 TK tells the guests about Tesla's electrocar, and say that probably such box
was used by Tesla installed under the seat.



One of the guests ask TK "What happens if right now we tear the grounding?"
TK19.29: once it was so, my assistant did it. Only the electromagnet was burned, and
nothing more.

(aha! electomagnet is used inside! but for what? hmm..)


At the 19.45 talk about the kapagen's stability with the working load. It can be low
and high. But at the traditional power plant, disappearance of the load is a accident situation.


Inside the box we can see many printed circuit boards. Some users at the russian forums
(who repaired old USSR TV) identified vertical unit,HV, etc... This PCB don't look as altered
or as resoldered. For this reason many people assume that this is a usual camouflage.

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« Reply #7182 on: September 08, 2011, 04:46:35 PM »
@chooseusername:

Thanks for the translation. I wonder how you understand TK lol,
he speaks with weird accent.

Yeah half the stuff in there is TV trash.
The upside down board right in the middle of it probably has the inverter circuits on it.

I like the expression "normal mode" haha.

So the third coil with the thick black wire is the actual output coil as it seems he wants to indicate. At least explains the wire diameter choice.
You can track back one of the wires that exit the glassbox to the load right to
that 3rd coil. The other exit wire comes off the end of the big coil. Remarkable hehe.
So there is actually 2 output coils if you think about it (if that is a 2-phase signal that he puts out to the lamps at all).


About there being an electromagnet, well any coil is technically an
electromagnet.

Well and this noise explanation is weird, because the spark gap's sound
is clearly identifyable. But he pointed also out that the noise fades away.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7183 on: September 08, 2011, 05:19:55 PM »
The primary coil is possibly wound with flat copper sheets.
But that is a speculation, the close-ups are still not too revealing
about that. At least you can't see the typical wire relief poking through
the insulating tape.
So if there is windings on there at all, it could be "flat wires".
This would strongly indicate capacitive effects being used.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7184 on: September 08, 2011, 05:21:22 PM »
flat copper sheets i see here too!

i forgot about last news: Tariel's wife left him, he is still ill, and his friends (or assistants) have no more contact with him. Giya (our connecting link with TK) does not appear more in Skype :'( It is so already abt. 4months(((. I think there is something strange (( Seems this secret will die with him

 

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