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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16408289 times)

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7155 on: September 05, 2011, 07:26:43 PM »
This is the basic principle on which I work. I try to sync the primary and secondary. Synchronization should be 50Hz. Or 220V source set in the oscillation frequency of the primary (HV), and then back down to 50Hz.

?!?!Or 220V is DC?!?!
Tesla use DC in secundary circuit. (Second pictures). http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes08.htm

@Shokac

Seems to me that in your diagram showing the TK coil, you have one diode after the HV. If the HV is AC, then that diode will be cutting out half of the signal. So that is maybe wasting half the drive energy right there. Or is the HV rectified?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7156 on: September 05, 2011, 07:47:37 PM »
Yes I know. However, Kapanadze said that the principle is very simple and should be considered in a simple manner.

There is no special electronics.
Probably, Kapanadze said, a large capacitor.

Now, how to connect it. Great thoughts on the HV (6,000 V, 4uF) or LV (220 - 450V, 2000uF)

Hmm, but it is actually simple. Compare it to a motherboard layout )
Look in his patent.
First frequency adjuster,  frequency stabilizer, second frequency adjuster and so forth.
This does require electronics.
And they are present in all his demonstrated devices.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7157 on: September 05, 2011, 08:13:41 PM »
Hmm, but it is actually simple. Compare it to a motherboard layout )
Look in his patent.
First frequency adjuster,  frequency stabilizer, second frequency adjuster and so forth.
This does require electronics.
And they are present in all his demonstrated devices.

No, electronics use for make HV, and for make inverter. (Device without inverter or 220V)

Filter = Condenser
First frequency adjuster = Spark gap
Frequency stabilizer = RC circuit (T=RC)
Second frequency adjuster= Adjustable Spark gap (Green box)

Think simple!



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7158 on: September 05, 2011, 08:18:47 PM »
@Shokac

Or is the HV rectified?

wattsup

Good idea!!

Maybe need full bridge rectifier in HV side. And full bridge recitifier in LV (220V) side. After put current in circuit make frequency.

I have to try it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7159 on: September 05, 2011, 08:46:09 PM »
Read this
http://www.capturedlightning.org/hot-streamer/TeslaCoils/MyPapers/spark1/sparkgap.html

Pay attention to the current

... The power of these bursts is remarkable. Early testing has shown that, even at low voltage levels, these bursts may reach many hundreds of amps at the ~50MHz frequency. By far the most powerful burst is the very first one.

Typical scope photos often show this as a vertical line that occurs just at the beginning of conduction. My equipment has not been able to measure the level of this spike with great accuracy but it appears to be around 400 amps which is remarkable considering the relatively low 2000 volt spark gap setting. ...



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7160 on: September 05, 2011, 09:07:08 PM »
No, electronics use for make HV, and for make inverter. (Device without inverter or 220V)

Filter = Condenser
First frequency adjuster = Spark gap
Frequency stabilizer = RC circuit (T=RC)
Second frequency adjuster= Adjustable Spark gap (Green box)

Think simple!

Okay then, good luck shifting the phase and synchronizing the signals with the simple components )

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7161 on: September 06, 2011, 01:34:04 AM »
Read this
http://www.capturedlightning.org/hot-streamer/TeslaCoils/MyPapers/spark1/sparkgap.html

Pay attention to the current

... The power of these bursts is remarkable. Early testing has shown that, even at low voltage levels, these bursts may reach many hundreds of amps at the ~50MHz frequency. By far the most powerful burst is the very first one.

Typical scope photos often show this as a vertical line that occurs just at the beginning of conduction. My equipment has not been able to measure the level of this spike with great accuracy but it appears to be around 400 amps which is remarkable considering the relatively low 2000 volt spark gap setting. ...

Shocac my friend...
this what is below is for you attention!!!
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7162 on: September 06, 2011, 01:37:02 AM »
This is the basic principle on which I work. I try to sync the primary and secondary. Synchronization should be 50Hz. Or 220V source set in the oscillation frequency of the primary (HV), and then back down to 50Hz.

?!?!Or 220V is DC?!?!
Tesla use DC in secundary circuit. (Second pictures). http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes08.htm

:)     !!!  :) desni

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7163 on: September 06, 2011, 02:17:35 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7164 on: September 06, 2011, 02:54:00 PM »
Cool, that is indeed a much longer version.
Thanks for the link !
Gives some good views on the glassbox that contains "simple" components and no electronics ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7165 on: September 06, 2011, 10:05:00 PM »
Cool, that is indeed a much longer version.
Thanks for the link !
Gives some good views on the glassbox that contains "simple" components and no electronics ;)

To have electronics. Try to disassemble a 500W sine wave inverter, and see how many electronics in it. As much as it has in Glassbox. In addition, there are electronics for the HV and the delayed start "timer".

The only question is which gets its energy and how, not how to make selfruning or how to make the inverter or jouel tief for high voltage.

Think simple!!!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7166 on: September 07, 2011, 06:27:43 AM »
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   Very good quality video thanks. Couple odd things you can see in this video. There appears t be a long uninsulated copper strap along the length of the box? Maybe a shield to pick up stray charges?  ??? Also the cooling fan appears to be in an odd spot. The radiators for the transistors are positioned above the fan. So this fan will not cool anything. Also given the cluster of stuff in the box this small fan will do a very poor job of cooling anything.

   So if the fan is not for cooling then what is it being used for? Can't help but think of Tesla's Ozone generator patent. The fan would allow you to bring in a fresh supply of air. When Tesla demonstrated his transmission of electrical energy to the examiner in chief of the US patent office he did so in his laboratory, this is patent #645,576 and No. 649,621.

   Here Tesla recreated conditions that would exist in the atmosphere at about 4 miles or so. He did this with a glass tube of about 50' long and a vacuum pump. So the question is. If you look at Tesla patent 685,957 Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant energy do you really need an antenna? Couldn't you create the same conditions on ground level? If ozone is used is there any gain, greater then the energy required to produce, in changing from O3 -> O2?


Just a thought.

-Core

 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7167 on: September 07, 2011, 06:50:09 AM »
Really nice video but as I observed on that transparent box,
at about 22min. & 29sec the sparks gone wild then suddenly stop
(malfunctioned) before Mr TK finally turn the main switch OFF!
The wondering thing is, the lamps are still lighting and obviously
the power is also sustaining even though the sparks already stop!
If there is information that the spark is just to support the looping
or for sustaining power, then why the device is keep on running even
without HV spark? There could be some sort of another HV generator
which is hidden that produce feeble/silent sparks or his HV is not
the main thing to focus-on for the self-feeding system!
Just my thoughts, of course I could be wrong….


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7168 on: September 07, 2011, 03:52:20 PM »
Really nice video but as I observed on that transparent box,
at about 22min. & 29sec the sparks gone wild then suddenly stop
(malfunctioned) before Mr TK finally turn the main switch OFF!
The wondering thing is, the lamps are still lighting and obviously
the power is also sustaining even though the sparks already stop!
If there is information that the spark is just to support the looping
or for sustaining power, then why the device is keep on running even
without HV spark? There could be some sort of another HV generator
which is hidden that produce feeble/silent sparks or his HV is not
the main thing to focus-on for the self-feeding system!
Just my thoughts, of course I could be wrong….

Obviously yes, because judging from the irregular frequency of the spark discharges, this is only a so-called safety spark gap, that is meant to discharge
overvoltages to ground (Cable seems to come from black coil).
So the operation of this particular device requires high voltage but not necessarily a constantly running spark discharge.
As you pointed out, one has to consider though that there might be another gap "hidden" under the TV trash in there.
From the principle that i see this working with, only HV  is needed for the electrostatic electrification of the materials and no (continous) sparks.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2011, 04:32:54 PM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7169 on: September 07, 2011, 04:00:00 PM »
From what I understood from video that presentation was made in a hurry and Tariel explained that he had no time to use elecronic device and used spark gap which is generating hum/noise. That was clearly stated in the beginning of the video.