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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15444583 times)

Offline TheCell

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5415 on: January 31, 2011, 04:20:39 PM »
You should lead by example and replicate it, make a needed parts list and explain which operating conditions must be met for getting the desired results.
You can assume medium electronic building skills in most cases.
You cannot demand tesla knowledge here.
Start with a rude design that is easy do build , but is enough to prove the concept.

Offline dllabarre

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5416 on: January 31, 2011, 04:36:07 PM »
Last night I did my homework and studied the patent and then got lucky and found a few documents that supported it.

Anyway - read the patent. He explains it fully. The parts that he didn't explain, I just did. It's simple.



Q2

Can you share a link to the documents or post the name of the documents that you found?

I assume you're referring to Tariel's patent when you say  "read the patent"?

Thank you for any and all clarifications on your post.

DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5417 on: January 31, 2011, 05:29:19 PM »
Q2

Can you share a link to the documents or post the name of the documents that you found?

the patent :
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/WO2008103129A1%20(1).pdf

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5418 on: January 31, 2011, 06:12:27 PM »

the patent :
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/WO2008103129A1%20(1).pdf

Thanks.  I got the patent.

I'm looking for the supporting documents that Q2 found.
I'd like to read what he found that supports his theory.

DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5419 on: January 31, 2011, 06:22:00 PM »
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He in fact replicated Tesla's device and that is all it is.

Yes.I believe you are quite correct. He replicated Tesla device and found a way to stabilize resonance in second bobbin coils. RF capacitor is visible and spark gap (points in patent)
The rest is not so simple to guess , they might be chokes however.
Question : which Tesla device he replicated ? I think it was Tesla transformers.
Patent diagram is very rouge and we cannot be sure if he used flyback. If so then why he correctly draw RF capacitor but flyback is only a box with two connections ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5420 on: January 31, 2011, 08:44:23 PM »

Here's a picture of my current device running disconnected from the batteries.

Can you post schematics of this device?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5421 on: January 31, 2011, 10:47:19 PM »
DonL
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I'm looking for the supporting documents that Q2 found.
I'd like to read what he found that supports his theory.
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Yes that would be nice!
Chet

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5422 on: January 31, 2011, 11:17:19 PM »
@all,

would someone be kind enough to translate mishail1971 latest video.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mishail1971#p/a/u/0/d6t2F9JCxWc

Kind Regards, Penno

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5423 on: February 01, 2011, 04:38:26 AM »
DonL
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I'm looking for the supporting documents that Q2 found.
I'd like to read what he found that supports his theory.
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Yes that would be nice!
Chet

The document is too large to allow upload but I spelled it out in a nutshell. Loose coupling between the two sides of the circuit and only the ground is common so the dipole is not destroyed in the primary tank.

I am busy with other things and donated a week pounding my head against this. You should have everything you need to replicate and I would recommend you build something that fits in the palm of your hand starting with a disposable camera, that way the components are off the shelf and it does not cost much.

If I get time in the future I will build one. I have zero doubt that you can replicate this all the way to a self runner with the information I have provided.

Good luck


Offline wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5424 on: February 01, 2011, 04:40:36 AM »
@tagor

Thanks for the link.

@quarktoo

This patent is dated 2008. The green box video I was talking about is mid-90s if I am not mistaken. Thank you for mentioning this patent of TK. His name is right on the doc. So about 12 years later. This shows a good progression of the device but for sure the patent says exactly what one would expect. Nothing major, just enough to patent.

But there is module #4, the primary high frequency generator module and you see the module #11, the secondary frequency adjuster module that is at the output. This falls in perfectly with a progression from his GB to now.

When you look in the Plexi unit, you can see the real coil types his patent would talk about. They are not like the one in the GB demo.

12 years later, and now we are 3 years after that. Long live the patenting process and god help the world.

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5425 on: February 01, 2011, 05:50:04 AM »
@tagor

Thanks for the link.

@quarktoo

This patent is dated 2008. The green box video I was talking about is mid-90s if I am not mistaken. Thank you for mentioning this patent of TK. His name is right on the doc. So about 12 years later. This shows a good progression of the device but for sure the patent says exactly what one would expect. Nothing major, just enough to patent.

But there is module #4, the primary high frequency generator module and you see the module #11, the secondary frequency adjuster module that is at the output. This falls in perfectly with a progression from his GB to now.

When you look in the Plexi unit, you can see the real coil types his patent would talk about. They are not like the one in the GB demo.

12 years later, and now we are 3 years after that. Long live the patenting process and god help the world.

wattsup

Not sure what you are trying to say. The parts are laid out EXACTLY as one would expect would be required to fulfill the description of how it operates.

The number of ways you could build that circuit are endless but the general idea of how it works will stay the same. The number of things a person could do to improve it are also endless.

Bearden and Bedini have ranted for decades on not destroying the dipole. It shows you a method of how to accomplish that. It is a new trick for me so I am thrilled to have spent the time I did since the possibilities are endless. It does not use an accelerator or convert mass to atomic energy. Unstoppable! Tesla's patent covered it and from a patent search Kapanadzi does not have a patent in the US.

You don't a patent to build and sell a produce and if someone patents it after you do that, you can invalidate their patent.

You should be able to take roughly 10% or no more than the idle current from the primary tank inductor and it should run OU.  I never though of using a magnetic connection to prevent dipole shorting. How cool! Do your own thing on a breadboard and have fun with it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5426 on: February 01, 2011, 09:05:47 AM »
Refering to (given above):
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7679.0;attach=50623

This diagram gives an erroneous interpretation of Kapanadze's patent.
"Chokes" are large inductances having a high impedance to block highest frequency signals in a circuit.
In Kapanadze's patent, box 5 is named: "first filter". If the box 5 was a choke, then no current would significantly flow in the first coil. Only a low frequency current could pass, but we know that this coil is built for high frequencies.
For the same reason, box 7 can't be an "adjustable choke". And a choke has never to be adjusted because of its role of blocking all HF signals. It is different from a low pass filter. Moreover in Kapanadze's patent, box 7 is named: "first frequency adjuster", which is different from "filter" (box 5). Thus it is a pure non-sense to presume that these boxes are "chokes".


« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 10:48:10 AM by exnihiloest »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5427 on: February 01, 2011, 10:39:38 AM »
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Even then, I can surely certify that those coil wires are in no way and shape going to be able to mutually transfer 500 watts of juice from one coil to the other
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I don't share this opinion. In HF power amplifiers, especially those with tubes which have a much higher impedance than transistors and are tuned for a particular frequency, there are high Q resonant LC circuits. As the impedance of the charge, for example an antenna, is much lower, only few turns of wire coupled to the tuned coil are enough to transfer almost all the power from the resonant circuit to the charge, in an efficient way (the same as a down transformer with a big winding of thin wire for a high voltage input and a much smaller one but with wire of larger section for the output).
In Kapanadze's device, a ratio until 50 (may be even more) is possible. Perhaps there is 10 kV or more at the terminals of the primary resonant coil, for 200v out.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5428 on: February 01, 2011, 10:55:59 AM »
I don't share this opinion. In HF power amplifiers, especially those with tubes which have a much higher impedance than transistors and are tuned for a particular frequency, there are high Q resonant LC circuits. As the impedance of the charge, for example an antenna, is much lower, only few turns of wire coupled to the tuned coil are enough to transfer almost all the power from the resonant circuit to the charge, in an efficient way (the same as a down transformer with a big winding of thin wire for a high voltage input and a much smaller one but with wire of larger section for the output).
In Kapanadze's device, a ratio until 50 (may be even more) is possible. Perhaps there is 10 kV or more at the terminals of the primary resonant coil, for 200v out.

The numbers I had to work with from a Russian was the secondary is 1/4 wave length of the primary. The mutual coupling is weak (10%) which is what I would expect to see otherwise your tank is going to require a lot of power.

500Hz on the primary side divided by 10 on the secondary.

You can see the output coil appears to be about 1/4 the size on some of the coils and from a tap you see coming off the coil. While it is not in RF frequency range and certainly not "high frequency" it looks to me like two signals getting mixed in the load.

I saw a video of someone trying to look at it with an HP network analyzer and he could not explain what he was seeing nor had he seen anything like it before.

And finally, the tank resonance is going to be destroyed immediately without some chokes which is why I interpreted the patent that way. Feel free to contribute your own but if you think this circuit is explainable with classic EM and RF theory you may be disappointed. It's a self powered free energy device, not a ham radio or a network transformer.

I use the word choke instead of inductor. Semantics..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5429 on: February 01, 2011, 11:09:46 AM »

Does any one have this article?

Characteristics and Design of Transformer in Loosely Coupled Inductive Power Transfer System

Also this provides a good read:
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ape/2010/546529.html