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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406822 times)

XS-NRG

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5340 on: January 29, 2011, 12:06:49 AM »

Do you know how to generate cold electricity?


Yes, you put your battery in the freezer for at least 30min.
Then take it out and power your load with cold electricity  :)

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5341 on: January 29, 2011, 12:37:54 AM »
Yes, you put your battery in the freezer for at least 30min.
Then take it out and power your load with cold electricity  :)

I like dole's idea better. He says it is a standing wave - absolute electrical symmetry. Although your method sounds much more simple and definitely safer.

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5342 on: January 29, 2011, 12:52:32 AM »
Has anyone figured out TK latest pump thingy? It sounds like the magnetohydrodynamic effect Stan Meyer spoke of. I wonder if Tesla used that effect to drive his turbine but didn't speak of or patent it?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5343 on: January 29, 2011, 01:01:25 AM »
This is not true.
You can only have Cold when there is no electron flow.
Since conventional current involves electron flow Cold cannot exist.
This is why it happens prior to electron flow and dissapears when mass starts to move.
Grumpy would know this  ;)

This is not true, but it sure explains a lot.

The effect before the electrons drift is not cold electricity or cold current.  This is the wave effect, for lack of a better term, that can cause current flow under certain circumstances.  This effect can cause cold current, conduction current, or both and this depends on the orientation of the forces involved.  It is this effect that produces the perceived gain and any cold current is just a bonus unless it causes problems and then it is a nuisance.   Conduction current is electron flow. Cold current is outside the wire and is something else, so you can have both like I said.  If you have both, then a measure of the conduction current will not indicate the correct amount of current which will be much higher.

I always thought that the frozen wires on the VTA when it was shorted was BS.  If not, I would sure like to see that.

Too see the effect, just pulse DC HV into a big spool of wire.  The shortest that I have used is 1200 feet, and for test I have a coil that is about 3000 feet.  Use at least 2kv dc and fast pulses.  If your pulse is slow then us a short gap to speed it up, some HV diodes work well for this when reversed.  You can free run your pulser but it is best to trigger some way so you an adjust it and find the good spots.  Some pulse rates don't work well at all and you will think the whole thing is BS.

Why are we going over this anyway?   Many in this thread already know these things.

XS-NRG

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5344 on: January 29, 2011, 01:35:09 AM »

The effect before the electrons drift is not cold electricity or cold current. 


IS

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5345 on: January 29, 2011, 01:50:22 AM »
IS

Voltage prior to current flow does not produce an electron avalanche which is the result of fusion and subsequent fission taking place in a unipolar spark gap. Without that cascade effect, I don't see how you could have cold electricity since to produce cold, we need to produce a space of vacuum.

Particle annihilation or splatter would create that space of nothing.

Do either of you think that a spark gap is inside Kapandadzi's coil?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5346 on: January 29, 2011, 01:51:24 AM »
Has anyone figured out TK latest pump thingy? It sounds like the magnetohydrodynamic effect Stan Meyer spoke of. I wonder if Tesla used that effect to drive his turbine but didn't speak of or patent it?

Once Tariel has told: The most important thing - understand this hidden principle. Then you can use it to create any device. Without a difference. It can be electric, mechanical, hydraulic, etc :)

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5347 on: January 29, 2011, 02:10:23 AM »
When I look at his coil, I really see three secondary coils in series next to the spool.

I think they are being energized sequentially because if they are in series and the end of each coil loops through the core before going to the next coil, then maybe you get a pumping action on the core.

The core then becomes like a magnet but only 1 aether particle (polarity) is coming from the coil (longitudinal wave)

The outside coil pulls from the opposite direction to produce a standing wave in perfect symmetry.

It looks like his coils changed a little when he got rid of the spark gap

Does that make sense? I am not good at explaining things in any language.

LtBolo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5348 on: January 29, 2011, 02:29:36 AM »
Once Tariel has told: The most important thing - understand this hidden principle. Then you can use it to create any device. Without a difference. It can be electric, mechanical, hydraulic, etc :)

That's been my thought all along. Understand the basic flaw in the physics, and you can apply it in many ways.

Any clue as to what that principle is?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5349 on: January 29, 2011, 03:17:57 AM »
Referring to TK's bad appearance...

There is a very good likelihood that at the energy levels his devices operate at, the smaller devices are putting out soft X-rays, and the big ones might even be putting out hard X-rays or even gamma rays. It may turn out that although these devices might be built for very little, the shielding requirement might make them very impractical in actual use. Admittedly speculation, but, given TK's rapid decline and SR's statements about not feeling well for some time after running his device, there is some support for it.

TK's move toward mechanical versions may have been driven in part by an understanding that the electrical versions simply aren't safe.

Ben Schwartz is supposedly nearing production on the ERR device. Word from him is that the generator plates will be installed in a concrete vault below ground. Iron rebar cannot be used to reinforce the concrete, or it will explode, and apparently will require fiberglass rods instead. I was thinking that the problem with the ERR was actually random lightning strikes, but at the power levels these things are supposed to operate, it could also be nasty emissions.

At the very least, if you get something working...please...be careful. It simply might not be safe.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5350 on: January 29, 2011, 03:22:40 AM »
The effect before the electrons drift is not cold electricity or cold current.  This is the wave effect, for lack of a better term, that can cause current flow under certain circumstances.

This is true.  Effect before current is not cold current.  Cold current is when the effect change charge on matter.  Sometime all is cold current and sometime no cold current.  When magnetic field same direction as wire is mostly conduction.  When across is mostly cold.  Cold is bad word.  Cold does not make wire hot.  that is all.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5351 on: January 29, 2011, 03:25:25 AM »
Here is a good definition of cold electricity.

http://wikibin.org/articles/cold-electricity.html

Cold electricity is a process that involves two phenomena of physics, electron avalanche in a high voltage spark gap exposed to open air at atmospheric pressure and electron-positron annihilation. Gain is a term in electrical engineering that is used to describe a ratio of increase. Electron avalanche in an open air spark gap can be employed in an electric circuit to provide a gain in current in the circuit. Electron-positron annihilation is a process by which electrons combine with positrons to produce radiant energy.
The production of gamma radiation and magnetic longitudinal waves can be employed to induce a voltage gain in an electric circuit by means of the photoelectric effect. Thus, electron avalanche and electron-positron annihilation can be utilized to produce a gain in current and voltage within an electric circuit to produce electric power.

Some people make this up and is not true.

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5352 on: January 29, 2011, 03:34:20 AM »
Some people make this up and is not true.

Hi Ghost_rider,

If someone just made that up, any chance you could set the record straight then? Also, do you understand the principle of operation of TK's device? If so, what is it?

penno64

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5353 on: January 29, 2011, 03:38:22 AM »
@all,

That delamorto is really progressing -

http://www.youtube.com/user/delamortodelamorto#p/a/u/0/OegYgl3STHY

@quark,

I can help if you want dole's cold stuff. Let me know


Penno

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5354 on: January 29, 2011, 03:53:23 AM »
@all,

That delamorto is really progressing -

http://www.youtube.com/user/delamortodelamorto#p/a/u/0/OegYgl3STHY

@quark,

I can help if you want dole's cold stuff. Let me know


Penno

Hi Penno,

Dole did get back to me and gave me some info. but I'll take all the help I can get. PM me or if there is a thread, lead the way.