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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407631 times)

forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5055 on: January 12, 2011, 03:26:34 PM »
My opinion :
I have repeated many times that free energy device is no so important (even if various people tend to or will  make money from it) - the essence is the source of energy.
I cannot imagine that the source can be depleted easily but that option is potentially possible yet highly unprobable.

We see it all the time and have learned to be blind. So called electrostatics  :o is this energy constricted and released yet still at very high frequency ,and the same is doing Kapanadze just with continuous feedback - "cooling" down and condense.It means changing frequency down and converting to amperage.  It is all done operating on ether exactly like we would do with gas !

Now the most important question is : how much of this energy is coming from cosmic background and how much is generated by Earth itself to sustain life on our planet, or : how we could prove that energy is limitless for our purposes ?




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5056 on: January 12, 2011, 06:34:54 PM »
Oh, it IS infinite.
This has been proved here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y5bXdx5UrE&feature=player_embedded

Cheers

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5057 on: January 12, 2011, 06:53:50 PM »
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Hi Barout,

have you been following MISHAIL1971 at all ?
he posts on matrix site.

Regards, Penno.
p.s. what do you think of Lasersabre's ringer unit ?

Hello penno,

No, actually for the time being i am quite absorbed in making experiments regarding the concepts i have developed some time ago.
Either i have not a clue of lasersaber ringer unit.

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5058 on: January 12, 2011, 08:52:18 PM »
Hello Lee. A patent is not a blue print to replicate a device. Even if there was a schematic, it would be deliberately misleading or incomplete.
Well, I understand.  The international patent may actually be as you say.  In America, however, electrical patents very often---or always---are accompanied by a wiring schematic.  Then the patent examiner can refer to the schematic so as to comprehend the device as the inventor describes how it works step-by-step in the descriptive text.  Part numbers on drawings are always numbered in the text with bold characters.
That's what threw me off.  This is, I realize, an international patent.
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All I am looking for is the description of a technique used. One thing is for sure and that if someone goes through the trouble and expence of a world wide patent, he has something real.

Sad truth of the matter is that we will never see a commercial OU device. The product
is doomed to be moth balled the moment the inventor comes to the attention of the
oil industry. How does this stupid fool convince Putin to dismantle his gas pipeline?
I agree.  Quite accurate.  One becomes a large target when dealing with big corporations and the Gov't.

--Lee

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5059 on: January 12, 2011, 10:35:09 PM »
The patent offices are there actually mainly for the opposite purposes: that is to screen and conceal any potentially "mining" inventions that rediscover what the Money Mongers or Big Oil don't want the public to know.

cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5060 on: January 13, 2011, 01:17:49 AM »
What will it cost?

This technology are cheep, for 7KV device something around 50 USD - this is price for parts (something around that)

P.S. Everything is possible

core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5061 on: January 13, 2011, 01:53:48 AM »
This technology are cheep, for 7KV device something around 50 USD - this is price for parts (something around that)

P.S. Everything is possible


What do you mean by 'Everything'?

BTW - On the Russian site it was mentioned that Tariel was hospitalized and was receiving a blood transfusion. I got that from Google translate.

Is it true? and if so how is he doing?

Respectfully,

Core

exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5062 on: January 13, 2011, 10:34:12 AM »
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http://ferromagnetic-energy.com/
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Again and again the same errors.

In the hypothesis of the linear case, i.e when the circuit parameters such as permeability or magnetic domains are not modified by fields, fields superpose, they simply add (vectorially), and only a change of field strength can be recovered by a coil.

Two errors are linked to the ignorance of this fact.

1) If permanent magnets are static, their presence in a magnetic circuit with coils plays no role for the dynamical functioning. It is the reason why the MEG failed.
And if they move, then Lenz law applies to the coils, an opposite field is created and it is the mechanical work to move the permanent magnets against this "counter-field", that provides the energy.

Other example: when a field from a powering coil nullifies the magnetic field from a permanent magnet in a region where there is a probe coil, and we interrupt the current in the powering coil, it is often said that the field from the permanent magnet "rebuilds", and the probe coil can recover a signal and energy provided by the permanent magnet. It is false. The energy is not coming from the permanent magnet "rebuilding the field" but from the collapse of the field from the powering coil, that superposed to the permanent magnet field. One can remove the permanent magnet, there will be no difference from the viewpoint of the coil (always presumed the linear case).

2) The magnetic effects are always bi-directional and symmetric due to the isotropy of the magnetic field along the path of the field lines. If the powering of a coil magnetizes a distant ferromagnetic body, and we interrupt the current, then the collapsing field of the ferromagnetic body will induced a current in the coil. The site above asserts the contrary ("Field Bi2 does not penetrate inductor windings"). If Field Bi2 didn't penetrate "inductor windings", inversely the "inductor windings" could not magnetize the ferromagnetic "triblet" that generates Bi2. The matter of this site is completely wrong.

And we are far from Kapanaze's device.



penno64

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5063 on: January 13, 2011, 11:28:54 AM »
HI EX,

If you could spare the time to look at the matrix website and in particular, the experiments of
MISHAIL. His you tube account is mishail1971.

Could it also be measurement errors that account for his findings ?

Where has DOLE gone.

Did any one else notice that in his last youtube ( user name is xdole ), he had his kapa coil sitting
 perpendicular to a coil that appears to be his "collector", I wonder if that is what is hidden in kapa's green box.

Just a thought.

Also, madsatbg has shown a novel way to create HV for arcs, He uses a CFL light bulb then into
what seems a flyback via a large resistor. Intersting.

Regards, Penno
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 09:56:33 PM by penno64 »

broli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5064 on: January 13, 2011, 12:00:21 PM »
Again and again the same errors.

In the hypothesis of the linear case, i.e when the circuit parameters such as permeability or magnetic domains are not modified by fields, fields superpose, they simply add (vectorially), and only a change of field strength can be recovered by a coil.

Two errors are linked to the ignorance of this fact.

1) If permanent magnets are static, their presence in a magnetic circuit with coils plays no role for the dynamical functioning. It is the reason why the MEG failed.
And if they move, then Lenz law applies to the coils, an opposite field is created and it is the mechanical work to move the permanent magnets against this "counter-field", that provides the energy.

Other example: when a field from a powering coil nullifies the magnetic field from a permanent magnet in a region where there is a probe coil, and we interrupt the current in the powering coil, it is often said that the field from the permanent magnet "rebuilds", and the probe coil can recover a signal and energy provided by the permanent magnet. It is false. The energy is not coming from the permanent magnet "rebuilding the field" but from the collapse of the field from the powering coil, that superposed to the permanent magnet field. One can remove the permanent magnet, there will be no difference from the viewpoint of the coil (always presumed the linear case).

2) The magnetic effects are always bi-directional and symmetric due to the isotropy of the magnetic field along the path of the field lines. If the powering of a coil magnetizes a distant ferromagnetic body, and we interrupt the current, then the collapsing field of the ferromagnetic body will induced a current in the coil. The site above asserts the contrary ("Field Bi2 does not penetrate inductor windings"). If Field Bi2 didn't penetrate "inductor windings", inversely the "inductor windings" could not magnetize the ferromagnetic "triblet" that generates Bi2. The matter of this site is completely wrong.

And we are far from Kapanaze's device.

Still keeping that anti progressive agenda on high priority I see.

If the distance between coil and ferromagnetic material is large enough the coil can be completely ignorant of the FM. Perhaps you forgot that EM is not instantaneous but propagates at a certain speed. If you shoot out flux you can switch off the coil before the response flux of the FM hits the coil back. This has nothing to do with this thread, but it's atleast more constructuve than your "you're all wrong and I'm always right" BS posts.

cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5065 on: January 13, 2011, 04:43:15 PM »

What do you mean by 'Everything'?

BTW - On the Russian site it was mentioned that Tariel was hospitalized and was receiving a blood transfusion. I got that from Google translate.

Is it true? and if so how is he doing?

Respectfully,


Core

That's true

TheCell

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5066 on: January 13, 2011, 06:10:32 PM »
Again and again the same errors.

In the hypothesis of the linear case, i.e when the circuit parameters such as permeability or magnetic domains are not modified by fields, fields superpose, they simply add (vectorially), and only a change of field strength can be recovered by a coil.

Two errors are linked to the ignorance of this fact.

1) If permanent magnets are static, their presence in a magnetic circuit with coils plays no role for the dynamical functioning. It is the reason why the MEG failed.
And if they move, then Lenz law applies to the coils, an opposite field is created and it is the mechanical work to move the permanent magnets against this "counter-field", that provides the energy.

Other example: when a field from a powering coil nullifies the magnetic field from a permanent magnet in a region where there is a probe coil, and we interrupt the current in the powering coil, it is often said that the field from the permanent magnet "rebuilds", and the probe coil can recover a signal and energy provided by the permanent magnet. It is false. The energy is not coming from the permanent magnet "rebuilding the field" but from the collapse of the field from the powering coil, that superposed to the permanent magnet field. One can remove the permanent magnet, there will be no difference from the viewpoint of the coil (always presumed the linear case).
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And we are far from Kapanaze's device.

Another member stated :
All free energy devices convert mass into the atomic energy contained within the mass.
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My opinion (if we leave the linear case)
If it is somehow possible to change an element from one isotope to another it seems to me logical that you can get energy out of it.
Because several patents exist working on that way you described , I assume that they cannot be all false claims.

the kunel patent, the way richard willis devices work , the Michel Meyer patent.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5067 on: January 14, 2011, 02:03:37 AM »

Where has DOLE gone.


Thank you for asking, It would be much easier just to publish what I do but I still have difficulties to solve many problems, beside can you imagine a embarrassment if it not do what should suppose. I am sorry for writing in the BS way but I really do not know how to express myself better for now. It will be on a youtube some day.
Here is what I start to explore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbtT_Lc2yXk

As you see the guy do not care about the BEMF, I am now able to utilize the BEMF to, so next to do is not destroy a dipole, but rather preserve and conserve the energy gain. So, at the end everything depends on condensers/wire capacity, and how much you can store and dissipate in opposed storage through the load (Tesla 4 switch). This is highly nonlinear and I suppose Tariel found very smart way to a self-adjustment, otherwise it overload or loss the gain.
We should think about avalanche pendulum which never swings upwards.
If we start from some potential energy and go to the point of a maximum kinetic energy, we may convert / derivate from mass and gravity some appropriate small energy and store then as a potential energy. At that point of the maximum kinetic energy we dissipate the stored potential energy as a kinetic kick, adding it to the this natural kinetic maximum and derivate new portion for next bigger kick, So then we repeat again and again and again (pulsing), not from the source but from the gain.
It is fits very well what Tesla does, Edwin G., SM, even Moray, we only need a potential difference to start the oscillation, of course we must take care of the charge frequency and natural swing frequency and nonlinear kick time (resonance in the resonance) rest depend on the capacity storage. Now you can imagine what charge Tesla tried to swing.  Probably he does :)
Huff bla bla bla, better to work and be quiet, anyway CosmoLV promised solution before first summer beer on the beach so we do not have to worry.

At least “They” allow to teach this at schools to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3eI4SVDyME&feature=related
Take a time and see, if not at least last 10min

And of course for those who think differently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ZHQQUusGo&feature=related


Ps.
The quieter you become the more you are able to hear…
(Some may know where this is written some may not :))

d.



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