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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 11904814 times)

Offline core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4140 on: October 10, 2010, 10:38:39 PM »

I would say that 'virtual photons' sound a whole lot like 'luminiferous aether'. Funny thing...it seems that the whole justification for quantum mechanics is to deal with the obvious truth of the aether. Since Newtonian mechanics can't work at the quantum level unless there is a power source...and we've ruled out the power source by eliminating the aether...let's create a whole new line of study that masks the truth that was known 130 years ago, by creating virtual particles...

...But don't get me started. The most likely explanation for huge reservoirs of fossil fuels buried under immense layers of sedimentary rock is a massive flood event that killed off billions of animals and deposited them in huge mass graves and then buried them in mud. Ironically though, the same science that talks about planet wide floods on Mars...which currently doesn't have much water at all...completely rules it out on Earth, where 75% of the planet is currently covered in water...and...virtually every ancient religion has a flood mythology of one sort or another. Gee lemme think...why, oh why don't we have universal free energy?

<rant mode *off*>

As for his proposal, I don't really have a specific opinion. He sounds very intelligent and it all sounds well thought out. I would simply wonder why if he truly had a strong conviction about the viability, why no experiments?

Regarding the 'Rant Mode' I must say I enjoyed it and I believe sums up many members feelings here. Please rant anytime you wish. :)

   As far as the author of the article from what I have read he is a very spiritual man, not in a religious way, but 'in tune' with nature. From my view both of his devices appear on the outside to explain Tariel and SR. I guess time and study will tell. Regardless there is much information on both devices that warrant a new thread to be started.
   
   I am very interested in the 'Virtual photon power converter' this of course can be called 'Aether power converter' or simply 'Tesla fuel less generator'.

   As for your point regarding why no prototype has been made? Here is a quote from the site.

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        When high voltages are applied, this device will have some kind of effect as perceived from the outside.  What that effect is may be subject to question without a prototype.
          "Knock yourself out."  I do not have anywhere near the resources (intellectual, physical. or fiscal) to begin such a project.

          Included with this page is a copy of the aborted patent application for this device.  I screwed up on getting the claims right and this is a copy of the last try at the transducer.
          A device cannot be patented a year after it has been published.  Because of this web site and a patent application is considered 'being published', this device is free and up for grabs.  As it is now, it can't be patented.  There is a potential for a whole new frontier here.

Well let me tell you I plan on 'Knocking my self out'. The good new is that there is already a theory of operation and a preliminary wiring diagram. What more can you ask for?

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Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4141 on: October 10, 2010, 11:17:21 PM »
Should anyone be interested based on the above few posts by me I have started a new thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9846.msg260342#msg260342

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4142 on: October 10, 2010, 11:32:24 PM »
As far as the author of the article from what I have read he is a very spiritual man, not in a religious way, but 'in tune' with nature.

All of nature screams 'Creator'. I don't think I have seen a single person that has studied this subject in any depth that doesn't arrive back at some form of 'God' or spirituality. The specific nature of 'who' or 'what' that 'He' or 'it' is, is as varied as the people involved. I happen to be Christian, which informs my perspectives and perceptions accordingly.  I will balance that, however, with what I consider to be Christianity's major 'elephant in the living room'...and that is that we really do not know the true nature of God. While I perceive Him as father and creator, I'm reasonably sure He isn't an old white guy in flowing white robes sitting on a golden throne controlling the world with the celestial equivalent of an XBox/360. So if not that...then what?

Of course that was the problem with the aether to begin with, wasn't it? In most scientists mind, the aether and the immense power it represents pointed in very clear terms to a creative force of some kind. Einstein seemed to do the world a great favor by allowing them a face saving way out of that awkward aether with its implied creative force, and the world flocked to him. Of course doing so ran us down a path that set science back a century or so, but I guess that is the price of foolishness, huh?

Ok, done with philosophy...


So, build it! It seems well thought out. Maybe you should make some effort to contact the author first to see what the status currently is and whether he knows of anyone else having tried it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4142 on: October 10, 2010, 11:32:24 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4143 on: October 10, 2010, 11:56:37 PM »
......... While I perceive Him as father and creator, I'm reasonably sure He isn't an old white guy in flowing white robes sitting on a golden throne controlling the world with the celestial equivalent of an XBox/360. So if not that...then what?

  Needless to say I fell of my chair laughing. :D

So, build it! It seems well thought out. Maybe you should make some effort to contact the author first to see what the status currently is and whether he knows of anyone else having tried it.

  The later is in progress. Will update on new thread.

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Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4144 on: October 11, 2010, 01:27:33 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4145 on: October 11, 2010, 04:15:01 AM »
@cosmo

I made the effort to read all your post on energetic forum. So many clues, hints, info, data that is spread, just need to collect. I understand your way of interaction in forum.

Do not let yourself bothered by negative voices. Like said ignore them. No need to explain yourself to anyone who don't get it still. Better concentrate only to support those who catches up and can show responses to your many probings.

In maybe a month or two, only then i can do real experiments. Now i have no chance. So it would be fine if you would stick around for a while longer.

If i'm not lazy, i will collect all hints to get a clearer picture.

Nobody is taking his words lightly , I am spending the time and money .

But Im not putting anybody on a pedestal yet .

Never fully trust of disbelieve .

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4146 on: October 11, 2010, 08:14:00 AM »
If we go by Rhthmodynamics from ivanov then the spark is creating rapid imbalance in standing wave wich might disturbs ambient wave exchange  close to device and allowing a new wavepattern to form , frequency pulling somehow ( still visualizing ). Changing both earth and ambient exchange frequency exchange near device . Energy flows from Hi to low remember .

I believe the device compares itself to earth like earth compares itself to surrounding space .

http://www.mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm

http://www.mirit.ru/video/008.htm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4146 on: October 11, 2010, 08:14:00 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4147 on: October 11, 2010, 09:54:07 AM »
This is some bit a concentration of cosmo's contribution in energetic forum. Since it's all spread around, it was needed to be put back together. Which is what he suggested himself ("Who listen what i'm saying couple posts back and on start in this thread , they understand principle of device and fully can make it...").


Tesla switch has nothing to do with Kapanadze device.

Parametric resonance in Tesla coil, see what Don Smith are done in his coil - it is wind on right way, only one thing is missing there, you need ferrite or iron core and right HV transformer and find the frequency by adjusting spark gap.

(21..35) KHz with small simple HV transformer with 3000v - 6000v
must use a correct HV transformer type
stay away from MOT (disturbs electromagnetic field)

3 things to drive FE device (all mandatory, else won't give OU)

1) spark gap - radiant energy - absorbing it
Important thing is method for absorb properly the energy released from process.. very important is understand what is radiant energy and as is propagated from process.. - "Energy comes from air" - Only what you need is little HV to make Born new electrons and lots of electrons forming around the wires, the second thing is to activate these electrons...
- Sparkgap is used only to put juice in tesla coil - to support voltage loop.
- important is spark gap power, like on electric lighter - it is strong and fast with great potential.
- do not put load in spark gap path


2) coil setup  (http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4952/rtgxsgvypa.png)
deleted example - as from post #191 ("very efficient coil setup")
-with 19 ferrite rings as we all know by now
-everything is in the coil setup - actually in windings.
-it is bifilar coil but in not standard way
-Coil resonate itself and make some magnetic fluctuations
-Coil does not run using with TV HV Transformers
-Coil phenomena is that it runs around 50 ~ 60 Hz by itself
-Forget about modulations, Scopes and others - (without understanding principle this makes no sense)
-don't take energy directly from the coil like Smith design.


3) ??? (maybe exists and mixed already in above lines)


What about the significance of glass medium in 100KW setup, is it used to redirect/collect electrons from air ?

Now, if those with ready test-bench can cross-check the above guidelines and actually continue to perform suggested tests. And let's keep focused on subject.
The rest and newer contributions are in THIS topic. What to do next is to experiment and share / discuss the results here. Do you guys have frequency generators or other simple means to generate (21..35) KHz? Do you have the right simple HV generator ? Giving special attention to spark gap during process. That all should be enough to tune YOUR coil. Every coil as i understand will need it's own tuning.

What to do next after having a "hotdog toaster" ?

Quote from: wojwrobel;98186
hello

i just wanted to add something :

im working on Thane Heins devices and found very similar idea with that what Kapanadz is doing !!

ok
first Kapanadze device was a rotating device right!! not solid state and here is this similarity

when you read Thane Heins patent CA2437745A1 you will find out that he uses two types of coils on one core one is high voltage coil that creates "static enviroment" that prevents current from flowing second "working" low voltage high current coil , so when magnet pas thru coil the high voltage coil blocks current from flowing in working coil and when magnets leave it releases all current buildup in working coil thats why current is deleyed in Thane generators and its propably deleyed in Kapanadze device but noboody can mesure !!!

and Kapanadz solid state device works on the same principe its simply creates "static enviroment" in working coil that holds current from flowing until primary finish work cycle....

cheers from poland
wojsciech


Quote from: cosmo-lv;98207
Ok - ewerybody can make one simple experiment.

(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/100607/aWUTKHQ2Rx.png)

After that Guess the design of the Kapanadze/Tesla Coil :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4148 on: October 11, 2010, 10:07:46 AM »
I wanted to apologize once here, because that i collected material from others and thrown onto you guys. I'm aware that i should take my time and effort to do tests myself and share results here. Due reasons, i can not do so for now, so i play the role of an assistant. Hence 2 of my replies started with a "Sorry...".

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4149 on: October 11, 2010, 11:14:09 AM »
...
While I perceive Him as father and creator, I'm reasonably sure He isn't an old white guy in flowing white robes sitting on a golden throne controlling the world with the celestial equivalent of an XBox/360. So if not that...then what?
...

Not an old white guy in flowing white robes, sure, but just a psychological process working in the neurons of the believers.
Unfortunately we don't know how to plug it to get FE.
 :D


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4150 on: October 11, 2010, 11:49:27 AM »
http://ipicture.ru/uploads/100607/aWUTKHQ2Rx.png

This test say all.
HV make juice ih the feritte magnet and make supermagnet.
Supermagnet create more magnetics field and fan speed up.

SR/kapanadze use elektromagnet with 220V on left and right side or in the core (5kW device)

look fig 6 on the end of this document:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt3.html

and see this US pattent:
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Dan%20Davidson%20acoustic%20magnetic%20power%20generator%20patent.pdf


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4151 on: October 13, 2010, 02:47:04 AM »
Here is a new video from a recent German Television channel MDR.
They seem to have visited him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW3tg-3uxOI


Sorry, I don´t know more in this moment about this TV documentation.
Here is a German page about it:

http://www.mdr.de/windrose/7752900.html

Here is the Google translated page:

http://translate.google.de/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mdr.de%2Fwindrose%2F7752900.html



Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4152 on: October 13, 2010, 10:07:02 PM »
Try this setup.

When you hit frequency, the lamp will shine several times stronger. Input current and voltage does not change.

***Photo size changed by the Moderator***
« Last Edit: October 15, 2010, 04:06:10 AM by Pirate88179 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4153 on: October 14, 2010, 04:37:10 AM »
This regarding HV/HF coil (which is wrapped right on ferrite rings, 33 turns maybe):
HVolt has this function: It blocks the outer coil. No electromagnetism possible with outer coil as long as HV/HF active.
HFreq has this function: It makes supermagnet. Must tune to find right frequency.



Now regarding the outer bifilar coil (14 turns each) with 2 transistors and the extended short coil (8 turns) from middle of transistors via 35V 2700uF cap.

Processes: Peak of wave from High frequency are divided in two half waves by emitter follower.

What for ? What is the idea behind it if done so ? Can somebody explain why we need this... (Maybe i answered myself at end of this text.)

Is the same output of 555 timer used and shared to create a wave for these transistos AND for the HV coil ?
Remember, it was said to be 21..35 KHz.



Tariel work with magnetic fields too but in little bit different way as SR, yes he use tesla coil, but bifilar - but i do not want to get there too deep - specialy on Tariel device.

We need to explore this to have more power output. Not now, later, once we replicated SR design here.


Ferrite represents as "Black Matter" or "Dead magnetic field" - now think what you can do with it..


How does this thing work then...


Q: If this fits correct does then the output has to be achieved inductively
A: better is saying magnetically, like electric generator...


The output coil (said to be bifilar coil, looped both ways to eleiminate melting or so) placed into ferrite hole.

How do you create electricity in real life ? With generator. You need to turn axis holding bobbins inside a fixated magnet.
Magnet, coil, pulsation/rotation => electricity (moving electrons).

What this SR degign probably do is the same.
You create magnetism / no magnetism with switch off/on the HV coil.
The low voltage bifilar coils are needed to greate a electromagnet using ferrite coil.
Both use same frequency,  using the 2 transistos.
This magnetic pulsation (same as turning axis in generator) gives the cycles (speed of axis) to generate electricity on output coil.
Moving/pulsating magnetic field, coil => electricity

The OU come from supermagnet created with HV/HF.

Is this so, cosmo ? Is the mystery solved in theory? (i must know what i'm doing in my head, only then i can feel to go built it.)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4154 on: October 14, 2010, 06:30:33 AM »
Nice job condensing the information.  :)

 I stated on this thread that 'Words are the worst form of communication'. Your statement below confuses me, take a good look at it.

This regarding HV/HF coil (which is wrapped right on ferrite rings, 33 turns maybe):
HVolt has this function: It blocks the outer coil. No electromagnetism possible with outer coil as long as HV/HF active.
HFreq has this function: It makes supermagnet. Must tune to find right frequency.

My question is:

'If the HV/HF being active removes electromagnetism then how does HFreq make super magnet if at the same time it removes electromagnetism'?


On the topic of 'Dead magnetic field'. Here is another phrase that is up to interpretation.

Examples:
Does dead mean static?
Does dead mean no true 'N' or 'S' pole?
Does dead mean 'not doing electrical work'?

Does a magnet on your refrigerator represent a 'dead' magnetic field? If so how does it stay there if its dead? If its not doing any work how is it dead?
Does dead imply that the poles are not shifting or oscillating? If so can I make a 'DC' magnet and would that be a dead magnet? 
Two like poles facing each other create a 'Dead zone' no magnetic field, is that what the author implied?

Oh and one more 'Can a strong Electric field be misinterpreted as a Dead magnetic field'?  ::)

You can go 'on and on' here. The term 'Dead magnetic field' is not Cosmo's words they belong to SR193. It's part of the script.

On the topic of 'dead' notice how dead this thread got? (bad pun)
Maybe better to wait till the Grand Opening (summer of 2011)  ;D

Keep up the good work and hopefully you can experiment soon.

Respectfully,

Core


 

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