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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13673502 times)

Offline Dankie1

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4125 on: October 10, 2010, 02:23:59 AM »
I don't know.

   At first I thought he was just a loon but the line about interfering HF with LV is dead on. Also another thing that makes sense is that SR's device, contrary to what Cosmo says is not even in the same ballpark with Tariels. I believe Tariels device is unlimited and SR's is very limited.

   Somehow I just can't see how Tariel gets 5KW out of that small green box and Cosmo and SR (perhaps) can only pull off 400watts? Something does not sound right to me. It appears that everyone, including our Russian counterparts, are being 'pushed' into doing it the SR way. Every thread everywhere that has been started about Tariel's device has been directed toward using ferrite rings and the SR method, why? SR has never built a 5KW unit out of scrap wire and I bet he doesn't use a steak knife as a wire cutter and stripper. I don't think I even saw a solder joint on Tariels device.

   Why are we going in this direction??????


Respectfully,

Core

BTW - Found some great hi-voltage drivers on the internet. In the process of building them as I type.

I have the same feeling , on the russian forums SR is mostly ignored now .

Lets not put insis comments in the trash bin right away .

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4126 on: October 10, 2010, 02:36:46 AM »
  Somewhere along the line there is a process of mixing two waves a High and low voltage to make on. Flip back about 15 to 20 pages and I think you will see what I mean. Until we get to that point I don't think you will see any power amplification. But you do have an amazing hot dog cooker. :)

I don't know if I agree with that. If the amplification comes from parameter change in the ferrite, then I am already getting it, but not using the configurations that Cosmo claims. When I stick coils in the center, I can feel vibrations in my fingers when I hold them just off of anything connected to the coil...without actually touching it.

When I use a more traditional primary/secondary approach, I can light a 150W halogen rather nicely when getting good discharges that I know are saturating the ferrite, and not at all with the same power not properly discharged. The problem right now is that I don't have any good way to quantify the amount of power actually going into the primary vs the amount of power coming out of the secondary. It should be pretty simple...but due to the insane voltages and very narrow pulses it is pretty difficult to get a fair accounting of the powers. But from what I can see, the key to this seems to be to get the power out before the parameter changes back. Given the very high speeds of the pulses and relatively short duration of the saturation period, that seems to be a little harder than you would think.

That said, if ya'll got any clues how to do this better, I'm listening. I'm still thinking that a Tesla transformer is boosting voltage kinetically, and if you were to find a good way to interact electrostatically with the business end and build a high current resonance from that relative to a distant ground, you might be finding the common ground between Kapanadze and Smith. I don't put too much stock in Smith though...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4127 on: October 10, 2010, 03:02:26 AM »
That said, if ya'll got any clues how to do this better, I'm listening.

  Just as a wild a$$ guess. There was that YouTube video of the man Madog? (I think I got his name wrong). He places a ferrite rod with a coil wrapped around it soldered to a light bulb. If you do that in you setup will it light?

Respectfully,

Core

BTW- are you pulsing the primary coil? Is that how you are saturating the ring? Are you able to nullify the magnetic field with the hi-voltage? 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4128 on: October 10, 2010, 03:34:01 AM »
He places a ferrite rod with a coil wrapped around it soldered to a light bulb. If you do that in you setup will it light?
Yeah, but for different reasons. His is in a tesla secondary...an electrostatic field and the ferrite becomes an antenna. I'm not sure what we are dealing with in the saturated ferrite case, but adding more ferrite just moves the magnetic field inside the inside coil. I would fully expect it to light. The best light does not come that way.

BTW- are you pulsing the primary coil? Is that how you are saturating the ring? Are you able to nullify the magnetic field with the hi-voltage?

There's nothing to nullify...I'm not powering the secondary. I'm not sure why you would even want to. The amount of current being induced in the secondary as the primary is saturating the core is 2 orders of magnitude higher than what you would be powering secondary with.

I think cosmo was just trying to show that a spark discharge could kill the magnetic field by resonant saturation...nothing more.

Incidentally, the only time I can light the bulb is when I am certain the core is saturating, as verified by scope traces like the one I posted many pages back. If I don't get that waveform, the bulb doesn't light...that's what leads me to believe that I am already getting the desired effect. Just can't do it from inside...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4129 on: October 10, 2010, 04:13:21 AM »
BTW - Found some great hi-voltage drivers on the internet. In the process of building them as I type.

Can you post the link to the high voltage dividers?

While I was driving today I was thinking "if I could divide up my 10kV transformer output I could use it for this device".
I get home tonight and read where you found some HV dividers.  It's like you caught my thought this morning.  ;D

Thank you,
DonL


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4130 on: October 10, 2010, 05:20:49 AM »
Can you post the link to the high voltage dividers?

While I was driving today I was thinking "if I could divide up my 10kV transformer output I could use it for this device".
I get home tonight and read where you found some HV dividers.  It's like you caught my thought this morning.  ;D

Thank you,
DonL

  I will link them ASAP, as soon as I remember what bookmark folder I put them in. :( Worst case I placed the data in a word file and upload that.

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Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4131 on: October 10, 2010, 05:22:16 AM »
Just wanted to share an interesting site.

http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html

It may have been already posted here, not sure. If so disregard.

Respectfully,

Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4132 on: October 10, 2010, 12:22:14 PM »
@cosmo

I made the effort to read all your post on energetic forum. So many clues, hints, info, data that is spread, just need to collect. I understand your way of interaction in forum.

Do not let yourself bothered by negative voices. Like said ignore them. No need to explain yourself to anyone who don't get it still. Better concentrate only to support those who catches up and can show responses to your many probings.

In maybe a month or two, only then i can do real experiments. Now i have no chance. So it would be fine if you would stick around for a while longer.

If i'm not lazy, i will collect all hints to get a clearer picture.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4133 on: October 10, 2010, 02:24:06 PM »
Just wanted to share an interesting site.

http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html

It may have been already posted here, not sure. If so disregard.

Respectfully,

Core

I've never seen this link posted and yes it's interesting.

Thank you,
DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4133 on: October 10, 2010, 02:24:06 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4134 on: October 10, 2010, 03:31:46 PM »
Can you post the link to the high voltage dividers?

While I was driving today I was thinking "if I could divide up my 10kV transformer output I could use it for this device".
I get home tonight and read where you found some HV dividers.  It's like you caught my thought this morning.  ;D

Thank you,
DonL

Don,
   Here are the links for the circuits, there are two of them, one on each page. I am combining both of them and will be working with an ignition coil (can type) off a car. The output will be DC pulses but I'm sure in the future it can be modified to create an AC output.

Links:

http://www.eleccircuit.com/ignition-coil-driver-by-ic-555-2n3055/

http://www.rmcybernetics.com/projects/DIY_Devices/homemade_ignition_coil_driver.htm


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Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4135 on: October 10, 2010, 04:07:30 PM »
I've never seen this link posted and yes it's interesting.

Thank you,
DonL

It is a very interesting site. He did a great job. One of the pictures caught my attention. (see below) I am tempted to try out his ideas also. I wonder what the result would be if in our ferrite ring core we place a dialectic or air gap in the middle. He seems to be polarizing both halves while the high voltage covers both halves. Coincidentally there is a 'coil' in the middle of the ferrite?

Respectfully,

Core


 Here is an interesting part of the article.

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   To physically locate the Tesla coil somewhere else and in its place put a third coil -- an eddy current drive coil.   This coil would be driven by some kind of phase control device: capacitance, resistive capacitance, solid state, etc.  The purpose of this third coil is to create expanding and contracting magnetic fields that are in a desired phase with the electron migration induced by the high voltage emitters within the core material -- in a complimentary phase with the charging capacitor.  This would mean that this coil could be 90 degrees out of phase with the Tesla coil and would need some kind of phase control.
          Unlike Option 1, this coil's function can go in multiple directions according to the phase control.  The two extremes are:

    * The effects of the expanding and collapsing magnetic field to be completely in phase with the electrically induced electron migration caused by the high voltage plates -- totally work with the high voltage capacitor operation.
    * The effects of the expanding and collapsing magnetic field to be 180 degrees out of phase with the electrically induced electron migration caused by the high voltage plates -- totally work against the high voltage capacitor operation.
    * And then...there is any place in between.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4136 on: October 10, 2010, 06:19:06 PM »
Going back to the above article. Lets assume that the Spark Gap is OU like LtBolo stated. In the article what if the high voltage end was feed by a spark gap?

It was hinted by Cosmo regarding insulation. Here is some nice wording in the article:

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  All high voltage insulation considerations should be taken into account.  The entire high voltage electric field isolation transformer/capacitor assembly (except for the pole surfaces) should be embedded in a high voltage non dielectric insulation material.

Can get some opinions from you electrical Guru's :)

Last but not least, the last statement in the article had me at hello. (bad pun) :(

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You may notice that this device is very simple.  Because this device is so simple, it is the author's opinion that it if it works (as the author guesses), it should have been invented 80 years ago.  One person capable of this, at that time, would have been Nikoli Tesla.

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Core
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4137 on: October 10, 2010, 07:23:28 PM »
On the same site look at this page. This has been spoken about before but dismissed. Maybe time to give it another look. I do believe this is the 'missing link'

http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html

Respectfully,

Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4138 on: October 10, 2010, 08:00:43 PM »
@LtBolo

 Can I get your professional opinion on this paragraph. This sounds very enticing and may explain Tariel's device. Also note to All. The website is dated from Aug. 2000 This info appears old but simple.

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 Physics, in the field of quantum electrodynamics, hypothesizes the existence of virtual photons.  These are potential photons with an infinite amount of potential energy.  This virtual photon explanation is used to explain the amount of physical force that can occur for a relatively small amount of electrical work with Coulomb’s Law.
    This device is an attempt to convert the infinite power potential of a virtual photon into an actual electromagnetic power drive circuit – electrical energy.  The idea is an attempt to amplify electrical power through the use of a VPR (Virtual Photon Reference).

    The electrical approach is relatively simple.  A single circuit that provides both current and voltage energizes almost all electrical devices; voltage and current sources come from the same power supply.  This device has two separate power supply circuits; one provides the current, while the other provides the voltage.  Assuming AC is put in, one power supply provides the current – is the magnetic field driver – while the other circuit provides the voltage – is the electric field driver.  The phase between these two separate AC power supplies is adjustable.
    The device mixes a high voltage induced electric field with a high current induced magnetic field into a primary of a transformer and on a plate of a capacitor.  The device has two circuits mixing in a single transformer, one a current circuit – magnetic field related -- while the other is a voltage circuit – electric field related.  The voltage is induced into the coil through capacitance and this help keeps the circuits’ currents of the two power supplies isolated.
    The idea is for secondary of the transformer magnetically and electrically sees a high voltage and high current transformer primary winding – a high VA primary.  This lower voltage high current secondary feeds a power load (whatever that may be) according to the VA it ‘sees’.

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Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4139 on: October 10, 2010, 09:49:10 PM »
@Core

Incidentally, I don't think the spark gap is OU, although some do...I think the inductance drop due to resonant saturation...might...be OU, but only because Cosmo stated pretty definitively that it is. If that is the case, then, anything that you can do to 1) jack up the current to very high levels, and 2) while at high current, resonant saturate the ferrite, and then 3) stash or consume the power prior to the recovery of the ferrite, should be OU. Do so efficiently, and you may even end up with COP > 1. I do distinguish between the two. I consider something OU that is adding energy to the system, regardless of whether it is COP > 1. Although only COP > 1 is truly helpful.

Can I get your professional opinion on this paragraph. This sounds very enticing and may explain Tariel's device.

I would say that 'virtual photons' sound a whole lot like 'luminiferous aether'. Funny thing...it seems that the whole justification for quantum mechanics is to deal with the obvious truth of the aether. Since Newtonian mechanics can't work at the quantum level unless there is a power source...and we've ruled out the power source by eliminating the aether...let's create a whole new line of study that masks the truth that was known 130 years ago, by creating virtual particles...

...But don't get me started. The most likely explanation for huge reservoirs of fossil fuels buried under immense layers of sedimentary rock is a massive flood event that killed off billions of animals and deposited them in huge mass graves and then buried them in mud. Ironically though, the same science that talks about planet wide floods on Mars...which currently doesn't have much water at all...completely rules it out on Earth, where 75% of the planet is currently covered in water...and...virtually every ancient religion has a flood mythology of one sort or another. Gee lemme think...why, oh why don't we have universal free energy?

<rant mode *off*>

As for his proposal, I don't really have a specific opinion. He sounds very intelligent and it all sounds well thought out. I would simply wonder why if he truly had a strong conviction about the viability, why no experiments?

 

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