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core · « **Reply #4095 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:39:29 PM »

.....One more quick note to confuse us even more, this time regarding shielding. As was hinted a few pages back that shielding the 'right things' are important. Some food for thought shielding does not just have to refer to a covering on a wire. When I'm welding or soldering more often then not (actually all the time) a small atmosphere, via flux or gas, is the difference between it flowing or not flowing into the joint.

Respectfully,

Core

Hmmm.... more nonsense before I go to work. An energized coil wrapped around ferrite core creates a magnetic field and a strong one at that. This field is the natural outcome or process of the two put together. But if you find the right hi-voltage frequency that neutralizes the natural outcome of the process then we can say it is unbalanced or unnatural. At this point wouldn't nature seek to find a balance? or better, correct the imbalance?

iflewmyown · « **Reply #4096 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:45:39 PM »

@LtBolo

you said "What should I be considering for capture coils?"

I assume you tried a loop of heavy copper through the center of the ferrite with both ends outside at your meter. Yes, I know it shouldn't work.
Garry

Dankie1 · « **Reply #4097 on:** October 08, 2010, 05:30:21 PM »

I think Cosmos you are trying to throw me off and say whatever unspecific freq .

Id say 20 khz to 3 Mhz .

LtBolo · « **Reply #4098 on:** October 08, 2010, 05:40:26 PM »

Quote from: iflewmyown on October 08, 2010, 04:45:39 PM

I assume you tried a loop of heavy copper through the center of the ferrite with both ends outside at your meter. Yes, I know it shouldn't work.

I tried a few things. Loops through the center, a basic coil, a bifilar or two, and a screwdriver. Several of them got really hot, but didn't put any power on a load. Some did not get nearly as warm, but still no power on the load.

I'm starting to wonder if this is a MASER or EASER of sorts, and we are getting a very intense bit of HF out. It stands to reason that we will need an antenna tuned to whatever frequency the ferrite is spitting out. Properly tuned, and you get power, poorly tuned, and you get heat. That is of course wild a$$ speculation...but...I feel like I am getting more heat than I should be for the amount of input power...even when there is no load. That points to some kind of very short wavelength standing wave.

broli · « **Reply #4099 on:** October 08, 2010, 05:54:28 PM »

I have yet to order some good ferrite as the one suggested here vanished from ebay. But what I think cosmo is trying to tell us with the "simple" experiment is;

Ferrite becomes electromagnet when powered by DC coil and thus holding a magnet near it will have no effect.

Now when the mysterious frequency or high voltage amplitude is hit the ferrite could loose some of its magnetization and thus its fields goes weaker. This effect could be felt by a magnet nearby.

Either he's saying it's a specific frequency depending on setup parameters or not. The point is to feel the magnet buzzing, the stronger the buzz the closer you are to the correct frequency and or voltage and or spark gap. Just my interpretation.

PS: Could someone recommend a place where to get some of these ferrite ring cores.

dllabarre · « **Reply #4100 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:07:15 PM »

Quote from: cosmoLV on October 08, 2010, 09:22:24 AM

it changes his properties of magnetic field - i repeat again, put near ferrite setup a magnet and listen what you are hear with HV and without HV...

I turn on LV and when I add the magnet near the end of the ferrite WITHOUT HV it just increases the magnetic strength of my ferrite core.

When I turn on HV I hear a high pitch sound - not very loud but I can detect it.
I turn HV on/off and I can hear/not hear the high pitch sound.
I have to put my ear close to the coil and listen closely but it is there.

DonL

LtBolo · « **Reply #4101 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:38:29 PM »

Quote from: broli on October 08, 2010, 05:54:28 PM

The point is to feel the magnet buzzing, the stronger the buzz the closer you are to the correct frequency and or voltage and or spark gap. Just my interpretation.

I don't think it is that complicated. A high energy discharge sends an intense magnetic or electric or scalar or who-knows-what wave into the ferrite, which causes the ferrite to atomically resonate at whatever frequency the ferrite chooses. While resonating, the ferrite's permeability goes to nothing and refuses to pass a magnetic field, which causes a very sharp change from a super intense field due to the spark, to virtually nothing due to the resonant saturation. The result of that is a super intense pulse that appears to be concentrated at the center of the ferrite toroid.

It is becoming increasingly clear to me that the pulse is OU. The challenge is how to capture that energy and get it into usable form...so far everything just melts.

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #4102 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:44:23 PM »

According to Don L it is recommended to use a step down transformer in order to use the energy after it pass through a full rectifier.

Look at the third schematic of the composition here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg259947#msg259947

Jesus

broli · « **Reply #4103 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:47:52 PM »

Quote from: LtBolo on October 08, 2010, 06:38:29 PM

I don't think it is that complicated. A high energy discharge sends an intense magnetic or electric or scalar or who-knows-what wave into the ferrite, which causes the ferrite to atomically resonate at whatever frequency the ferrite chooses. While resonating, the ferrite's permeability goes to nothing and refuses to pass a magnetic field, which causes a very sharp change from a super intense field due to the spark, to virtually nothing due to the resonant saturation. The result of that is a super intense pulse that appears to be concentrated at the center of the ferrite toroid.

It is becoming increasingly clear to me that the pulse is OU. The challenge is how to capture that energy and get it into usable form...so far everything just melts.

Yes but at that point you are already among the "lucky" ones. As quite a few people see no such effect when striking the ferrite with a HV coil. The ferrite doesn't react at all for them.

LtBolo · « **Reply #4104 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:53:28 PM »

Lucky? No.

Everyone pretty much blew me off when I talked about the type and intensity of my spark. The quiet sparks every seems happy with don't give me that effect. You are ringing a bell...the clapper needs to be the proper size for the bell you are ringing.

It may be that with better understanding, the spark intensity can be reduced...but so far...loud spark, good results...quiet spark, no results. Take it for what it's worth.

broli · « **Reply #4105 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:59:37 PM »

Quote from: LtBolo on October 08, 2010, 06:53:28 PM

Lucky? No.

Everyone pretty much blew me off when I talked about the type and intensity of my spark.

In the name of everyone, I apologize for it.

LtBolo · « **Reply #4106 on:** October 08, 2010, 07:11:34 PM »

I wasn't offended, but thank you. Just pointing out why I may be having different results than others, and more importantly, trying to explain the effect we are all seeking.

I'm not excited (no pun intended) by the intensity of the excitation spark, but so far, it is the only thing that works for me. It may be that increased capacitance will make it possible to get sufficient energy into the coil without the spark being quite so high voltage...which could in turn reduce the apparent intensity. If this is simply a matter of getting a certain number of joules into the coil in a very short period, I'm sure there is more than one way to do that. Very high voltage and very low capacitance does it easily...but dang those 1" blue arcs are loud.

broli · « **Reply #4107 on:** October 08, 2010, 07:22:24 PM »

Quote from: LtBolo on October 08, 2010, 07:11:34 PM

I wasn't offended, but thank you. Just pointing out why I may be having different results than others, and more importantly, trying to explain the effect we are all seeking.

I'm not excited (no pun intended) by the intensity of the excitation spark, but so far, it is the only thing that works for me. It may be that increased capacitance will make it possible to get sufficient energy into the coil without the spark being quite so high voltage...which could in turn reduce the apparent intensity. If this is simply a matter of getting a certain number of joules into the coil in a very short period, I'm sure there is more than one way to do that. Very high voltage and very low capacitance does it easily...but dang those 1" blue arcs are loud.

cosmo talks about 3000V being enough. This is in the range of diode breakdown voltage. Perhaps it's possible to replace the sparkgap by two diodes back to back or front to front. I think such a single component is also called a DIAC.

LtBolo · « **Reply #4108 on:** October 08, 2010, 08:06:02 PM »

Quote from: broli on October 08, 2010, 07:22:24 PM

cosmo talks about 3000V being enough. This is in the range of diode breakdown voltage. Perhaps it's possible to replace the sparkgap by two diodes back to back or front to front. I think such a single component is also called a DIAC.

I honestly don't think that it is so much about voltage, at least not directly. I think it is more an issue of delivering a minimum amount of energy within a short enough period of time. What that minimum energy is and how short that period is, I really don't have a grasp on yet. I'm guessing that the energy will be a function of the type of material and mass of material...again, think bell. I can push the bell and deliver huge amounts of energy moving it back and forth...but it doesn't ring. Or I can strike the bell with far less energy...and it will ring. Even when striking it, I can have a lightweight clapper at very high speed, or a heavy clapper at much slower speed. In this analogy, voltage is speed and the amount of charge is weight.

Without a good sense of what the ferrite's resonant frequency actually is, it is somewhat difficult to gauge how fast the discharge needs to be at a minimum. In any case, I'm pretty sure faster will always be better than slower...which points to higher voltage being better. Whether 3kv ends up being the minimum threshold or not, I wouldn't know. I don't think we've tried anything below about 7kv. I am pretty certain that 100kv without enough total energy won't be enough, and there is some lower voltage threshold below which no amount of energy will be enough.

dllabarre · « **Reply #4109 on:** October 08, 2010, 08:08:41 PM »

Quote from: dllabarre on October 08, 2010, 06:07:15 PM

I turn on LV and when I add the magnet near the end of the ferrite WITHOUT HV it just increases the magnetic strength of my ferrite core.

When I turn on HV I hear a high pitch sound - not very loud but I can detect it.
I turn HV on/off and I can hear/not hear the high pitch sound.
I have to put my ear close to the coil and listen closely but it is there.

DonL

I got out the 10kV transformer and used it on the HV side.
It almost completely killed the magnetic field.
The compass just barely moves.
The spark gap was so loud I couldn't hear any change in pitch.

So someplace between 2kV and 10kV is a good number.
Cosmo said 4kV is enough and it appears he correct again!

DonL

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