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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407752 times)

mondocata

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #240 on: July 06, 2009, 10:20:28 PM »
ummm, an off topic question:

how do you report spammers here ?
like that post by mondocata .


I apologize for this inconvenience but i'm not a spam! I'm really interesting in this subject about free energy devices from Tariel Kapanadze
But nothing. I do not disturbe anymore!

Groundloop

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #241 on: July 06, 2009, 10:39:03 PM »
@xenomorphlabs,

For me the coil in the picture is very similar to a Tesla coil. It has the same loose
coupling few turn coil on the outside. Well, I guess we just have to start building
and see where it leads us.

@mondocata,

Welcome to the forum.

Groundloop.

HeairBear

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #242 on: July 06, 2009, 10:45:11 PM »
Maybe something similar to this?
http://www.youtube.com/user/tortuga0303

Even though he is demonstrating single wire transmission, it falls on the same principals. Transmitting and receiving Tesla coils on the same core?

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #243 on: July 06, 2009, 10:50:19 PM »

For me the coil in the picture is very similar to a Tesla coil. It has the same loose
coupling few turn coil on the outside. Well, I guess we just have to start building
and see where it leads us.


You are right, theory alone wont enlighten us hehe.
May i ask you out of which material you soldered together that spark gap in this photo ?: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7679.0;attach=35645

How many mm is the gap ? 1 mm ?

lltfdaniel1

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #244 on: July 06, 2009, 10:52:06 PM »
Lets put it this way, we are dealing with static and ions, as you may or may not know pyramids deals with this sort of area but try to view it as this.

If you have seen the earth battery experiments, whoever that was did get electric!

A scientist dealing with pyramids describes it as esd impluses and the video with the comment with someone who knows russian said that it deals with teslas whatever and tesla knew of these ions so to speak.

Just to clear that up and you can get electric from organic stuff like trees etc, and the russians know it can accelrate the growth of plants and other stuff.

You obviously have got to know your materials and such and not to be rude but it is alot better to see the whole picture so that you may be able to understand what these mystery parts are and for what reason he used them for and as far as i understand i do believe you can convert this into usable electric so i'll leave that here.

Anyways whoever builds this..keep it inexpensive and experiement and tinker within reason.

BEP

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #245 on: July 06, 2009, 11:11:19 PM »
Maybe it is the usage of the same core that synchronizes two resonant circuits? (can be BS, just brainstorming)

Whether or not this fact has anything to do with this device or not.... Here goes:

If there is one core for two or more oscillators any pulse will have an effect upon the other oscillators. Where this is seen best, even without a common core, is when you have two or more blocking oscillators close to each other.
Blocking oscillators tend to 'try to' synchronize with nearby signals. They are also very good at producing harmonics of nearby signals if they cannot reach the fundamental of the root signal.

I like these little beasties because you can have two or more, with close but not exact coil specs, fighting over what the frequency should be. You wind up with a frequency modulated signal. More techy description would be 'Van der Pol' system. My favorite because is uses the words 'non conservative' in the description.  :)

Since this type of oscillator can be very 'spiky' it may be a good choice for experiments. They are not known for stability unless they are synchronizing with a stable signal.

And they are very simple.

So far, I don't see any indication the above circuit is used here but it is one that is interesting when on a common core or common alignment with air core coils.


lltfdaniel1

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #246 on: July 06, 2009, 11:16:56 PM »
Here is something for you guys to study and to be able to compare this to this topic.

I'll get the russian one.

Groundloop

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #247 on: July 06, 2009, 11:30:57 PM »
@xenomorphlabs,

The material is 2mm enameled copper wire.
The middle wire is not connected to anything.
The space is approx. 1/2 mm between each wire end.

Groundloop.

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #248 on: July 07, 2009, 01:56:14 AM »
A lecture of Donald Smith : http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/
Many think of him as fake, but maybe the principles covered help some people to understand kapanadze´s experiments better, if one approaches the information covered unprejudical.

PDF : http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smith.pdf

@Groundloop : Thanks for the info on the SG

electricme

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #249 on: July 07, 2009, 07:14:03 AM »
@Mr_Video

ummm, an off topic question:

how do you report spammers here ?
like that post by mondocata .


Just in case the spammer hasn't been dealt with, I think you will find Stefan may be a bit busy, if you PM  Pirate88179, (Bill) he is able to take care of the spammer.

It was Bill who started this thread, and Bill has privileges, hence his Green stars. ;D

jim

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #250 on: July 07, 2009, 09:26:05 AM »
Hi everybody ;)

I think someone will kill me for this post, but I'll give a try. What I'm sure - my intentions are good :)

The real challenge is all the unknown factors of the inventors circuit. Even if
you know the winding ratio of an transformer there is still unknowns, for example,
the type and size of the core used.
Lets pretend you think that you know the circut but there still no resonance. Who you blame? Gap, circuit, secondary coil, load, etc?

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Tesla coils looks simple enough but there is many design features that must be right for the coil to work. The input tank (L*C) and spark gap must be adjusted so that the output coil will resonate. It is also, as you say, a problem with load. If you load the coil too much the output coil will no longer resonate with the input coil circuit.

So to be able to get this working we also need a high voltage regulator. I posted one way to do that earlier in this thread. (untested circuit.)

The biggest challenge is to find out what is "inside" the inventors mind. How the circuit work and the theory behind it.

You are killing the faith in me :) You sound like you don't know what you are looking for. This your post reflected the whole discussion in this topic.
As for inventors - they are different thinking people (that why they are inventors) and you will never find out what they were thinking when they invented one or other thing.

Sorry if I'm that 100th person who starts such flame (not on you Groundloop), but as I read this post by post it seems that there is no directed activity in doing things. There is so much interesting ideas, facts and thoughts and for me - it is good start, but it looks like everybody just tries to replicate something that somebody already done with possibly positive results without knowing that for sure. It is quite easy to predict the result. It is like looking for a black cat in the large room with open doors and windows not knowing if it is there or not. And everybody doing it in it's own room. Maybe we should close all doors and windows for a start and invite everybody to the same room? :)

I'm really interested in building my own Tesla coil, and will try to start this, but what I'm doing - is entering my own dark room... Some tomes it is even more interesting, but... You are much smarter than I am, and most of you have knowledge in electronics, physics and math. Is there some formula based background, that we could try to calculate before we start building the device, how can we measure frequencies of primary and secondary coils, how to measure changes if we add or remove some windings change the gap for discharger, etc? There are so much questions,
that can be answered before the start....


No offence Grounloop, sorry that I used your post as an example. This has nothing to do to you or your thinking and that doesn't mean that you somehow bad or incorrect.
The worst person here is me, because I haven't invested enough to my knowledge and want to get as much as possible in very easy way ;)

BTW, here are some interesting links (I still haven't found part 1):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWRBpz7Nqgc Part 2 (A)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8N0h0p8LAc Part 2 (B)

Regards,
JustasM

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #251 on: July 07, 2009, 09:59:31 AM »
@justasm,

It was not my intention to kill any spirit. Now, English is not my first language so it
is time consuming for me to make long posts. I will try to keep my posts short and to
the point.

Regarding Tesla coils, there is tons of website covering the design of such coils.
Many of the web sites has all the math needed also.

Groundloop.

justasm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #252 on: July 07, 2009, 10:11:35 AM »
@ Groundloop

About the spirit - it was a joke, and sorry if I said something, that offended you. I didn't mean that.

Regards,
JustasM

lltfdaniel1

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #253 on: July 07, 2009, 10:31:13 AM »
Lets put it this way to keep the spirit up.

People who build these devices have to work with the principles being whoever.

I have been influenceing people and even german scientists to post there stuff about zpe and why it is so, even if you did not know that because with my influence i know what people are thinking and i know what you are thinking so i try to swing it so whoever is reading this is on the same page or near it.

I posted the pdf about the pyramid by peter grandics and that also uses transformers which have to be tuned so to speak and this also deals with that basically.

The reason why i am influenceing german scientists is because they have the balls to come out and say that this is wrong and that we basically find it to be incorrect and i thank that person for shareing what he has etc.

Groundloop

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #254 on: July 07, 2009, 10:36:37 AM »
@justasm,

OK. :-) I was an fisher man in my young days and is not easy offended. LOL

But you have a good point. We need to work together to be able to solve this.

Groundloop.