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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13694971 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8700 on: November 13, 2011, 08:18:43 PM »
so what you are saying is that the 47.85 Khz sine wave signal seen in the screen shot is really only 1/8th of the whole 382Khz (sine wave) signal, ... ?

No, you are seeing the full waveform. Actually 8 cycles of it between the two vertical dashed black lines.

Apparently you are confused because you wrongly interpret the " 1/dt: 47.85kHz " at the bottom of the oscillogram, as the time reciprocal of one horizontal division (horizontal distance between vertical grey solid lines) when in reality it is the time reciprocal between the two vertical dashed black lines.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8702 on: November 13, 2011, 09:29:56 PM »
@ Wattsup:

I am sorry for your loss.

White noise is all of the frequencies of sound that we can hear played at the same time.  To most, it sounds a lot like the ocean or a radio tuned between stations.  I am sure there are better explanations than this but this is a simple one.

Bill

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8702 on: November 13, 2011, 09:29:56 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8703 on: November 13, 2011, 09:43:58 PM »

Thanks verpies and T-1000 for clearing that up, i should have known better, so much for interpreting someone else his equipment :-( .

So we really are looking at a 382 Khz resonance frequency.

Luckely i did not finish my 50 turn coil, so i will wind it for 382 Khz natural resonance.

However, still struggling with the hunting for ferrite resonance using my new copper strips and new 15 turn coil,

see the video here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdFTiuN34OA

Copper strip measures:  10 pF (when not connected yet)
                                  5 uH (when connected)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8704 on: November 13, 2011, 09:58:28 PM »
However, still struggling with the hunting for ferrite resonance using my new copper strips and new 15 turn coil,

Try pinging the copper strips with a sharp rectangular pulses of low frequency (e.g. 20Hz) and observe the high frequency ringing on an oscilloscope connected to the 15-turn or 50-turn winding (the latter will gave a higher amplitude). See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringing_%28signal%29

The ringing frequency represents the resonance frequency of the stimulated element.

It is important that the rectangular pulse is sharp (has short rise and fall time) and has high amplitude. The ringing will immediately follow the overshoot and undershoot. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overshoot_%28signal%29

It is important that both of the ferrite halves are put together. (don't do it with just one ferrite half).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8705 on: November 13, 2011, 10:05:08 PM »
@ Wattsup:

I am sorry for your loss.

White noise is all of the frequencies of sound that we can hear played at the same time.  To most, it sounds a lot like the ocean or a radio tuned between stations.  I am sure there are better explanations than this but this is a simple one.

Bill

just listen to the sound of a waterfall.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJCpgVc-8n8

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8706 on: November 13, 2011, 10:09:19 PM »
Try pinging the copper strips with a sharp rectangular pulses of low frequency (e.g. 20Hz) and observe the high frequency ringing on oscilloscope connected to the 15-turn or 50-turn winding (the latter will gave a higher amplitude). See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringing_%28signal%29

It is important that the rectangular pulse is sharp (has short rise and fall time). The ringing will immediately follow the overshoot and undershoot. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overshoot_%28signal%29

It is important that both of the ferrite halves are put together. (don't do it with just one ferrite half).

Also do not glue ferrite pieces together. We just did find out another obstacle when tried this on another ferrite deflection yoke today.
If you put white noise into copper plates, you should see sharp rises on spectrum analizer for ringing points.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8707 on: November 13, 2011, 10:43:11 PM »
just listen to the sound of a waterfall.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJCpgVc-8n8

Exactly!  Great example.  Very peaceful too.

Bill

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8708 on: November 13, 2011, 10:55:30 PM »
Also do not glue ferrite pieces together.

I agree, the ferrite halves should be joined together but not glued together.
Preferably joined with a minimal air gap (paper gap) just like on the inventor's working device.

That ferrites should not be constrained has been known for a long time. 
See the 2nd page of the document below (look for the phrase "ferrite bead gotcha"):
http://www.epanorama.net/sff/Power%20Electronics/Uninterruptible_Power_Supplies/Shields%20and%20Sheilding.pdf

@itsu
Do not be so quick to reach the conclusion that you are seeing the resonance of the LF 15turn coil.
Wind the other HF 50-turn coil and compare the frequency peaks between these two coils when they just feed the scope probe.

RLC circuits practically do not resonate when no current flows in them (when resistance (R) is very high) and your scope probe has R in the mega ohm range. 
However, an inductor/coil shorted by a low ESR capacitor is a wholly different story (even if the the capacitor has only several picofarads)...
« Last Edit: November 13, 2011, 11:46:02 PM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8709 on: November 13, 2011, 11:03:22 PM »
Do not be so quick to reach the conclusion that you are seeing the resonance of the LF 15turn coil.
Wind the other HF 50-turn coil and compare the frequency peaks between these two coils.
You need to have all coils prepared and both halves of ferrite yoke to be together for tuning process.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8710 on: November 13, 2011, 11:56:20 PM »
This method will not result in OU.

Just shows...shouting from the rooftops "OU OU!!!" does not result in OU...only people looking like buffoons.  Funny...I thought it was 15w in and 150watts out???!.  Obviously not (as previously stated).  Just imagine..all that SUPPOSED OU and you still can't self run a light.  At some stage be honest with yourself and let the evidence smack some sense into you!!

Time to take that video down off the home page also Stefan.  It slows the site and its downright annoying listening to it.

As Cosmo stated....Wesley has no idea.  This method has nothing to do with kapanadze and you are seeing an illusion of OU only.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8711 on: November 14, 2011, 12:46:20 AM »
I agree, the ferrite halves should be joined together but not glued together.
Preferably joined with a minimal air gap (paper gap) just like on the inventor's working device.

That ferrites should not be constrained has been known for a long time. 
See the 2nd page of the document below (look for the phrase "ferrite bead gotcha"):
http://www.epanorama.net/sff/Power%20Electronics/Uninterruptible_Power_Supplies/Shields%20and%20Sheilding.pdf

@itsu
Do not be so quick to reach the conclusion that you are seeing the resonance of the LF 15turn coil.
Wind the other HF 50-turn coil and compare the frequency peaks between these two coils when they just feed the scope probe.

RLC circuits practically do not resonate when no current flows in them (when resistance (R) is very high) and your scope probe has R in the mega ohm range. 
However, an inductor/coil shorted by a low ESR capacitor is a wholly different story (even if the the capacitor has only several picofarads)...

Stimulating thinking Verpie.

It made me take a look at o-scopes probes composition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_probe
Probes as the article say have a large resistance but this is shunted by a capacitance. So indeed a current will flow.

Then took measurements of mine o-scope. (old Hitachi V-212)
Probe either in x1 or x10 shows an infinity (above 20M) resistance either working or not, whereas it has some x1 90pf and at x10 15pf capacitance.

So in measuring any RLC circuit, i would personally connect o-scope at x 10 probe mode (compansating with adjustments) and taking into consideration that 15pf capacitance (in my case) added to the examined circuit. Avoid the x1 probe due to huge capacitance.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8712 on: November 14, 2011, 01:12:33 AM »
I have been super busy the last 4-5 days and had no real chance to keep up to date with this, however I think I now understand why T-1000, Wesley and others are giving great detail on some things such as basic construction of the transformer and tuning.

And why they hadn't given (at least hadn't when I stopped reading) any real info on what else is required.

They want us to not know how to build the circuit so we have to try lots of stuff to see what works, and in the proccess improve on the design.

I think they aren't interested in straight reproduction, they want experimentation.

At least this is the most positive spin I can put on such curious partial disclosure.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8713 on: November 14, 2011, 04:44:37 AM »
hmmmm it seems that i smell some hopeless direction here  ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8714 on: November 14, 2011, 09:08:00 AM »
Please explain what "bucking mode (back-to-back serial opposing)" and "serial reinforcing mode" mean.
Hi.
I guess, a good (at least a partial one) explanation is here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2300.msg221623#msg221623

"...WHEN TWO TRANSFORMERS ARE OUT OF PHASE WITH EACH OTHER THE SIGNAL IS CANCELLED   
, or when they are connected in reverse of one another. (Actually when one FREQUENCY is in reverse of another!  INVERTED!)Then you can measure all kinds of things going on.
You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds.
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally..."

 

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