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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13685206 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8670 on: November 12, 2011, 09:51:48 PM »
I believe I have made an important correlation from a Youtube I saw where a torrid coil lighting a lamp could be switched on or off by using two magnets 180 degrees apart.  If both magnets were in N-N and S-S configuration then the lamp was off.  The magnets were place on top of the Tcoil, facing  toward the circumference of the coil.
Therefore when your making any coil perhaps you can magnetically cut the spool wire out of the circuit as to make it possible to measure the coils characteristics up to the point you have wound (but not physically so you can make adjustments to coil later if you need more or less winds.)  This method will help us tune any coil on the build (fly) easily.  So if you want to temporarily fake taking the spool wire out of the circuit try two neo magnets with the poles facing each other (you may have to place the magnets at where you think you want to cut the wire and the end of the spool or maybe the assumed cut area and a few inches toward the spool.  Hope this works like I believe it to, someone check this out and inform the rest of us please.  Good luck all.    AND if you need to change a phase of a signal use an isolation transformer and inject it at one side of the primary and take it from either the other side of the primary or the side you need from the secondary.  You can make a sider with a C- CLAMP (you can figure out how to mount the pick) to take it from ANY point along the windings to make your phases meet how you want in the colliding wave front.  This will keep your FG safe.

Still waiting on ground mail delivery of my PCSU1000.

Edited a couple times for readability and specifics.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2011, 10:13:06 PM by Hope »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8671 on: November 12, 2011, 10:17:48 PM »
Still waiting on ground mail delivery of my PCSU1000.

You will also need to order probe 1:1000 from different vendor then adjust it.... :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8672 on: November 12, 2011, 10:21:08 PM »

@Mannix

Can you re-do your last post experiment but this time when you have both FG -/+ on the copper strip, try removing the negative and see what happens with only one wire pulsing and sweep for frequencies. I am thinking that maybe the HV does not need a spark gap and one wire only would do the trick. This would really lower the flyback energy consumption as all you really need is for the HV to act on the core. It is as if the HV on the copper strip is analog to a degaussing coil that is quickly resetting or biasing the core ions or atoms for the greatest core movement when the two primaries give their respective impulses. Don't know really but it is very interesting.

@all

My next tests will be with two and three frequencies. This is really where the fun starts.

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Ahha!  the HV is like the rain fall and the coil is like a unsaturated sponge (so to speak).  That's a brilliant thought Mr.!

So perhaps the copper strip is squeezing the pathway of the yoke coil windings magnetically causing a electrical friction as in two clouds meeting and causing lighting.   

Richard

Edited yet again!

SO if we replace the HV with instead a large ground plane antenna we might gain external wavelengths fast enough to preclude the use of HV?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8673 on: November 12, 2011, 11:17:34 PM »
A hand of help to tinkerers.

I would like T-1000 and team to work out some ways for eliminating the FGs, thus having a stand alone with trust worthy power measurements device.

....
Addressing the HV cap issue
...

I was trying to address the issue of HV variable capacitor in a cheap way. (see photo) I took one small two gang varicap and tried to emerge it in high quality transformer oil.
I was estimating at getting a variable cap 20-500pf at 5Kv or so.

The whole poject failed due to the effect that if oil gets between the cap plates (0.1mm apart) the plates stucked like being glued together! The principle of Tesla turbine in its whole glory... Anyway, cap was destroyed by forcing it to turn, but lesson taken. :)

I have been able to address this problem, and anyone can, by having a variable inductance made of ferrite rod and wire able at handling the estimated amperage at the those (1-2 Mhz) frequency. Not hard task even for having great accuracy.


Adressing the HV probe
...
A tested and easy way for this is to create a voltage devider of your own. I assemble two resistors, making a voltage divider 1:25 namely onw 2w 850K and one 34 K some 5 w each. I manage to measure accurately (from a custom HV inverter) some 4,4 KV p-p. This way i can measure as much as i like!

Important Note: Attach voltage divider so as the measurements to be taken at the "cold" end of the circuit and not the hot end one (not in the HV standing wave). In other words, high ohm resisstance end of the divider goes to "hot lead" and lower ohm resistance to "cold" lead. Apply o-scope probes at end of low resistance.

Important to uphold this procedure. I would not held responsible if you burn out your scope otherwise :P


I hope someones finds those useful
« Last Edit: November 13, 2011, 10:21:52 AM by baroutologos »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8674 on: November 13, 2011, 12:25:30 AM »
First, destroying your air cap is regrettable, you can make a new one by following my DIY link just a few of my comments back.  Secondly, for making a HV air cap. (tuner) one  STILL AIR TYPE make the plates much further apart   I would make the housing out of plastic or Bakelite.   Knitting needles for shafts and thinking what is critical is to have spacing adjustable PLATES of sufficient size to hold a tuned charge.  Goldmine electronics sells a HV 4Kv transformer with NO DIODES you can source one easy and at Instructables.com you can get the instructions and parts list to make a HV Probe safety AND all sorts of items you will need or build cheaply. 

I would think you should increase the physical scale of the air cap tuner proportionally until it meets the voltage requirements.  Like if the original was 5 inches long and 4 inches wide and 4 inches high and was a 50v unit then possibly a 5KV unit will  have to be 30 inches long and 20 inches wide and so forth   seek dimensions on a new one on the net somewhere to get in the ballpark on size.  There are lots of circuits available at that DIY site. FREE!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8675 on: November 13, 2011, 01:17:50 AM »
Stivep (wesley) stop foolish people! It is Tiger device with Yoki of USSR TV set that he build since 22 Jan 2011/ You and others from your band in that time dosnt even dreams about this device! There is pics from video from Russian forums where Tiger (Kazakstan) did show his device.
A have attached a schematics of this device which Tiger send me yesterday. People - use this instead of othres not relieble "replicators of Tiger devices". I should repead ones more - this is NOT REPLICANT OF TARIEL KAPANADZE!!!!! 
Name of this Devices - Reactor #2 from Tiger 22_01_2011/

God Bless Tiger!
PS I can easyly prove that device with Tv yoki is  Tigers device and his name is not Aidal from Lithuania! I am able to prove that he first time published video and schematic since 22 Jan 2011/ Easy speaks - Tiger is inventor of this device!
@t1000

Here is our proplem. we have language problem that is possibly responsible for the issue

But at last A circuit!!! No component detail but at least we can see and use available components ..and we can see how it might lock to its master . Yet you say it is not good ?

If it is ferroresonsnce then the ferrite , surely is very important

I know that there is a kind of  contest  being stirred up I /WE  the replicators do not care , in fact it raises red flags (an english term)
Please I ask 2 basic things (again)to be able to contribute more hours myself.
The first one must be  easy



1. Is the ferrite in your working unit conductive?
2. What circuit are you using to drive the 50 turn?





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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8676 on: November 13, 2011, 02:20:22 AM »
I would be more then happy to measure the capacitance of the cooper strips; however, I already put it together and I am now unable to.

But, there is some good news. I still have yet to put the secondary windings on my other half of the yoke. So, I can easily make another copper strip on the CNC machine and measure the capacitance when they are not connected.

If I remember to do this, which I should be able to since I too am wondering what the capacitance is, then I will measure the capacitance of the copper strip before I start winding the secondary (and I will post some pictures of measurements of the yoke, also)
I love your approach CNC...
I have  made the same move like you
This is my  CNC it was really tough for me  financially but I did it ..everything for Lady OU..........
At the background you will see another one   but that is only milling machine with DRO and motorized XY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwGuNLH2hhg

Wesley
PS: till today I did not have much use of it.. Did not get to software writing.. No time for it.


 Rest of the questions I leave for tomorrow. got to go to bed.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8677 on: November 13, 2011, 04:46:56 AM »
A hand of help to tinkerers.

I would like T-1000 and team to work out some ways for eliminating the FGs, thus having a stand alone with trust worthy power measurements device.

....

Addressing the HV cap issue
...

I was trying to address the issue of HV variable capacitor in a cheap way. (see photo) I took one small two gang varicap and tried to emerge it in high quality transformer oil.
I was estimating at getting a variable cap 20-500pf at 5Kv or so.

The whole poject failed due to the effect that if oil gets between the cap plates (0.1mm apart) the plates stucked like being glued together! The principle of Tesla turbine in its whole glory... Anyway, cap was destroyed by forcing it to turn, but lesson taken. :)

I have been able to address this problem, and anyone can, by having a variable inductance made of ferrite rod and wire able at handling the estimated amperage at the those (1-2 Mhz) frequency. Not hard task even for having great accuracy.


Adressing the HV probe
...
A tested and easy way for this is to create a voltage devider of your own. I assemble two resistors, making a voltage divider 1:25 namely onw 2w 850K and one 34 K some 5 w each. I manage to measure accurately (from a custom HV inverter) some 4,4 KV p-p. This way i can measure as much as i like!

I hope someones finds those useful

http://www.orenelliottproducts.com/m73m73a.htm    they sell variable HV air caps up to 11KVrms   you can get some really great thoughts how to fabricate your own from these pictures and drawings WITH dimensions included.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8678 on: November 13, 2011, 04:53:21 AM »
There is no capacitors attached for tuning in beginning, you need to find natural resonant points :) The generator on copper plates and measurements on 15 turns coil.
If you still cannot get sine wave out, you need to change your copper plates width (increase most likely).

Thanks for the quick feedback :). I just want to be clear on a few points. From what you described, my current understanding is that once we find the core frequency, we want all the other coils in the system to resonate at some sub-harmonic of the core frequency?

First, I want to repeat the tuning procedure in my own words to ensure that I have correctly comprehended what you are saying.

1. Find the core frequency by pulsing the copper strip and observing the output on the 15-turn coil and adjust the pulse rate (between 1-2MHz) to see the ferrite core's resonant frequency value, (Fcore).

2. Apply the found value, Fcore, to the copper strip while observing the output on the 50-turn coil. Sweep down from Fcore until the largest amplitude on the 50-turn coil is observed, F50-turn.

3. Apply the frequency F50-turn to the 50-turn coil and measure the response on the bifilar output coil. change F50-turn up and down to obtain the highest voltage output on the bifilar coil. This new frequency is F50-turn(optimal).

4. Add tuning capacitor to copper strip and adjust the LC resonance to match Fcore.

5. Apply 50 Hz sine wave input signal to the 15-turn coil and  add F50-turn(optimal) (square wave) to the 50-Turn coil. Observe the response on the bifilar output coil.

6. Adjust the 50Hz sine wave up and down a bit to maximize the output on the bifilar coil.

7. When adding output load, add tuning capacitor to match output load impedance for maximum power transfer.

Sorry for all the confusion, I just want to be sure I have a rock-solid understanding of the tuning procedure and of what signal inputs go where.

Point #2 is still a bit of a confusion to me. Once we have obtained Fcore from step 1, are we supposed to be looking for lower frequencies on the 50-turn coil that are exact harmonics of Fcore? Or are we simply looking for the highest amplitude natural resonant frequency of the 50-turn coil (with the understanding that we are not adding capacitance, just looking at the natural resonance).

Point #3 is also unclear to me for similar reasons as point 2. Once we find F50-turn, if we sweep it again while observing the bifilar coil's output, wont that mess things up since we found F50-turn to be optimal for the 50-turn coil?

I think there is something here that I am missing but I want you to be clear on how I interpreted your instructions. I would like to give this my best shot and not fail due to misunderstanding the directions :).

Thank you,
Jason O

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8679 on: November 13, 2011, 07:36:48 AM »
There are FREE function generator software and signal generator software available on the net that uses your sound card (I would use it ONLY thru an isolation transformer in case you gain more energy than expected from your device).

You can use a white noise generator to get the resonance of all these coils,  inject the signal then hook up a spectrum analyzer to find the peaked signal (lowest one is fundamental).  This software is free on the net,  repeat free!  Instead of worrying about a complicated phasing system, you can use the secondary of the "isolation" transformer just take off the windings cover and "pick" each wire until you see on the scope the wave form you need making the collision as shown earlier from the AATW group

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« Reply #8680 on: November 13, 2011, 09:59:45 AM »
First, I want to repeat the tuning procedure in my own words to ensure that I have correctly comprehended what you are saying.

Yes, the inventor's description of the tuning procedure is very ungrammatical, unclear and ambiguous.
This is most likely due to the language barrier.
I would like to clear up these points you raised , too.

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« Reply #8681 on: November 13, 2011, 10:05:08 AM »
There are FREE function generator software and signal generator software available on the net that uses your sound card

Sound cards are incapable of outputting frequency needed to drive the Transverse Windings (copper strips) or the HF 50-turn coil. They are useless above 24kHz.

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« Reply #8682 on: November 13, 2011, 10:40:57 AM »
Sound cards are incapable of outputting frequency needed to drive the Transverse Windings (copper strips) or the HF 50-turn coil. They are useless above 24kHz.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8683 on: November 13, 2011, 11:00:05 AM »
@t1000
Here is our proplem. we have language problem that is possibly responsible for the issue
But at last A circuit!!! No component detail but at least we can see and use available components ..and we can see how it might lock to its master . Yet you say it is not good ?
If it is ferroresonsnce then the ferrite , surely is very important
1. Is the ferrite in your working unit conductive?
2. What circuit are you using to drive the 50 turn?
Please check http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/ for frequent updates. Here's what you're looking for: http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/Aidas_SHEMATIC_2.jpg

The deflection yoke ferrite - not sure what you mean with "conductive?"
And the amplifier cascade for generators:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/sustiprinimo_kaskadas.jpg

The generator on 50 turns coil feeds in square wave.
The 15 turns get sine wave of AC ~50Hz.

Thanks for the quick feedback :). I just want to be clear on a few points. From what you described, my current understanding is that once we find the core frequency, we want all the other coils in the system to resonate at some sub-harmonic of the core frequency?
We want 50 turns coil to resonate on sub-harmonic frequency of ferroresonance what is determined after pulsing copper plates -> 15 turns coil output. So it will be in sync with main resonant frequency. If you apply applying sub-harmonic frequency to copper plates just for testing, you will still see sinus wave out on 15 turns coil and you will still see ferroresoant main frequency as maximum peak over spectrum analizer.

First, I want to repeat the tuning procedure in my own words to ensure that I have correctly comprehended what you are saying.

1. Find the core frequency by pulsing the copper strip and observing the output on the 15-turn coil and adjust the pulse rate (between 1-2MHz) to see the ferrite core's resonant frequency value, (Fcore).

2. Apply the found value, Fcore, to the copper strip while observing the output on the 50-turn coil. Sweep down from Fcore until the largest amplitude on the 50-turn coil is observed, F50-turn.

3. Apply the frequency F50-turn to the 50-turn coil and measure the response on the bifilar output coil. change F50-turn up and down to obtain the highest voltage output on the bifilar coil. This new frequency is F50-turn(optimal).

4. Add tuning capacitor to copper strip and adjust the LC resonance to match Fcore.

5. Apply 50 Hz sine wave input signal to the 15-turn coil and  add F50-turn(optimal) (square wave) to the 50-Turn coil. Observe the response on the bifilar output coil.

6. Adjust the 50Hz sine wave up and down a bit to maximize the output on the bifilar coil.

7. When adding output load, add tuning capacitor to match output load impedance for maximum power transfer.

Sorry for all the confusion, I just want to be sure I have a rock-solid understanding of the tuning procedure and of what signal inputs go where.

Point #2 is still a bit of a confusion to me. Once we have obtained Fcore from step 1, are we supposed to be looking for lower frequencies on the 50-turn coil that are exact harmonics of Fcore? Or are we simply looking for the highest amplitude natural resonant frequency of the 50-turn coil (with the understanding that we are not adding capacitance, just looking at the natural resonance).

Point #3 is also unclear to me for similar reasons as point 2. Once we find F50-turn, if we sweep it again while observing the bifilar coil's output, wont that mess things up since we found F50-turn to be optimal for the 50-turn coil?
The instructions seem to be almost correct.

Point #2 - we want to find maximum amplitude and sub-harmonic around 1/3 of the Fcore frequency while the Fcore is applied to copper plates and is not being changed. We are dealing with natural resonance, no caps ballast added. And the the side note - if you have too small / too large copper plates on the core, you won't find any significant sub-harmonic peaks inside of main wave.

Point #3 - When you apply F50-turn square wave to 50 turns coil you expect sinus wave on output of the bifilar coil. Then slightly adjust for maximum wave amplitude on output. This will be correct F50-turn then. Also it does not mess up with Fcore frequency when you attach and tune varicap on copper plates to Fcore frequency - the output on the bifilar coil increase even more.

Hopefully it will help to replicate :)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8684 on: November 13, 2011, 11:01:56 AM »
First, I want to repeat the tuning procedure in my own words to ensure that I have correctly comprehended what you are saying.

1. Find the core frequency...

Thank you,
Jason O

Personally Jason, i have not been conviced that the peak observed at 51 turns coil around 1.64 Mhz measured in the 51 turns coil (not in the 15 turns one as you say and being described in steps 1-3 at the Lithanian site) corresponds to any core ringing frequency and not in the 51turns fundamental LC frequency.

Not having personal experience so far, i can reasonably see that if any 50 turns coil (in closed yoke with paper spacer congiguration) has any 200-300uH inductance (as you suggested and other people as well) and the spectrum analyzer or o-scope + interwinding capacitance goes around 20-40pf then 1.3 to 2 Mhz fundamental ringing correspond to LC ringing frequency rather any NMR ferrite core frequency..

According my view, this problem will be clarified by a probe coil Lp 2-3 turns around ferrite yoke. (since its own fundamental LC frequency will be considerable higher than 1-2 Mhz range) if again it shows by whiting noise the copper strip, that exists a 1.6 MHz frequency peak or so, the it must be a particular ferrite frequency. If not, then there is not any.

Plain as that :)

 

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