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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14760100 times)

Offline energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8055 on: October 27, 2011, 08:20:28 PM »
Hi Forest: I don’t know what permeability would be required for the toroid people here are talking about, but here is a useful video : ¨DIY Iron Powder Toroids or Bars with Nanoparticles¨ (made by Bruce – an OU poster), (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnY1Zbi7sgM&list=FLrKwxUtXqGlAZcxM56gVSww&feature=mh_lolz)

I hope this may help

Viny

i have made so many iron powdered parts... they surely have a low eddy loss, you have to attach magnets to the still malleable magnetite+polyester resin mixture, the particles will combine this way, they can be magnetized very fast, but their magnetization strenght is not as good as of ferrites.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8056 on: October 27, 2011, 08:21:24 PM »
ferrite produced in 1983 from the old Tube TV
i have got one of this ferrites right here sitting front of me :) hehe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8057 on: October 27, 2011, 09:21:16 PM »
Aidas

Thank you for information.I'm using the same type of ferrite from old TV tube , synchronization coil.I was however lucky to find not segmented one. For my purpose it's however quite bad because you cannot wind tight coil around it due to different diameters.I hope for your device it is fine but mine is much more complex.I'm looking for something like this but with both diameters (upper and lower) the same.Elevation is important.
Do you know what ferrite type is this core ? Is that suitable for Mhz range ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8058 on: October 27, 2011, 10:18:06 PM »
Aidas

Thank you for information.I'm using the same type of ferrite from old TV tube , synchronization coil.I was however lucky to find not segmented one. For my purpose it's however quite bad because you cannot wind tight coil around it due to different diameters.I hope for your device it is fine but mine is much more complex.I'm looking for something like this but with both diameters (upper and lower) the same.Elevation is important.
Do you know what ferrite type is this core ? Is that suitable for Mhz range ?

Ferrite from old TV - ОС-90.38ПЦ12 Obviously we do not know what material properties are there. Also i found circuit of one those TV sets: http://km1001.narod.ru/Lapey_web/Lapey.htm

Aidas picked up this ferrite from TV display tube because it has high enough resonant frequency. Lower frequency ones just gone split to pieces after 15-20 mins of usage.


P.S> If someone could analyse this ferrite, it would be very useful to find similar one.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8059 on: October 27, 2011, 10:19:37 PM »
The ferrite shown by @aidas is a yoke ferrite taken off the computer monitor or TV cathode. I had done some good testing with this during the days with @otto. One of mine got so hot it burned permanent marks on my desk. So if you are testing this yoke ferrite to replace the flyback, I will be very interested in the results.

wattsup


Offline energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8060 on: October 28, 2011, 12:46:59 AM »
if i understand correctly,

If we are clever enough,  we could shake atoms of copper and derive energy from it. this way we would not need ferrite.  i understand that magnetic and diamagnetic materials are different, but they all have a point where they vibrate internally.   there was a french guy who could make about 40 watts of power from 1 watts input,  he fed oscillations to a coil  and then polarized a copper rod underneath it with a diode and put a resistor across the positive terminal of the battery and the diode which leads to the copper rod,  i see that this is quite serious..   

So aidas and arunas,   if the device runs,  and you want to take out the ferrite when it runs, as you take it out, lamp gets dim and eventually gets no power at all really,   right??   
Thank you

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8061 on: October 28, 2011, 01:09:39 AM »
So aidas and arunas,   if the device runs,  and you want to take out the ferrite when it runs, as you take it out, lamp gets dim and eventually gets no power at all really,   right??   
Thank you

You might try do same to air core Tesla coil but it would not be so easy.. :)

We are ringing ferrite then hammering it explosively with HV capacitor discharge on right time for standing shockwave so without ferrite core the resonant frequencies would change as air coil ring has different resonance and not so easy way for what we're doing.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8062 on: October 28, 2011, 02:12:22 AM »
General info on ferrite cores:

http://www.intl-magnetics.org/pdfs/SFG-98.pdf

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8063 on: October 28, 2011, 02:18:24 AM »
You might try do same to air core Tesla coil but it would not be so easy.. :)

We are ringing ferrite then hammering it explosively with HV capacitor discharge on right time for standing shockwave so without ferrite core the resonant frequencies would change as air coil ring has different resonance and not so easy way for what we're doing.

Wesley, T-1000, Aidas

I thought this team was duplicating Tariels device?

Tariel didn't use ferrite core in his coil on the Green Box device and he got 22amps on the ground wire going to the bulbs (load).

I don't understand?  ???

DonL


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8064 on: October 28, 2011, 02:21:29 AM »
Wesley, T-1000, Aidas

I thought this team was duplicating Tariels device?

Tariel didn't use ferrite core in his coil on the Green Box device and he got 22amps on the ground wire going to the bulbs (load).

I don't understand?  ???

DonL

Not exactly, we are going on own way with reinventing Nicola Tesla wheel. Obviously most principles match on what you see in TK devices.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8065 on: October 28, 2011, 02:48:27 AM »
Another day with Aidas and Arunas.
14 hours...
I have made coil and  got myself to measurement.
finally we have now at the end of the day properly placed  camera so they can see scope images from all of the devices.Holding  laptop next to the screens and make sure that coil on test does not get dropped down raping all of the wires was not convenient.
 
Conclusion  not all of the ferrite are  working with  this device or different winding has to be used.
Aidas has broken one explosive fashion but  the other is still holding without any visible effect on the ferrite.
At the  end of the day we have got a lot of new experience but I was not able to tune 50Hz+/- whatever...
Another resonances I was able to achieve.
Concept is to connect to 50winds coil  one generator tune frequency to max of voltage at caduceus.
-than take 15winds coil and put on it 50Hz+/- than amplitude should rise  even more.
-than put the spark on  copper wind along half of the ferrite ring.
Even if you try one single  spark you  should see immediate amplification as the spark contains  spectrum of frequencies inside.

Yes I have got amplification but.... I tuned 15 winds coil( in my case 16)
to exactly the same frequency as the 50winds( in my case 51)
voltage have been around little less than 1KV

Frequency from generators 220KHz.
Note:
 even if you give 10V from generator that has 50 Ohm impedance because of impedance mismatch( copper flat winding impedance of 2.7 Ohm) than you have loses .
So  High frequency volt meter (323 Ballantine) connected to generator that was producing 20V output show 2.4V effective voltage on the coil.
It there was impedance match than it would be no losses.
That is lesson nr 1.


I have ability to measure precisely impedance of each of the coils at desired frequency.

So another problem is what is the frequency...?
Anuras explained all of the process  before .
note:
 in my particular situation I have been able to fallow the concept with no errors but when it comes to caduceus  later winded on another half of the ferrite than I have noticed that my previously  established frequencies has changed.
So I gave up on it and blindly tuned generator to get the highest voltage.

These are thoughts after today.


Wesley
 


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8067 on: October 28, 2011, 03:11:59 AM »
I see this as quite different from that info because  we are not using the earth/ground

Time and effort will tell us more as we travel this path with hands on  experiments

For instance ...what happens if we have several "source" resonations  at different frequencies?

i'd tune to the difference. but i'm kinda nutz.

take care.

nap

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8068 on: October 28, 2011, 03:51:16 AM »
I might be not right but... :)

Just went through some conventional quantum physics for explanation of effects we are getting and found similarity to http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA02/papers/p1907.pdf
One difference is, we use electricity with resonant frequencies and hammering with HV discharge for even bigger displacement after nuclear spin polarization.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8069 on: October 28, 2011, 04:03:47 AM »
Not exactly, we are going on own way with reinventing Nicola Tesla wheel. Obviously most principles match on what you see in TK devices.

Excellent!    :)
That makes more sense.

Thank you for clearing that up for me.

Back to building my device.....

DonL