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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12066191 times)

Offline Shokac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7110 on: August 28, 2011, 12:37:52 PM »
This is my beta schematics of Kapanadze circuit.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7111 on: August 29, 2011, 04:09:06 AM »
@Shokac:
If you are using a spark gap in the primary what measures do you have in mind to filter the RF noise/harmonics out in the secondary circuit?
Kapanadze's patent indicates filters.
Did you go ahead and simulate your circuit in Spice?
I have a hard time imagining a clean sine wave signal in the secondary with
a spark gap firing away in the primary, but that can be dealt with maybe.
So basically you wanna set up a 50 Hz resonance in the primary that is in phase and locked (Voltage or current ?) with the 50 Hz sine wave signal in the secondary created by inverter/220 V source ?
The general idea sounds good and most importantly is in keeping with what the patent indeed describes.
Symbolized here by using a sine source for the primary:

« Last Edit: August 29, 2011, 05:13:52 AM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7112 on: August 29, 2011, 09:19:58 AM »
This is the only thing you must understand!!!
How to reduce the frequency to be in phase with a secondary ?!?!?!?

Kapanadze says:
First transformer works via spark on 100 kHz and higher. Second - is a power transformer. In the first transformer, we have small capacitor on the primary coil for the high-frequency discharge. On secondary coil (power transformer) we have large capacitor for our high frequency decrease.


I measured the current on the primary coil, which was offset by a Spark-Gap (in another room). I got about 15 amps with a small capacitor in the primary, but at a high frequency.  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7112 on: August 29, 2011, 09:19:58 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7113 on: August 29, 2011, 04:06:21 PM »
So there are 2 transformers or do you mean 2 coils?
Your idea is most likely to work if your 4kV signal being transformed from primary to secondary is already in phase and locked with the secondary 220 Volt signal.
On top of it the phase angle Φ between current and voltage would have to be exactly the same in both circuits.
There is also 2 additional potentials in the secondary (from the coil) in addition to the inverter potentials, which might cause less voltage drop at the load (needs to be tested).

The use of a capacitor in the secondary to convert the 100 kHz frequency signal component into a 50 Hz resonant sine wave signal would indeed require a large cap.
Since Kapanadze successively adds more load to his devices in the demonstrations, it is unlikely that he used that simple method without more circuitry, because the additional load would detune the resonant frequency.

« Last Edit: August 29, 2011, 05:42:40 PM by xenomorphlabs »


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7114 on: August 29, 2011, 06:11:33 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7115 on: August 30, 2011, 01:03:52 PM »
Since Kapanadze successively adds more load to his devices in the demonstrations, it is unlikely that he used that simple method without more circuitry, because the additional load would detune the resonant frequency.

Yes. This is the secret of Kapanadze invetion.

Kapanadze says:
Secret is how to get automatic resonance between the primary and secondary windings.
And says :
This method and some another moments have a very simple solution.
Those who want to succeed it - must think simple and do it simple too.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7116 on: August 30, 2011, 02:55:55 PM »
Yes. This is the secret of Kapanadze invetion.

Kapanadze says:
Secret is how to get automatic resonance between the primary and secondary windings.
And says :
This method and some another moments have a very simple solution.
Those who want to succeed it - must think simple and do it simple too.


Alright :)
Any suggestion on how to achieve this "automatic resonance" ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7116 on: August 30, 2011, 02:55:55 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7117 on: August 30, 2011, 03:23:49 PM »
Alright :)
Any suggestion on how to achieve this "automatic resonance" ?

I try to figure out, but this is only staf that we are missing. :(

May be this help:


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7118 on: August 30, 2011, 03:49:06 PM »
A simple method could maybe be an out-of-the-ordinary back-coupling between primary and secondary.
There was an illustration of unknown origin back in the early Kapanadze hype days around, that depicted some kind of 2 turn sensing coil that would be used in a pic or similar to correct the switching of the primary. If i find it, i'll post it here.

Okay:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg189076#msg189076
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg189134#msg189134

EDIT: Please read the early posts of this thread, this illustration is very crude and just an idea. As it is, it won't work because the mosfet won't switch without gate signal which in turn can only be created when the Mosfet switches.

Kapanadze is fully aware of the fact that the frequency drops under full load.
That's why he referenced this scientific paper here :
http://publica.fraunhofer.de/eprints/urn:nbn:de:0011-n-1322533.pdf
in his patent WO2008103129A1 (second last page)
He wouldn't list it there, if it wasn't playing a central part in his invention.

It vaguely describes frequency correction methods for different load situations.
To realize something like this could be considered relatively simple from a power electronics
engineer's perspective, maybe that's what Kapanadze meant.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 04:14:00 PM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7118 on: August 30, 2011, 03:49:06 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7119 on: August 30, 2011, 08:11:28 PM »
Экспертное заключение DYNATRON...

http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 10:33:45 PM by FreeEnergyInfo »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7120 on: August 30, 2011, 10:22:07 PM »
@Hello to everyone

It's good to see some are still pounding the pavement on this TK device. I think many have given this as much as they have and I really wish to congratulate everyone for all their hard work in getting this device to any level. In the recent past we have seen others come forward with other devices that we found to have fake attributes and had to work hard to bring these to the forefront so guys do not follow a phantom or illusionist. In contrast, TKs video has proven rather unique in that I have not found any basis to say his device is a trick (besides the rudimentary obvious things) and so, I can only summarize that TK is the real deal from the perspective we have today.

But then comes the problem of HOW IT WORKS. We have seen endless diagrams, endless builds, the SR slant, the Russian frenzy, we have seen and read many methods proposed and thus far nothing and no one has come forward to claim any solid technical guidance for others. So this is where we are today, again in a limbo, again having all the human resources that are still expending their life forces to gain a better understanding of a TK device(s).

So I will ask you guys one question that I am convinced when fully answered will provide a good direction for you and others to follow. The question is very simple, or is it. And that is...............

WHAT IS A SPARK GAP AND HOW MANY WAYS CAN IT BE USED?

wattsup

PS: I am convinced the answer is there in the spark gap and TK realized how many ways it can be used and found a way to use it that not only does one thing in particular, but two things, the latter not being well understood.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7120 on: August 30, 2011, 10:22:07 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7121 on: August 30, 2011, 10:57:15 PM »
spark gap = capacitor  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7122 on: August 31, 2011, 12:48:11 AM »
Sorry, I did not resist.
Spark gap = gateway
(Theoretically: To whatever you can imagine, Practically: Still undeveloped)
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7123 on: August 31, 2011, 09:55:48 AM »
NO, NO, NO
Kapanadze Spark gap use for automatic resonance. Spark gap automatic change frequency in RLC circuit.

I tested and proved!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7124 on: August 31, 2011, 10:08:47 AM »
shokac your diagram 7116 is almost spot on, last night I basically fed secondary side of large transformer with 300watt inverter,200watt bulb on each output in series (to protect from hv) and then fed primary with high voltage from nst and variac one side of primary going to earth and one side of NST earthed. Much to my delight bulbs lighting everywhere (8x 100 across secondary winding of transformer) I was able to vary brightness from all off (including the 2 in series of inverter ?) to almost blowing.Had to close spark gap on hv to about 2 thou for best results. I now have to sort out a cheap controllable hv supply and work out if OU etc.All previous attempts at joining two frequencys have failed and ended up with blown bulbs and equipment. Now I have something to work with.Thanks and regards.

 

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