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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16493699 times)

bolt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7020 on: July 14, 2011, 01:57:04 AM »
imho the best example of ferroresonance is VTA by Floyd Sweet.

Yes i agree but both the TPU and VTA are 3 dimensional devices. This means the load to source separation is CUBED as they both operate in the X Y and Z planes. COP typically >1000 to 10,000  so a 500mW watt drive is enough for 5kw.

Coil bangers and other switching systems are simple 2 dimension COP 2 to 10 like MEGS etc This is the simple stuff like dumping to caps and turning off loads at the right time. Bedini and Joule thief's are in essence simple switchers.

In between the two we have high VARS two dimensional non switching non linear systems this is kapanadze and SR etc COP is between 10 to 100.  So 50w i/p give about 5kw o/p.


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« Reply #7021 on: July 14, 2011, 09:41:56 AM »
Yes i agree but both the TPU and VTA are 3 dimensional devices. This means the load to source separation is CUBED as they both operate in the X Y and Z planes. COP typically >1000 to 10,000  so a 500mW watt drive is enough for 5kw.

Agree, but overall output is limited by material properties (overheating due to eddy currents). Even Tesla mentioned (yes,he experimented with iron cores a lot but in secrecy) iron core coated with some heat resistant ceramic shield.

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Coil bangers and other switching systems are simple 2 dimension COP 2 to 10 like MEGS etc This is the simple stuff like dumping to caps and turning off loads at the right time. Bedini and Joule thief's are in essence simple switchers.

In between the two we have high VARS two dimensional non switching non linear systems this is kapanadze and SR etc COP is between 10 to 100.  So 50w i/p give about 5kw o/p.
Non switching ?? I think it was a mistake ? Imho Kapanadze is using capacitor discharge like other switchers, the difference is where he is closing loop .



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7022 on: July 14, 2011, 09:50:18 AM »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7023 on: July 14, 2011, 11:48:53 AM »
http://www.umbrellatech.lv/downloads/index.php

Design Of Device Step 2 final

Cosmo, easy to say "lessons" and say flattering that the truth is yours. My advice just show something working (no fake) before you give us lessons. Thank you.

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Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #7024 on: July 14, 2011, 02:30:44 PM »

Personally, I can use all the 'lessons' I can get.

Thank you cosmo, and all who take the time to help others along in this collective effort we are all participating in.

Regards...


forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7025 on: July 14, 2011, 05:24:34 PM »
you see ? squeezing the hose  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7026 on: July 15, 2011, 03:01:47 PM »
http://www.umbrellatech.lv/downloads/index.php

Design Of Device Step 2 final

FINAL?   >:(

Where's the schematic?
Where's the parts list?
Where's your working model?

DonL

bolt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7027 on: July 16, 2011, 02:25:19 PM »
Agree, but overall output is limited by material properties (overheating due to eddy currents). Even Tesla mentioned (yes,he experimented with iron cores a lot but in secrecy) iron core coated with some heat resistant ceramic shield.
Non switching ?? I think it was a mistake ? Imho Kapanadze is using capacitor discharge like other switchers, the difference is where he is closing loop .

No Switching in Kapanadze Cosmo is on the right path.  The aim is to create a powerful magnetic field using only a HV EXCITER but normally that becomes electrostatic so we need to modulate this layer to create a moving magnetic flux to replicate a moving generator. (TPU 5khz)   Bucking air coils can be used instead of ferrite cores where the dielectric is charged using reactive displacement currents and a kicker coil.  This is basically Ismael MEG process. COP 2.7 . The latter is a switcher but extremely powerful switched harmonics to 20 octaves are counter productive and requires critical filtering.

This is the process of the TPU,  Genesis and Kapaadze. Capacitor discharges seen in early  Kapanadze boxes are simple HV voltage regulators to prevent too much power and blowing out caps.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7028 on: July 16, 2011, 02:58:21 PM »
bolt

Please,define "switching". I thought you mean capacitor discharge.

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7029 on: July 16, 2011, 05:29:45 PM »
No Switching in Kapanadze Cosmo is on the right path.  The aim is to create a powerful magnetic field using only a HV EXCITER but normally that becomes electrostatic so we need to modulate this layer to create a moving magnetic flux to replicate a moving generator. (TPU 5khz)   Bucking air coils can be used instead of ferrite cores where the dielectric is charged using reactive displacement currents and a kicker coil.  This is basically Ismael MEG process. COP 2.7 . The latter is a switcher but extremely powerful switched harmonics to 20 octaves are counter productive and requires critical filtering.

This is the process of the TPU,  Genesis and Kapaadze. Capacitor discharges seen in early  Kapanadze boxes are simple HV voltage regulators to prevent too much power and blowing out caps.

@Bolt
I remember you were pointing out an unusual noise in the Thrapps Motor when the ZPE extraction starts.
There is certainly a powerful process going on in the core of Kapanadze (5kW and also 100KW device) , because
you can hear an extremely loud noise which i had just attributed to magnetostriction (just like in big AC transformer stations).

Comparison Kapanadze (at 1m10s) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQ99R4gOWY&playnext=1&list=PL30812BFE4627BB4E

Thrapps (at 0m57s) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgEsSOphlp8&feature=channel_video_title

forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7030 on: July 16, 2011, 09:30:09 PM »
Noise could be from spark gap. I mean not sound but RF noise.

bolt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7031 on: July 16, 2011, 10:46:10 PM »
@Bolt
I remember you were pointing out an unusual noise in the Thrapps Motor when the ZPE extraction starts.
There is certainly a powerful process going on in the core of Kapanadze (5kW and also 100KW device) , because
you can hear an extremely loud noise which i had just attributed to magnetostriction (just like in big AC transformer stations).

Comparison Kapanadze (at 1m10s) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQ99R4gOWY&playnext=1&list=PL30812BFE4627BB4E

Thrapps (at 0m57s) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgEsSOphlp8&feature=channel_video_title

Thrapps Motor makes a very distinctive sound as it hits resonance. Thrapp explains why he must tune to a certain speed as the system is matched into the lamp bank load.  The sound you hear at running speed is more like a GROWL as the system is completely  reactive into high VARS and tuned by the cap bank on the generator.  The operation in high VARS creates a powerful magnetic flux on the generator which vibrates the coils and magnets and this causes the loud sound while at the same time most of the BEMF is NULL and so little load on the drive motor. My guess is this system has a COP around 5 which is plenty enough to loop and run the load. So 1000w of lamps is pulling around 300w off the motor =  1500w gross -loop and conversion losses. Listen to the old original mullers they are very loud when they hit full resonance as VARS. Sorry this is not the muller thread but many things are highly related to each other.

100kw kapanadze system is not JUST a Tesla transformer as you would think its a large capacitor being pumped with displacement currents. You can see the primary tesla coil but this gives a HV pre charge into the mega large capacitor cylinder > 100kv.   On the base of the cap is a secondary very thick wire coil in base box to collect displacement currents are reacting to massive pumping magnetic flux drawing ZPE then to drop to 480v while the device is actually operating in high VARS. Most of the noise is not the spark gaps its will be the coils shaking like hell responding to very high magnetic flux.

  In other words its RLC pumped out of phase. Of course the system is 3 phase for 3 devices. The displacement currents from DIY cap is going to be in the order 100 times less efficient than using ferrite or iron as ZPE proxy to fill the dielectric layer. The COP of this system i think was around 10. Most of the loss will be due to phase angle shifting under load out of pure VARS allows current to pass the spark gap from the primary as perfect setup should keep max spark voltage versus max current on cap then as cap hit max voltage spark reaches max current at 90 degree shifted NODES becomes skewed and loads the primary Tesla but due to the huge amount of power involved i doubt anyone will complain gaining 10 times energy out than in.

Here is an electrical EQUIVALENT.  Please understand its not the actual circuit as the load coil inductor is not directly connected to the cap but wrapped around the  base of it to collect the displacement current induced magnetic flux as the dielectric is charged using out of phase high VARS impulse spark gap.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2011, 11:41:10 PM by bolt »

stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7032 on: July 17, 2011, 04:04:46 AM »
FINAL?   >:(

Where's the schematic?
Where's the parts list?
Where's your working model?

DonL


Thank you  my friend for your response
for link:
http://www.umbrellatech.lv/downloads/files/Design%20Of%20Device%20-%20final.pdf

I have material that is not complicated but gives you what you need  from scientific point of view in regards to sandwich ferrite rings with dielectric.
http://www.ece.unm.edu/summa/notes/Measure/0046.pdf

Wesley


Ps: I did not draw my conclusion as of yet ..When I have little time.
But it is what "ambrela" is relating too

Wesley
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7033 on: July 17, 2011, 05:25:43 AM »
[snip]
I have material that is not complicated but gives you what you need  from scientific point of view in regards to sandwich ferrite rings with dielectric.
http://www.ece.unm.edu/summa/notes/Measure/0046.pdf
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thank you for the link to this document.
scrolled to page 3 and there it is.
alternating high and low permeable cores.

take care.

nap

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7034 on: July 17, 2011, 05:29:42 AM »
whoopsie - gota fix something :(

there. image fixed :)