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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16505677 times)

LtBolo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5220 on: January 23, 2011, 05:23:51 AM »
Wow Lt. that's a very rare outburst from you  :D

Yeah, sorry. ::)

Anybody can be a skeptic and pull people down. It takes a person of vision and faith to see what others do not, and to tolerate abuse while working towards a difficult goal.

I've managed to make a significant amount of money doing what others claimed would fail, and in doing so, I've created many jobs for other people. Over the years, I have come to have little patience for those whose sole purpose in life is to impede the progress of others or criticize their beliefs.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5221 on: January 23, 2011, 07:30:17 AM »
   Does it get more compelling, or are you lead to believe it gets more compelling? Always question your sources and avoid making the same mistake twice.

   I am really starting to believe that open forums really have the opposite effect on creativity and inventiveness. After over 20 years of research, I see Big Oil has always won and this is thanks to the money it pumps into the system (held together by people). I guess we were probably better off without all this back in the early 80s when the only source of shared info was mouth to mouth and posted bulletins on campus boards. Even then it was hard to filter bullshit from reality. Control the source of information with enough emphasis, manipulate it, and you have a flock of sheep following you. Deja vu?

 Hmmm...  This is not your first comment that you made regarding this. Clearly friend you and I come from different walks of life. Allow me to explain, I would venture a guess that the majority of people on these 'free energy' sites are individuals that are in the electronics field or electronics is a 'major' hobby for them. Clearly there are some brilliant minds here and on other forums.  How many people on this thread can say they have been in the HVAC/R (Heating, Ventilation, Air-conditioning/Refrigeration) field for  twenty years? ......I think I stand alone here. Back when I was an instructor I would tell my students that HVAC/R can be summed up in one short sentence. 'It's simple, we just need to manipulate the environment'.  If we can do that then we can transfer it from point 'A' to point 'B'. That's it, it's as simple as that. Now the only way you can do that is to have a substance (refrigerant) that can 'trick' the local environment into following the basic laws of nature.

  Back in Sept. or Oct. I made a comment, and to paraphrase myself 'If you think your going to stumble upon some magical coil arrangement and get free energy your fooling yourself'. I stand by those words. With all the educated people on these forums how is it that this circuit arrangement is so elusive? What does this say about there knowledge? Can it be possible that they are missing a key element in there design such as incorporating a substance to manipulate the environment? What is it that TK knows? Do you think other people know electronics better then TK? If so why can't they build a free energy unit? ..........Do you see how there is something important missing? and it most likely has nothing to do with the right number of transistors or transformers.

  If you believe CosmoLV the 7Kw unit can be had for about $50. to $90. U.S. dollars. That's not a heck of a lot of money. Actually that's about the price of a 250' roll of stranded 14 gauge wire. The bottom line is that it has to be a simple circuit that interacts with the environment. The only way to interact with the environment is to manipulate a part of it. Also we need a closed system so we do not lose our substance. The substance we use must be able to 'absorb' energy then 'reject' energy. Of course the amount of energy required to run the process has to be less then what we can recover.

  So the air we breathe is a gas in a 'super heated' state. By volume it contains 78% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen 1% argon and the remainder is misc crap. One of those two major gases we have to manipulate via an electric circuit take your pick. (That's my belief) 
  I ask you, with all respect, for the last 20 years could it be possible that your missing link could be something that is 'far fetched'?
   
Respectfully,

Core 

khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5222 on: January 23, 2011, 10:45:11 AM »
In Russian forum there is topic: Testings (experiences) by invention of Kapanadze  (Опыты tiger2007 по изобретению Т. Капанадзе),
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=1056.msg25782#msg25782  tiger2007 shows his experiment where he is declares getting 90% free energy from simple generator http://www.youtube.com/user/tiger2007ify ,
Transformer wound on to ferrite core (from TV CRT line sway),
Look at how does he carry on with measurings  :o
Scheme:   Power Supply -> box wheres variable resistors -> GENERATOR -> 12V/40W lamp,
He is showing on the Oscilloscope generated peaks and he is drawing on the screen these areas what he declares as free energy he is getting.
Multimeter shows current 1.09...1.10 A ,
Also he is showing small LC filter between generator and Multimeter - small coil and capacitor.
Then he makes a new scheme:
Power Supply ->  box wheres variable resistors  -> 12V/40W lamp,
He is showing the brightness of lamp when current is regulated via box wheres variable resistors to 1.09 A - then lamp just arduously glows.
Then he is trying to get visually the same  brightness of lamp, he does it via box wheres variable resistors - when appr. the same  brightness, then current is 1.92 A ... he declares that this is proofing this device makes 90% free energy ... "coefficient of economy is 0.9" he declares.
O.K.  ;)
But about this kind of measurements ... oh dear ::)
Look at power supply when he turns it ON, what is doing the left Meter?  Is it Ampmeter?
What is Voltage ???  We do not see Voltage what comes out from Power Supply as well as we do not see Voltage after this "box wheres variable resistors".
Why he does not measure the current direct from power supply? Why after this "box wheres variable resistors"  ???
When first measuring, Generator ON and current is 1.09 A, he declares he is measuring DC current - is this LC filter adequate for  ???
What kind of Multimeter this is? Is it true rms or just multimeter  :-\
cheers,
khabe
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« Last Edit: January 23, 2011, 07:22:20 PM by khabe »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5223 on: January 23, 2011, 11:41:30 AM »
   Core, I guess my statement was misinterpreted as I see it the way you do. What I meant to say is that, with all the communication going on and the technology supposedly "helping" us making the world a smaller place (but more controllable), the most important discoveries have come from lone individuals who tend to become (willingly or not) even more isolated. So my question is, do these open forums really help one finding the correct path to the solution (I am referring to the "Free Energy" argument) or has it become mostly a waste of time due to the explained reasons?
   I also believe this device is not overcomplicated and with average electronics experience it is possible to replicate and that something is missing in it's interpretation (which is the reason these devices are most feared as then would be easily replicable by all). Now we have two problems: first is to rule out that the device is not bogus and if not, find how it works. Based on every person's individual education, knowledge and personality, this is where the "fun" begins and also where the "loop" starts. The over abundance of (mis)information out there disgregates the purpose of the research itself creating smaller and smaller agglomerates of directions who end up in contrast: divide et impera. This happens primarily for 2 reasons again: lack of fixed references (no specific or correct knowledge, no experience) and subsequent frustration (loss of time and money). The misinformants play with both of the above and the result is a controlled caotic behaviour leading nowhere. If at some point there surfaces a spec of evidence of clean reasoning and correct intuition, it is vomited upon with hundreds of others, or simply ignored. This ancient method is actually applied at all levels of our society and unfortunately it works very well.
   I apologize for the longer reasoning but this way I hope I elucidated what I meant by my prior statement. My last intention is to set anybody back with this - actually the opposite: to avoid wasting ones fruitful potential and avoid falling into the same traps.
Yes, I know, it is very hard if you're being dealt from a bad set of cards and you have a bunch of cheaters at the table.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5224 on: January 23, 2011, 04:33:55 PM »
Ok my dear friends free energy experimenters. I reed a lot and post little. I see all the chatter and constructive optimism and then comes  fight and all falls apart.  We get Stphanov  fascinating video and suddenly we are trusted out in the magnetosphere and gaseous sector of the space.  It is easy to get detracted and influenced by informed individual. Then again if he is so informed I would say perhaps he already knows  what we are looking for. Sadly I see no schematics, all I see is agenda. I am also impressed by possibility of using Nobel gasses  or high speed plasma  who knows.  I spent many years with refrigerants to know there is potential. Then again looking at it all from higher altitude I must admit it should be much simpler. I posted circuit hundred pages back that generated BMF of such magnitude when I got zapped I fell of the chair. Later I found Richard Willis is already having patent with similar device. Potential is there, it is simple and Stephanov video indicates it is similar device only with huge transformer and tremendous output. I am convinced device is genuine and that it works. I can say that because of my experimenting and hands on experience and not because someone told me so.  Now we get this simple device from Tiger2007. Again simplicity and functionality.  After all  this I am not saying I know better than rest of you but I can assure you that device we are looking for is of simple design and put together with simple inexpensive components easily obtained.  To sum it up it comes down to Ferrite material  for the core and for simple reason because of the easily manipulated domains. Easier to flip simpler to extract. Cosmo experiment schematic is step in right direction alto having ferrite ring core I had difficulty with bleeding high voltage. The problem is in controlling current. Tiger2007 flip flop transistor setup is same as the Cosmos and the direction to look into. As the domains are flipped with square wave we have sudden change in direction and BMF is superimposed on the wave out of phase. Current lead voltage – voltage leads current, inductive capacity  lode charge discharge.  The scope marker sections in the video. I think we should come to some sort of the consensus and work on the schematics instead than going in thousand directions at once. I am convinced this is way to go. Hope it make sense to you to.
Respectfully.
David.   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5225 on: January 23, 2011, 08:45:17 PM »
@Core,
I am dealing with HVAC systems on daily basis.A heat pump is "overunity" device :-).It takes a heat from ambient air.Typically for 1kW of electric energy heat pump gives over 3kW of heat.It is kind of device that converts large amount of low temperature heat into smaller amount of high temperature energy.As you said, it takes less energy to compress and liquify refrigerant - than energy that refrigerant sucks from ambient air when it is changing state from liquid to gas ( expanding).It is general law of entrophy, when matter is changing its state from more organized to less organized ( from liquid to gas).Organized state has "higher" energy level, chaotic state of matter has "lower" energy.I was always wondering if that refrigeration phenomena applies to electron "gas", what happens when we change state of elecrons in the circuit from more organized to less organized?Let's say-when electrons jumps from conductor to break at spark gap or vacuum tube.Electrons movement and speed  is different in the conductor and in the vacuum.In th vacuum electrons are ballistic, speed is much greater and movement is more directed.Does that phase change effects energy level?There is a mass difference of electrons related to their speed.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5226 on: January 23, 2011, 09:00:34 PM »
The only thing I like to do after reading past issues, is to translate some rows from post of Владимир he wrote about "wonder-trafo" of tiger2007 :

 "The content of a series of the posts of some authors  gives reason to assume that majority of those recording on the different forums in the different themes they have very vague concept about the elementary concepts of physics of the electricity of those studied in the 9th class of school. And this leads to the appearance of fantastic treatings  of the observed results of experiences to the infinite attempts to wind "magic coils" , "magic transformers" ,  to name the source of high current from source of high voltage - in THE HOPE, that perhaps, will come the OU device.  IT WILL NOT, no way,  GENTLEMEN „NATURAL- TESTERS”.
Without the solid KNOWLEDGE of elementary physics, beginning from the level of the 9th class, without UNDERSTANDING of that how these elementary effects they work in the diverse technical devices, where and in what KNOWN devices are observed the phenomena, for explaining which of the existing physical ideas it is insufficient - without entire of this obtaining  FREE ENEPRGY it has very small chances to the success. The numerous posts of the different authors showed that they, these authors, have the vaguest idea about the work even of this far-spread device as usual TRANSFORMER."

http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=1056.msg25834#msg25834

Of course after this talk out he is getting very strongly creamed in this forum  :o
But ... opponents have no cogent arguments, just blah and hooey about something garbled, about they have not even smallest idea about  ::)

Thats because I do not believe before I have seen with my own eyes at least one really working OU device.
Kapanadze? Perhaps yes, but I have not seen it, and like always just hazy videos, talking and messy bullshit from hundreds of "polymaths".
And like rule - monthly one "SOLVED!",  "Successfully replicated!" ... and then quiescence  :-[
These kind "proofed" like tiger2007 and hundred similar ... no way, not for me, this is untaught howdy-howdy.
you can add hose and noble-gases ... you can add waterwheel, garden pump and even washing machine - what ever you like - it does not matter,
Hundred years people have built radios, what ever electronic devices where used trafos, ferrites, coils, capacitors ... people have made million mistakes, burned of tons of transformers and etc ... and none got by chance any transformer to self run  ::) ... still  not any radio wont work without batteries  >:(
One thing you always fend off is CORRECT MEASUREMENTS - just mentioned about and ... whole talking goes promptly to another theme.
Have a nice time,
cheers,
khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5227 on: January 23, 2011, 10:06:25 PM »
@Khabe . I hate to admit it but you speak the truth .I am certainly no genius , and have only a basic education , but for many years I made a living repairing washing machines , and I hold an Amateur radio license , so I must know a bit . There is still a lot not known about magnetism and electricity . But when people start talking about pyramids , dowsing , and Faith Based mathematics , I switch off . On this forum , hopefully we deal with science , not Flim Flam , woo woo , or pseudo religion [ is there any other kind?] When people claim dowsing abilities , why haven't they taken James Randis million dollars , or dowsed the lottery numbers . OK people should be allowed to believe what they want , but not confuse it with science.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5228 on: January 23, 2011, 11:56:46 PM »
We can always use it as an instrument  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrEgg-myMI

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5229 on: January 24, 2011, 03:34:06 AM »
Has anyone done a frame analysis of the video with the green box device to see how the coil is connected?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5230 on: January 24, 2011, 09:32:38 AM »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5231 on: January 24, 2011, 11:08:19 AM »
...There is still a lot not known about magnetism and electricity . But when people start talking about pyramids , dowsing , and Faith Based mathematics , I switch off . On this forum , hopefully we deal with science , not Flim Flam , woo woo , or pseudo religion [ is there any other kind?] When people claim dowsing abilities , why haven't they taken James Randis million dollars , or dowsed the lottery numbers . OK people should be allowed to believe what they want , but not confuse it with science.

I agree with you 100%.
Almost every thread is polluted by posts with irrational incantations more related to faith than science, and certainly not to the subject. The worst is that the believers use science-like language in order to look more credible (in fact pseudo-science) and they transform some real scientists like Tesla into gurus with hidden secrets. Not only they have no background in science but they don't even want to study it. For this reason they believe that they "think outside the box" and that people much more intelligent than them, like Ampère, Newton, Einstein and others, are crackpots. But they don't "think outside the box", they don't think at all, they jabber.
We may say that science is not complete and can have holes, nevertheless ignoring conventional science, denying its consistency and chanting FE without showing a single experiment proving it beyond any doubt, is pure stupidity, reproducing ever and ever the same errors. It is counterproductive for our goal, FE is science not religion.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5232 on: January 24, 2011, 11:37:55 AM »
I'm sure the self claimed unproven unshown unseen... succes of our esotheric friend cosmo is in direct relationship with his spiritual views.

In fact it's so simple it's obvious. Just take a  fluorescent nuclear resistive magnetic parametric quantum inductive resonant impulsive radiant acoustic capacitive asymmetric disruptive inertial kinetic vorticial COIL, and stick it up a donkeys behind. After 3 hours of indigestion the coil should be ready to be stuck up your own ass.

Don't thank me thank mr C.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5233 on: January 24, 2011, 12:03:40 PM »

If we avoid controversy, then perhaps we will understand how the generator kapanadze :-\ ???
Leo48

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« Reply #5234 on: January 24, 2011, 12:56:31 PM »
If we avoid controversy, then perhaps we will understand how the generator kapanadze :-\ ???
Leo48

After 350 pages you have to believe in flying pigs to still be that optimistic.

You're more likely to see someone completely irrelevant posting an open source FE device on this forum before you see someone successfully replicating kapanadze's gen based on the mountain of disinfo in this thread.

Unless kapanadze comes on and posts the plans, I don't see any success in finding an exact replica with all the crap and distractions of this thread.This post might be crap as well, but hey what's a little turd on a mountain of shit.