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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16521275 times)

khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5175 on: January 21, 2011, 02:01:50 PM »
found some thinkings from russian sites about,
And better photo where visible that one pink thyristor and three green diodes (?),
cheers,
khabe

khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5176 on: January 21, 2011, 02:13:53 PM »
Some guys from ru. forums surmise that this device contents similar principle like well known "optimiser/minimiser" of energy for homes,
There are two lamps (they speak that works like thermistors) and small ventilator ...)
I have no idea, is it for cheating the electric meter or ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5177 on: January 21, 2011, 02:21:24 PM »
May I show you my observations - try C1 about 2uF/3000V, C2 20uF/3000V, L1 and L2 as Tarils coil was visible. Input about 1500V/40mA / 200Hz, Its a feedback system - you get a huge gain of power!

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khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5178 on: January 21, 2011, 02:35:57 PM »
After 21.Dec.2010 no more replies,
THE END  >:(

Before ends was one more idea about scheme ...
someone tried after reading patent (useful model) descripions,
but there is no thyristors at all  :-\

Now Im bored and tired  ::)
cheers,
khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5179 on: January 21, 2011, 02:39:03 PM »
Some guys from ru. forums surmise that this device contents similar principle like well known "optimiser/minimiser" of energy for homes,
There are two lamps (they speak that works like thermistors) and small ventilator ...)
I have no idea, is it for cheating the electric meter or ...

Well Kahabe I think you are cheating yourself when you try and get others to figure it out. If they were any good at that, they would have done that already.

You can spend the next ten years waiting for someone to tell you what to do and you will not be any farther ahead than you are right now. I know that because I have watched people here do that here for the last ten years.

You have to use reason and logic. Nobody spends tens of thousands of dollars to build a big 100K power generator that does not work. Nobody has results like those demonstrated by the inventor. Now why is that? Nobody is doing what he is doing.

Ask yourself what are those 3 big metal cans that are being sparked by the Tesla coils and why?

The energy comes from somewhere and free energy comes from converting mass into atomic energy. The mass is the gas in the cans of the 100K generator and that is going to contain oxygen 1 (O1). The spark makes it magnetic for a moment because it opens the aperture of the atom and polarizes them all the same direction. Now the universe that is always feeding those atoms can easily flow though them and this produces a local magnetic field.

When you decide to think for yourself and experiment, I think you will find what I told you to be true. Until then, you have what I gave you and it is up to you to take it from there.

The first big understanding I had about OU devices was ten years ago. I laid about 50 patents on the floor and walked around on them for hours thinking what is the pattern.

Suddenly I noticed that many of them had a tube with gas or a vacuum tube. So I arranged them that way. Then I noticed other things and pretty soon I realized this pony just knows a few tricks that are being used over and over.

Look for the patterns. It takes many years to study these inventions and get them into your head. I am saving you many years with one simple suggestion - look for the patterns between devices that have been verified and ignore those devices that have not. Odds are, the devices that have not been verified already are just being used to distract you on purpose.

BTW- Just one problem with you last 2 schematics - I see TWO banks of those diodes or whatever you want to call them. - 2 phase? Who cares. That is not the part that matters. What matters is that you try and figure out where the energy comes from.

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5180 on: January 21, 2011, 02:57:49 PM »
I'll tell you one more thing. Grumpy is only Grumpy on the outside. On the inside he is a sugar bear. This is why I sometime try and turn him inside out.

He is also pretty smart and probably does indeed know how some of this stuff works. One of the last things he said while he was telling me how dumb I was and losing his temper in his last post is there is a more efficient way of producing magnetic induction. I already knew that but I like to get some "peer review" sometimes from the spooks. They can be most helpful.

Trolling is all about creating REACTION. They provoke people so I made that little web site to turn it around on them and have some fun at their expense for once.

Be an actor, not a reactor - Look for the patterns. People are funny that way, even inventors. Step back and look at the big picture. It is in those huge metal cans on the table being shocked by the high voltage.

ramset

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5181 on: January 21, 2011, 03:08:21 PM »
I believe Grumpy to be one of the men who has also spent 10 years or better trying to get an understanding !

10 Frustrating years !!
I'd be Grumpy Too..........

He's no spook or bad guy ..........
And Now He's stuck in "LARRY WORLD"

Chet
« Last Edit: January 21, 2011, 03:38:46 PM by ramset »

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5182 on: January 21, 2011, 03:35:53 PM »
I believe Grumpy to be one of the men who has also spent 10 years or better trying to get an understanding !

10 Frustrating years !!
I'd be Grumpy Too..........

He's no spoke or bad guy ..........
And Now He's stuck in "LARRY WORLD"

Chet

That dog didn't hunt yesterday in your deleted "Save the Grumpy" thread and it ain't going to hunt here today. Now you march right back back to your IST thread and stop trying to make trouble. You have my list of demands - Sign zee papers old man...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5183 on: January 21, 2011, 03:57:55 PM »

Ask yourself what are those 3 big metal cans that are being sparked by the Tesla coils and why?

The energy comes from somewhere and free energy comes from converting mass into atomic energy. The mass is the gas in the cans of the 100K generator and that is going to contain oxygen 1 (O1). The spark makes it magnetic for a moment because it opens the aperture of the atom and polarizes them all the same direction. Now the universe that is always feeding those atoms can easily flow though them and this produces a local magnetic field.

When you decide to think for yourself and experiment, I think you will find what I told you to be true. Until then, you have what I gave you and it is up to you to take it from there.


  This is very interesting and ties in with what was posted on this site and the Russian site. It was said that the Kodak 'flash' circuit has a lot to do with Tariel's device. As much as 80% of the working device was illustrated in the flash circuit. Maybe this is just a coincidence but the Kodak flash, like all of them, use a Gas Xenon tube. The high voltage ionizes the gas allowing current to flow.


Respectfully,

Core

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5184 on: January 21, 2011, 04:18:15 PM »
  This is very interesting and ties in with what was posted on this site and the Russian site. It was said that the Kodak 'flash' circuit has a lot to do with Tariel's device. As much as 80% of the working device was illustrated in the flash circuit. Maybe this is just a coincidence but the Kodak flash, like all of them, use a Gas Xenon tube. The high voltage ionizes the gas allowing current to flow.


Respectfully,

Core

Ahh.. Finally we agree. I have not seen the circuit or even read this thread but trust me core, you are so right on that one. What is on the can is a gas transformer.

I read a letter from someone that tesla built a coild for. He tried to replicate it exactly but could not. I suspect Tesla put some magic gas in the tubular primary and soldered it closed and laughed for the rest of his life.

Protons and electron have affinity to each other. Not just attraction, but actual affinity so that there is the the tight amount of both in a given space. Problem with electricity is protons can't flow through a solid. It takes a lot work to tear all that stuff apart and put it back together. But protons will flow through a gas or a liquid.

Notice how your fluorescent lamp does not heat up too much and is very efficient?

Electricity is mass to atomic energy conversion - E=MC2. It starts out overunity but without the proper conductors and inductors, that goes away before it moves a single mm.

Proof of that is the fact that a magnet moving at 1 meter per second amplifies voltage to the speed, vacuum and light of the universe in the neck of the woods anyway.

Now if you really want to understand electricity, flip your scope upside down. It took me years to reverse in my head what I was programmed with. Voltage is a vacuum field that creates tension. Electrons flow from the electron sea to try and fill the divet created by that mass to atomic energy conversion through cavitation we call Aharonov Bohm Effect.

Once you understand what electricity really is, everything makes perfect sense.

So, make some gas. Two tube and some water electrolysis = pure oxygen. Beat an electron out of it with an underwater arc for safety, magnetically sort it and use it.

That photo of Meyer's device will be a good starting place for your own invention. - Enjoy

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5185 on: January 21, 2011, 04:26:05 PM »
Want another example? http://rohnermachine.com/

Notice how they use the spark gap to change the vacuum of the cylinder.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5186 on: January 21, 2011, 04:29:00 PM »
Ahh.. Finally we agree. I have not seen the circuit or even read this thread but trust me core, you are so right on that one. What is on the can is a gas transformer.

I read a letter from someone that tesla built a coild for. He tried to replicate it exactly but could not. I suspect Tesla put some magic gas in the tubular primary and soldered it closed and laughed for the rest of his life.

Protons and electron have affinity to each other. Not just attraction, but actual affinity so that there is the the tight amount of both in a given space. Problem with electricity is protons can't flow through a solid. It takes a lot work to tear all that stuff apart and put it back together. But protons will flow through a gas or a liquid.

Notice how your fluorescent lamp does not heat up too much and is very efficient?

Electricity is mass to atomic energy conversion - E=MC2. It starts out overunity but without the proper conductors and inductors, that goes away before it moves a single mm.

Proof of that is the fact that a magnet moving at 1 meter per second amplifies voltage to the speed, vacuum and light of the universe in the neck of the woods anyway.

Now if you really want to understand electricity, flip your scope upside down. It took me years to reverse in my head what I was programmed with. Voltage is a vacuum field that creates tension. Electrons flow from the electron sea to try and fill the divet created by that mass to atomic energy conversion through cavitation we call Aharonov Bohm Effect.

Once you understand what electricity really is, everything makes perfect sense.

So, make some gas. Two tube and some water electrolysis = pure oxygen. Beat an electron out of it with an underwater arc for safety, magnetically sort it and use it.

That photo of Meyer's device will be a good starting place for your own invention. - Enjoy

  Yes I do believe you are 100% correct. It just dawned on me that the same inventor TK also created a 'HydroGenerator' I believe that is the name. There was a picture long ago from him that did show an 'Orange' cylinder. At that time it make no-sense to me why someone would post a picture of his generator when the only visible part is a cylinder. Again that also ties in perfectly with what you have stated here.

  Your last few posts have been extremely educational. Thank you.

Respectfully,

Core

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5187 on: January 21, 2011, 04:31:00 PM »
  This is very interesting and ties in with what was posted on this site and the Russian site. It was said that the Kodak 'flash' circuit has a lot to do with Tariel's device. As much as 80% of the working device was illustrated in the flash circuit. Maybe this is just a coincidence but the Kodak flash, like all of them, use a Gas Xenon tube. The high voltage ionizes the gas allowing current to flow.


Respectfully,

Core

There is another aspect and that is the cavitation of the arc produces a sound particle I suspect is a phonon. When the phonon matches the speed of light, magic happens.

quarktoo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5188 on: January 21, 2011, 04:40:25 PM »
Here is an experiment you could do in half hour and prove me wrong or right. I have not done it but I know how it will work out since I know what electricity really is..

Wrap 50 turns of any wire you want around a fluorescent tube and connect a high voltage supply to it to the tube. Get a rough measurement off the pickup coil.

Now move the HV cathode off a bit and make a spark gap on the cathode of the tube.

You should then start blasting electrons off the cathode and as such produce more electricity in your coil.

Test it out.

khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5189 on: January 21, 2011, 05:03:50 PM »
Well Kahabe I think you are cheating yourself when you try and get others to figure it out. If they were any good at that, they would have done that already.

You can spend the next ten years waiting for someone to tell you what to do and you will not be any farther ahead than you are right now. I know that because I have watched people here do that here for the last ten years.

You have to use reason and logic. Nobody spends tens of thousands of dollars to build a big 100K power generator that does not work. Nobody has results like those demonstrated by the inventor. Now why is that? Nobody is doing what he is doing.

Ask yourself what are those 3 big metal cans that are being sparked by the Tesla coils and why?

The energy comes from somewhere and free energy comes from converting mass into atomic energy. The mass is the gas in the cans of the 100K generator and that is going to contain oxygen 1 (O1). The spark makes it magnetic for a moment because it opens the aperture of the atom and polarizes them all the same direction. Now the universe that is always feeding those atoms can easily flow though them and this produces a local magnetic field.

When you decide to think for yourself and experiment, I think you will find what I told you to be true. Until then, you have what I gave you and it is up to you to take it from there.

The first big understanding I had about OU devices was ten years ago. I laid about 50 patents on the floor and walked around on them for hours thinking what is the pattern.

Suddenly I noticed that many of them had a tube with gas or a vacuum tube. So I arranged them that way. Then I noticed other things and pretty soon I realized this pony just knows a few tricks that are being used over and over.

Look for the patterns. It takes many years to study these inventions and get them into your head. I am saving you many years with one simple suggestion - look for the patterns between devices that have been verified and ignore those devices that have not. Odds are, the devices that have not been verified already are just being used to distract you on purpose.

BTW- Just one problem with you last 2 schematics - I see TWO banks of those diodes or whatever you want to call them. - 2 phase? Who cares. That is not the part that matters. What matters is that you try and figure out where the energy comes from.

How old are you, my dear wiseacre? ::)
I was not trying to find "secrets" from these Russian forums - for me most of OUs are at best like measuring errors, sometimes as joke, often unfortunately just stupid deception. Just was interesting to see how enthusiastic they were and how this enthusiasm step by step will die down  >:(
Time to time, sometimes even very often, when I need to rest from drawings, I do read Overunity and when I can then I try to translate from Russian sites for members who can not. My English is not good, my Russian is much better, although likewisely this is not my mother tongue, I can do even few languages more, no problem for me. When I do read these topics in English then I do not understand who is high horse, who is knowledgeable, who is bit ironical .... by Russian this is clear for me in few seconds.
Of course some topics are very interesting for me, but faster Im sceptic ... honest sceptic. To be more honest I can find from this forum some very useful things for myself - not OUs but just very interesting technical solutions and ideas  ::)
What about my current "serials" then why it did begin? Very simple - you was telling about Ignitrons you are seeing and following specious reasoning ... blah.
I just spoke that these are Russian diodes or thyristors ... because I have similar diodes.
Then you started with more blether ... you know all ... others are like stupid  schoolboys...
You need not delude yourself, my dear friend, Im aged enough to not be impressed about every kind of blah and hooey  ::) 
Success!
cheers,
khabe