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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12581248 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5025 on: January 10, 2011, 04:56:46 AM »
What do you mean? What part of the video?

Respectfully,

Core

I ment video #19
There are "comments" standing about the fact that TK was very upset with his approach to commercialize his invention.There was use of strong words and strong comments some of them I have put in close capture form of additional explanation .In one instance I stated that I will not  put accurate wording to describe it.

One of situation was pointing  of  experiments  provided at Island at the coast where after four hours of "work" ( I understand of successfully delivered action)
............. he was told to stop it for the next day or Quote"there will be problems",
and he should  immediately get people to protect himself as he is at point of danger.I also understand that it might be attempt to alter/and/or get into  possession of TK secrets by having longer access to technology unguarded till the very next day. TK rejected that request.



Note:All of a above is my personal comment and represent only and entirely me- (point of view = opinion).and nobody  apart of me.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5026 on: January 10, 2011, 09:54:05 AM »
You made your interpretation ... hm, I do understand some things bit differently.
About ferrites and "in flame softened iron" Kapa does not speak as precise as you do like long lecture.
In many places this "Skype reporter" puts the words in to Kapanadze mouth, hoping to get wished-for reply  -  Kapa does just nondescript hum and haw.
Kapa can speak much better Russian,  he does it very messy when someone does press out detailed info, there are explainable reasons ::)
Where Kapa speaks about ten kw, you are speaking about two hundred kw ...
And there was very clearly: "... then they did want to go to NA OSTROV (to island, isle) ... all others (Kapa´s gang) was against that, but I said YES  -> otherwise THEY will think that all this is just cheat ... There was NOTARIUS (notary by Russian) ... all was done under his (Notary) checking - they did be afraid that may be there are hidden batteries somewhere inside ...in green box ... There was not -  no shit! ...  After that we went to shore (na bereg), we grounded the device and there we made 4 hours of experiments, all was recorded (filmed) ... but now they do not give these records to me ... then they told me about perhaps we will have problems with coast guard (BEREGOVAJA OHRANA), lets go away today, tomorrow we will go on with, you need to get 50 kw  ..." ... (messy place) ... " then I asked them - Why we need to go to Mediterranean Sea when there is Sea and seaside as well ???" ... " there all these misunderstandings did begin" ... "they said I did not get promised 50 kw ..." .. . " after that they started to besmirch and to badmouth me ..."

There is not any word about bodyguard or about any dangers to Kapa´s security. 
These problems with coast guard (BEREGOVAJA OHRANA) - was not real coast guard -    the place where they did these experiments was private area, this isle, then private beach, everywhere private properties and security-men, when seen this strange gang with lot of boxes and wires :o -  told them to get away -  buzz off!

This is my interpretation about.
cheers,
khabe

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5027 on: January 10, 2011, 01:02:55 PM »
Kapanadze device is not Tesla transformer because as Kapa said when Tesla took energy from envinronment he didn't used transformer. That was "power coil" (extra coil). White spark in spark gap of green box device is not from green box  :o Tariel only found a way to send power to "power coil" which works then probably as disconnected resonator along with attached resistive load.
The same experiment could be found in Tesla Colorado Notes

That is what I  comprehend from Kapanadze words.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5028 on: January 10, 2011, 01:29:59 PM »
If Kapanadze wants to sell the device, let's try to gather all the money to buy one, then try to replicate the electrical diagram.I think that the only way to be able to replicate the same device, is to buy one.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5029 on: January 10, 2011, 05:05:47 PM »
khabe Thank you ..thank you very much..

Here is my response:


khabe
You made your interpretation ... hm, I do understand some things bit differently.
About ferrites and "in flame softened iron" Kapa does not speak as precise as you do like long lecture.

Wesley: Yes My lecture was addition to original sound track ,and It was my addition .
I was trying to explain to people not such technically high as you what is the major  difference between those two.( At first I was not using term " flame softened iron"  but  "flame threated iron")
Ferrite does not stand for its softens but for its "particle insulation property"
Ferrite of year 1857 was bunch of wires from soft iron and small diameter  flame  and water exposed to develop oxidation/rust  than  wires  are twisted together and  used the same  way as we use todays ferrite.

 
 
khabe
In many places this "Skype reporter" puts the words in to Kapanadze mouth, hoping to get wished-for reply  -  Kapa does just nondescript hum and haw.
Kapa can speak much better Russian,  he does it very messy when someone does press out detailed info, there are explainable reasons ::)


Wesley for:Quote:" Kapa does just nondescript hum and haw."
How would you translate into English this hum and haw? .for others to understand?

Wesley: for ""Skype reporter" Respondent was not reporter but "party" there was obvious string of connection between interests of TK and Denis  and his educated friend.
There was clear statement- proposition from TK  stending for:
1. "we always will talk- be in contact-have good periodic communication
2. we should  see each other-get together- work together- for the purpose to have business connection , join forces.It is clear for me That TK counts on this contact as possible opportunity.


Wesley:
Thank you for educating me in this area.
I have friend Ilia(Russian) Who I have called to get  just few words I have had problem with
and another friend Vitia Ukrainian... For us there was difficult to understand.
I have added English sub-quotes to video #19 correcting areas where my translation was incorrect.Please review that.
 

khabe:
Where Kapa speaks about ten kw, you are speaking about two hundred kw ...

Wesley:For me there is clear 200Kw but I'm going to ask for help my friends maybe tonight to help me in this area..
anyhow thank you  khabe

khabe:
And there was very clearly: "... then they did want to go to NA OSTROV (to island, isle) ... all others (Kapa´s gang) was against that, but I said YES  -> otherwise THEY will think that all this is just cheat ...

Wesley:
That part was additionally  explained in English sub-quotes please  look at it  again now.


khabe:
There was NOTARIUS (notary by Russian) ... all was done under his (Notary) checking - they did be afraid that may be there are hidden batteries somewhere inside ...in green box ... There was not -  no shit! ... 


Wesley: I have heard word "Svolotch"............
khabe please explain what  word  svolotch means? but with respect to the situation as the structure of Russian is very much expressional. That means you can use words  dedicated to area of music music, or cooking .......................and another Russian will perfectly understand you but you talking  space travel only......and than you use the same words but differently applied to talk about electricity.
I was capable of catch this "folkloric taste" of Russian language to the great extend.
The bad spot in my Russian is difficulty to deal with dialectic differentiation expressed by Republican-Russian  individuals   


khabe:
After that we went to shore (na bereg), we grounded the device and there we made 4 hours of experiments, all was recorded (filmed) ... but now they do not give these records to me ... then they told me about perhaps we will have problems with coast guard (BEREGOVAJA OHRANA), lets go away today, tomorrow we will go on with, you need to get 50 kw  ..." ... (messy place) ... " then I asked them - Why we need to go to Mediterranean Sea when there is Sea and seaside as well ???" ... " there all these misunderstandings did begin" ... "they said I did not get promised 50 kw ..." .. . " after that they started to besmirch and to badmouth me ..."


WESLEY:Thank you that was what I HAVE HAD PROBLEM WITH
I still have problem with me clearly  being able to here  "YOU GOT TO GET FOR YOURSELF BODY GUARDS"
and not  so clearly being able to here"  200KW"

can you listen to the sound track again khabe
please and let me know so I can correct the video sub-quotes?


khabe:
There is not any word about bodyguard or about any dangers to Kapa´s security. 

Wesley:
Yes there was indication of problems with?
With  whom?
What Russian wording was used for "coast guard"?
What wording was used for" possible use of personal protection of  Kapanadze"
Who the guards  work for?
If there  is private area and we assume that he was authorized to make this experiment that means owner of that area has gave him permit to be there legally.At that point I do not understand comment  about "problems"
If it is USA but not Russia I can have hundreds of guys with boxes in my private property...This is" MY private property" and police officer should gently ask me for permission to be there.

So please help mi to understand  this part better khabe
I know exactly how "mechanisms" of Russia works. I can see what people are having problems with and why.
If you where born in Canada but not Russia or Eastern Block.. You will never be able to read words the way they sound but you will here words the way they are being usually  used at.
 



khabe;
These problems with coast guard (BEREGOVAJA OHRANA) - was not real coast guard -    the place where they did these experiments was private area, this isle, then private beach, everywhere private properties and security-men, when seen this strange gang with lot of boxes and wires :o -  told them to get away -  buzz off!


Wesley
Again:  quote:security-men.....
answer:so what?........ who will they call? God?
would they invite  another private territory and/or fight with another security man?
Was that illegal testing on private Territory's? with no security guards of one?
Was that  attempt to still TK secret by leaving  green box exposed  till the next day?
The tools used to  create tension- pressure was wording about problems with
guards... or security guards or coastal guards?

It is  like I say to you .........." tomorrow is another day you will  finish it with no problem..."
but
It was not late of the day, nice weather, and I want you to leave this place so I can get into the green box, photograph everything  and than very next morning I will send you home... I do not need you  any longer......
In teritory of  Russia ... MEANING OF -words... "you going to have problem "is based on surrounding factors...
After so many years of soviet oppression:  this word  is and/or might be:
-warning
-request of action
-danger
-direct threatening
-bargaining demand
-irrevocable ultimate command
-you are going to be arrested  so run now........


This in my interpretation dear khabe


Wesley


« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 06:04:03 PM by stivep »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5030 on: January 10, 2011, 06:00:06 PM »
Oh dear,
You are so timidly agitated,
Take it easy and dont worry,
I have been high and low in USSR, in Russia, in Georgia, also in Turkey ... also everywhere in Europe, as well in US and Canada ...
Russian word "svolotch" means ->  rascal, vartel, villain, blackguard, fustilarian ... -> term of abuse ... this is high incidence word in Russian speech,
not every time with serious meaning. Look at how often russians use such word like /piderast/  (pederast), They do it so often that it looks like all around are /pederasts/  :o but in reality absolutely no !!!  -  this is just very far-spread term of abuse, both these words used by all, at soldiers up to politicians  ;)
for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0slREieq0No
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGV25M2kpfM&feature=fvw

One thing I wonder - you do not like to hear about Mediterranean Sea (sredizemnoe more)  ::)
He speaks clearly and irritable   - "why we need to go to Mediterranean Sea when there is also sea, also seaside (beach) ?"

Cool down, none wants to hunt you  8)

cheers,
khabe
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 07:37:51 PM by khabe »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5031 on: January 10, 2011, 06:13:25 PM »
Oh dear,
You are so timidly agitated,
Take it easy and dont worry,
I have been high and low in USSR, in Russia, in Georgia, also in Turkey ... also everywhere in Europe, as well in US and Canada ...
Russian word "svolotch" means ->  rascal, vartel, villain, blackguard, fustilarian ... -> term of abuse ... this is high incidence word in Russian speech,
not every time with serious meaning. Look at how often russians use such word like /piderast/  (pederast), They do it so often that it looks like all around are /pederasts/  :o but in reality absolutely no !!!  -  this is just very far-spread term of abuse, both these words used by all, at soldiers up to politicians  ;)

One thing I wonder - you do not like to heard about Mediterranean Sea (sredizemnoe more)  ::)
He speaks clearly and irritable   - "why we need to go to Mediterranean Sea when there is also sea, also seaside (beach) ?"

Cool down, none wants to hunt you  8)

cheers,
khabe


No you do not get my impression right..
I'm so thankful  to your help... I do want you to correct me as it is important to all of us to have right picture.
I think I'm so close to be able to replicate SR that It might be  just one word that I need....
Everyone help is appreciated.
We all want the "OLD System" to (-silence- no word expressed.)

Wesley

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5032 on: January 10, 2011, 06:47:02 PM »
are you able to hear what is Kapanadze explaining about spark in his green box ? This is the MOST IMPORTANT PART IMHO

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5033 on: January 10, 2011, 07:01:03 PM »
Here you find that VESTEL is a company name.
http://nasha-vselennaia.ru/?p=1684

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5034 on: January 10, 2011, 07:18:30 PM »
important correction was sub-quoted at:
4:57 minutes of video #19

test of correction:
Nichenko = Melnichenko (Мелниченко).... This is a guy who Kapanadze mentioned in the video with a green box and that person according Kapanadze is very close to the truth, but still far from building a functioning device. Melnichenko has several patents relating to transformers.

Thanks for help of friend from overunity. That is how we should to work together



update:
Thanks to help from overunity I have important news!!!!
  Right now  Melnichenko talk about free energy on Russian online channel. You can watch online and ... He promised tomorrow to show a working FE device 2 o,clock PM Moscow time

I have published it at 6:14 min of my video #19



Wesley

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5035 on: January 10, 2011, 07:27:57 PM »
Thank You stivep !

Melnichenko investigated something related to Thane Heins working also.In my opinion he comprehended that transformers are in reality only the restricted case of resonant energy "transfer" between two separated circuits. He proved it by powering a load at secondary while consuming the same power on primary side . I think we are approaching to the conclusion...

I found interesting info about Turkish presentation:
Катушка ставится между ТТ и бабиной вместо искровика, искровик имеет фиксированную настройку, поэтому установка имеет фиксированную мощность, например 5КВт. У искровика через некоторое время сбивается настройка его нужно будет переодически подстраивать. Установив эту катушку, установка может автоматически изменять мощность при увеличении нагрузки. В Турецком варианте нужно было создать видимость поэтому такие искры и все такое.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5036 on: January 10, 2011, 09:16:42 PM »
update:
Thanks to help from overunity I have important news!!!!
  Right now  Melnichenko talk about free energy on Russian online channel. You can watch online and ... He promised tomorrow to show a working FE device 2 o,clock PM Moscow time

I have published it at 6:14 min of my video #19



Wesley


PS: update#2

Thanks to help from overunity
- this link was send to me so I'm including it here

the link is

http://yatv.ru/vvgw2/
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My understanding is that this is the  channel that will give you ability to watch this event.

I was not authorized to mention name of Russian who is helping me  but if he will  allow me I will post his name with all of  the thankful words for his help

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5037 on: January 11, 2011, 04:57:17 PM »
The event is live right now:

http://yatv.ru/vvgw2/

Some user was kind enough to give me this link with schematics on Melnivchenko's setup:

http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=1109.0

Here's his new web page:
http://ferromagnetic-energy.com/
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 09:17:32 PM by iceweller »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5038 on: January 11, 2011, 09:58:33 PM »
  Maybe I am misinterpreting the chatter on the Russian sites but to use an American saying it sounds like 'Melnichenko' just served up something fierce. One guy stated that he patented a device in Russia that uses 'standing' waves (Tesla's favorite) to harness free energy.

  It was also stated that Tariel was trying to get a meeting with Melnichenko prior to this. Perhaps the translation is incorrect can anyone verify?

Respectfully,

Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #5039 on: January 11, 2011, 10:05:47 PM »
This is copied from the Russian site:

 Member name: Iled

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Good evening all
Well I do not know  Yet rather NOT GOOD !!!!!!!
 because I'm bad news .....
 besides that I know how to have Kapanadze, SOS, Guntis, SR, Stephen Mark, Don Smith, satellite work their Soup
so now I know why Kapanadze seek a meeting with MELNYCHENKO !!!!!!!!!!!
 Melnichenko has patented the principle of devaysa Kapanadze in RUSSIA !!!!!!

2002110131 2002110131                 
Way of generating energy on the electromagnetic waves
 Way of generating energy on the electromagnetic waves, in which electromagnetic waves from one or more emitters at first (in the first phase) accumulate in the tank (volume or other cavity, coaxial or waveguide, or in the form of standing waves in coils, wires and other kinds of feeder lines ) and then (second phase), accumulation of electromagnetic energy is released in the load (the receiving-transmitting antenna, active resistance, straightening rectenna, absorbing dielectric, such as water, etc.).
so now Kapanadze has no right to import or sell or collect NOTHING has no right to do WITHOUT PERMISSION MELNYCHENKO !!!!!!!!
not only is all going and try to sell MACHINES ARE IN Babble By MELNYCHENKO !!!!!!!!!!
I apologize for such conduct ..
but it is better to know now than after the sale of devices:) when they come Comrades and asked podelitsa .


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