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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12581223 times)

Offline jantje

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4980 on: January 01, 2011, 06:17:51 PM »
Best wishes for the new year!

I have not read all 233 pages in this forum yet.
But I think the next movie has not yet been discussed.
If there is someone who can translate?
Possible that this brings something new.

http://video.moglik.com/v/XTQYjWHSkxg/Секрет-генератора-Капан.htm

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Offline FreeEnergyInfo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4981 on: January 01, 2011, 09:51:17 PM »
Best wishes for the new year!

I have not read all 233 pages in this forum yet.
But I think the next movie has not yet been discussed.
If there is someone who can translate?
Possible that this brings something new.

http://video.moglik.com/v/XTQYjWHSkxg/Секрет-генератора-Капан.htm

video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoEXCweMxhk

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4982 on: January 01, 2011, 10:14:38 PM »
@ jantje: the video has been put together by "realstrannik" (http://realstrannik.ru/). He is trying to follow the "research" process from TK's device then to next-energy's ex admin (SR) and what happened in the mean time. I try to follow both forums and it appears that though the initial goal seems clear, the path gets lost along the way, and this was confirmed to me by more than one user through pms.
Though people still claim, for ex., that SR's device is completely different respect to TK's green box, SR himself, more than once, clearly followed a path of replication of TK's device and all the traces are still on his ex forum (and "hronotron" who apparently also managed to achieve a functioning device). Unfortunately he deleted all his videos and some data he had posted though a lot of messages are still present. The Bulgarian user "madsat" has come the closest to replicating his schematic, then somehow steered away. SR made some very interesting comments about the behaviour of his TCs and the way he interpreted "resonance". On the next-energy forum more than one person stated that he had achieved some form of OU (such as the user SOS-SOS) though no video or confirmation has yet been given.
   It appears that something has been missed in SR's (and TK's) coil arrangement which has forbidden the correct replication of this device. The hint comes from Tesla's fuelless generator and Linde's design which are "open" systems (they use the environment as source of energy). TK calls it an "etherodynamic" process.
In any case, more than one person confirmed that there are misdirection attempts on both forums.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4982 on: January 01, 2011, 10:14:38 PM »
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Offline amigo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4983 on: January 02, 2011, 04:37:23 AM »
    You where also right the first time. Patent #729,812 belongs to Matthew O Troy filed Dec. 5, 1902. Why Tesla refers to this patent number as his must be a typo. Odd that this made it into the patent papers because #729,812 will not be filed for another 2 years.  ??? I guess the proof reader must of been having a bad day.  :D.

I do not believe you are reading what's written in the patent 685,953, page 4, line 88 to line 95:

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"I do not claim herein an apparatus by means of which the above-described method is or may be practiced either in the special form herein shown or in other forms which are possible, having made claims to such apparatus in another application, Serial No. 729,812, filed September 8, 1899, as a division of the present case.".

I have bolded the part you must pay attention to. Application Serial Number (APN) is a different thing than patent number (PN). Unfortunately USPTO does not have a searchable database of APN prior to 1976.

In any case, it is imperative to read what's written, though people most of the time see what they wish to see. :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4984 on: January 02, 2011, 04:48:25 AM »
Regarding Kapanadze Green Box device,

Has anyone thought that the spark-gap is not required for the operation instead it is a voltage protection safety?

So basically Don Smith creeps up again? Maybe TK did not have access to a GDT (surge protector) :)

Looking at TK's "green box" spark gap then, the potentials across it are pretty measly as the gap distance appears low, suggesting the currents/discharges are not that high or powerful either.

I doubt there's much wind in his back yard to cause that arc to fluctuate as it is, so the above must hold true.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4984 on: January 02, 2011, 04:48:25 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4985 on: January 02, 2011, 07:16:34 PM »
A real solution to a real problem: Cheap (Green) Energy.
No half solution, but an entire solution.
This is a huge contribution to solve the energy problem.
Down with ugly windmills.
Down with too expensive selling solar energy
Transport of energy is no longer necessary! Down with the power lines.
Down with the polluting nuclear power!
Down with the coal powered station.
And so on...

If people find a solution, they exchange the solution soon for power and money. And so they offer no solution to the world, but a new fruitcake. Who wants to rule. Or they let themselves be intimidated by another oddball.
That is no solution!!!

But anyway 2100 watts is already possible!
If you have 2 or 3 still will make 4200 to 6300 watts!
That's enough for one household.
It does not take much space and money.
So we already have an solution?

You can find your solution faster if more people work at it.
At this level it is useful.
Good enough to bring it to the people.
Create an unmistakable easy to understand tutorial.
(Really Easy Child Language)
Once people benefit from it, it will spread very rapidly.
If it is really community property it will develop fast. In the hands of ordinary people.
Then people can choose. Pay for it or do it yourself.

Make the people wake up! They are lulled to sleep.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4986 on: January 02, 2011, 08:48:38 PM »
Jantje
Who has this 2100 watts device?

Did I miss something??
Thanks

Chet

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4986 on: January 02, 2011, 08:48:38 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4987 on: January 02, 2011, 09:02:08 PM »
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But anyway 2100 watts is already possible!
::)
Who did this through even if necessary to swim the Atlantic to find it!
Leo48

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4988 on: January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 AM »
Oops, did not read my notes well.
I was talking about the Kapagen of Jean-Louis Naudin.
The Kapagen v3.3 has a power output of 989 watts.
(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/kapagen33io.htm)
I'm sorry for that.  :-\

But, what I mean to say:
If you would have a solar panel that produces 989 watts, you would take several solar panels to achieve the desired number of watts.
Right?
So, if we add together 6 of these Kapagen it produces nearly 6 Kw.

1) This is a useful amount of energy.
2) Does not take up more space than solar panels.
3) It is cheap, and saves you a lot of money.
4) The usability will make sure that people actually use it. At the sight of it more people will follow this example.
5) Because you save money with it it is worthwhile to further development. Not only you but far far more people.
7) When in use for some time by many people it is already common good if we know how it really works.
8 ) You can-try to impose one guy, but not an Entire population. Then it is unstoppable.

Evolve? Yes!
Using the already achieved results? Just as important!
Share information with many people much as possible in clear easy language? Yes!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4988 on: January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4989 on: January 03, 2011, 11:48:37 AM »
Naudin's Kapagen does not have overunity, and because of that it makes no sense to put it in series.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4990 on: January 03, 2011, 11:52:41 AM »
Looks like someone had very funny Feast of Fools,
Is it crapula now?
At that you are speaking WE DO, WE WILL ...where is your personal  chip in about?
cheers,
khabe,
rather sceptic
 ::)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4991 on: January 03, 2011, 01:28:52 PM »
Thanks TheCell,
No overunity? This is unfortunate, but still very useful!  ;D
That means that Jean-Louis Naudin's Kapagen is usefull as a camping voltage.
At many campings in Europe you can get a similar capacity.
So I can build one ore two in my caravan (2 groups), and make use of a Watt controller.

Khabe:
I must tell You That English is not my native language.
So you'll have to read Between The Lines. I, we, you

Crapula? (Latin?)
Plures Necat crapula quam gladius: The hangover Kills More Than The Sword?
Better Skeptical? Disbelief can be much deadlier.  ;)
I will spent my chip in time.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4992 on: January 03, 2011, 01:31:56 PM »
Anybody out there with a richard willis device?
PM core saturation pulse and so on.
Building plans wanted!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4993 on: January 03, 2011, 05:12:40 PM »
English is also not my mother tongue,
Im rather sceptic because have not seen any working device up till today - not any!
Yes I like, I want, I hope, but unfortunately ... only bla-bla-bla or some halfwit men with waterwheels and belt driven generators  ::)
And you only try to hesitate about  - collective vapulating is guaranteed  8)
I do not find fault with  -   this is just my opinion about, part of topics are like the tommyrot,
I have kept a weather eye open in many sites, in Russian forums as well - like all over the places there this kapagen enthusiasm does die away.
Year ago all was "solved!" ... "replicated!" ... "successfully!" , even videos for proofing, but today most of people are keeping at a distance,
or taking it with humor if not with irony. As well as in this forum - "TPU solved!!!!!!!!!!!!"successfully replicated!!!!" - but where it is, dear Messrs?
Anyway - some guys here are making great things, very interesting experiments,
And of course, busy yourself with OU is much more better than drinking or drugs.
cheers,
khabe

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4994 on: January 03, 2011, 05:35:10 PM »
English is also not my mother tongue,
Im rather sceptic because have not seen any working device up till today - not any!
Yes I like, I want, I hope, but unfortunately ... only bla-bla-bla or some halfwit men with waterwheels and belt driven generators  ::)
And you only try to hesitate about  - collective vapulating is guaranteed  8)
I do not find fault with  -   this is just my opinion about, part of topics are like the tommyrot,
I have kept a weather eye open in many sites, in Russian forums as well - like all over the places there this kapagen enthusiasm does die away.
Year ago all was "solved!" ... "replicated!" ... "successfully!" , even videos for proofing, but today most of people are keeping at a distance,
or taking it with humor if not with irony. As well as in this forum - "TPU solved!!!!!!!!!!!!"successfully replicated!!!!" - but where it is, dear Messrs?
Anyway - some guys here are making great things, very interesting experiments,
And of course, busy yourself with OU is much more better than drinking or drugs.
cheers,
khabe

The problem is that actually there are very, very few people carrying out actual experiments and these few people are severely underfunded to expect quality research from them. The appearance of so much activity is given by hoards of armchair philosophers and know-it-alls who probably have nothing else to do. On the other hand there are a bunch of these Kapanadze's who desperately try to extract money from investors by playng dishonest games of pretending to have something extraordinary without caring to prove that they really have it.

 

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