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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16524667 times)

Trastos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4230 on: October 19, 2010, 08:28:08 PM »
This may explain why the patent refers to several documents that use DC circuits, both in LV and HV.  ;)

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« Reply #4231 on: October 19, 2010, 08:30:04 PM »
I have annotated the patent drawings with the block nomenclature.

In the last wo2008103130_c.jpg, I have corrected what appears to be a significant error, in that the positions of the capacitor (5) was interchanged with the main board (HF Generator) (4). This correction not only makes the drawing in line with that of the older patent 129, but it now corresponds with the 130 patent text, specifically:

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Opening the power switch (3), the user gives the electric energy received from the initial energy (1) to the first second part. being loaded with the electric energy received from the energy supply (1) the capacitor (5) serves as a pump, and provides the main board (4) to give electric to the system.

Main Board (4) transfers the high amount of frequency it generated to the first filter (6). First filter (6) stabilizes the frequency received from the main board (4) and regularly transfers to the first bobbin (7).

I've also taken the liberty to clean up and simplify the drawings.

More to follow.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4232 on: October 19, 2010, 08:47:48 PM »
@Core, Thanks for sharing your thoughts, very interesting. Can you tel me what do i need to perform that test you show in your video? Maybe you can show how you connect everything and what parts are you using? I have a poor electronics knowledge compare to you but I want to learn and experiment.

ps, never mind I read discription of your first video and now i understand your setup, what are you using for HV source?
« Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 09:10:09 PM by scratchrobot »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4233 on: October 19, 2010, 09:07:51 PM »
@poynt99

Miss you 2 and 2a. AC power.

Kapanadze say:
Opening the power switch (3), the user gives the electric energy received from the initial energy (1, 2 and 2A)

AC power is connect to load 220V 50Hz. This staff probably make 50Hz in the circuit.
All Others give current? Or.....

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4234 on: October 19, 2010, 09:52:39 PM »
Screwdriver got hot faster than ferrite got hot. It was definitely an induction effect. The problem was that I couldn't find any order to it, it just seemed like a super high eddy current at very high frequency...wavelength so short that it wasn't possible to do anything useful with it.

I had a soft iron rod in the middle of my coil and it never got hot.  It just got magnetized.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4235 on: October 19, 2010, 10:32:19 PM »
@point99

Miss you 2 and 2a. AC power.

Japanese say:
Opening the power switch (3), the user gives the electric energy received from the initial energy (1, 2 and 2A)

AC power is connect to load 220V 50Hz. This staff probably make 50Hz in the circuit.
All Others give current? Or.....

Shokac, i think yes, the AC current is generated by inverters. In the last video of Art channel, Kapanadze start the device with a 9V small battery.
Now i have a doubt, if, for example, i got a dc 12v supply like battery, with inverter i have HF pulsating DC, with a transformer, i can elevate the voltage to KV,
if i take this output and back to pure DC, i have KV DC pure current, if close the loop with "new" pure DC current, now i can start again but with KV DC initially.
Is can repeat this with a controlled frequency.
Just a suggestion. Thanks all.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4236 on: October 19, 2010, 10:41:28 PM »
I had a soft iron rod in the middle of my coil and it never got hot.  It just got magnetized.

In my experience it was a function of how intense the spark was. With a low intensity spark, I didn't get significant heating effects, but neither did I get the apparent flash saturation. When I dialed up the spark, I saw the flash saturation, and stuff in the middle would get very hot, very fast.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4237 on: October 19, 2010, 11:06:14 PM »
@poynt99

Miss you 2 and 2a. AC power.

Kapanadze say:
Opening the power switch (3), the user gives the electric energy received from the initial energy (1, 2 and 2A)

AC power is connect to load 220V 50Hz. This staff probably make 50Hz in the circuit.
All Others give current? Or.....

The input sources (2 and 2a) were removed on purpose ;), as they are redundant. As are the extra loads (13).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4238 on: October 19, 2010, 11:10:08 PM »
In my experience it was a function of how intense the spark was. With a low intensity spark, I didn't get significant heating effects, but neither did I get the apparent flash saturation. When I dialed up the spark, I saw the flash saturation, and stuff in the middle would get very hot, very fast.

I see.
My HV amps were in the mA range at 2kV and at 10kV so my SG was always pretty quiet.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4239 on: October 20, 2010, 07:17:30 AM »
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That SR document has been around for awhile. Back on page 230 or so on this thread I spoke about the two transformer experiment that I conducted. But of course it was dismissed because smart people stated 'it's not OU!' NOTHING in that experiment was about OU. It was making a point that 'injecting a HV arc in a low voltage signal made the light flash brighter' That's it No more No less. What should be taken away from that is 'mixing voltages' may be important.

Nothing yours in 230 page.
I remember someone mentioned a two transformer setup with a HV-capacitor-spark gap going to a bulb connected to the LV side of a transformer...

Anyway, besides OU etc how you claim did you manage to conduct SR's suggested experiment?
Shematics, photos, observations?

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« Reply #4240 on: October 20, 2010, 08:58:35 AM »
I decided to talk, than silence. Off topic follows:

I don't like the whole idiotic attitude. Those who themselves are chickens in the miserable chicken farm owned and maintained by the chicken farmer (TPTB), think that they are free! What helps me KNOWLEDGE, if i'm a prisoner in a chicken farm, and blinded not seeing it ?

Free energy is AGAINST the farmer. Applying for a patent is idiotic if related to free energy. Trying to make MONEY from free energy is idiotic. Except for Tesla's patents, he didn't know that his work was going to be suppressed. His discoveries are easily replicated as described from his patents. He laid open a whole physical reality for 1st time (read books from Dollard).

Once re-discovered, keeping such knowledge in secret is egoism. You think the farmer is so stupid to lose everything ? You think they will ever allow that their chicken break out of the premises and run freely, overrun them, and live afterward in nature in peace and harmony ? French revolution was one of such moment, it happened.

Only if you join them "the elite", elevate yourself and them up, then you can have a "god-like" life on the cost of the poor people and nature below.

Of course they allow you to discover, report to them (patent) and demonstrate it's workings. That's why they allow life of 7 billion chicken. The more people, the better and faster for them, as more bright ones are popping out to lay a golden egg here and then.

Only way that you can succeed within this system is to go with the system. Sell to them. This is what Tariel may want to do (the "business" man seen in 100 KW design), if he claim otherwise, how poor, he didn't understand reality yet. Ok, let governments, electric companies use this, and he receive a fat money account in exchange. Or resist and make them angry (they will know how to extract from you anyways). Or they don't need you, they can do themselves already or have something much much better, and let you alone with your invention (no money, nothing).

What is the purpose of a patent ? Once you have it granted, it's no longer a secret. Because if someone go commercial with your invented device, you sue that company and you win either way.

But look at this patent. Nothing is laid open, it's a puzzle. Worthless patent. If anybody would commercialize a device some day, Tariel can not sue, because the patent is not describing his device! Prove it to the court! LOL

Besides, he always says it's Tesla's invention. So, what are you hiding from who ?

It's obvious, he didn't invent it for us, he invented it for TPTB. If otherwise claimed, then nothing to be mad here, he should have known that he was playing with the very sacred core. If you go for it (he did) then let 7 billion go with you. Do not be inductive, be capacitive! Else they will filter you out, no effect to see, only a glitch. Ending up poor and sour. It is so and always will be so.

If you would have chosen to go with the base, they would forever be grateful to you. Tesla did, Dollard did etc.

Other good example Nassim Haramein, he did it the right way, publish all knowledge to the public and let public admire him. Unified field theory. Einstein and Newton are both "old knowledge" by now.

On topic:
So many researching on so many forum, believe, it's workings will be understood and be replicated sooner. Keep going.

Maybe Tariel, SR or Cosmo would be more forthcoming if they understood this ? It's never too late.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2010, 09:29:53 AM by catalyst »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4241 on: October 20, 2010, 09:01:06 AM »
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A guy who uses a steak knife as a wire cutter would have no idea what your talking about. So how would he have stumbled upon that?
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In the same way as the navigators used a compass from the 12th century without knowing anything about magnetism: just by empirical means. He did surely not work out a theory and then built a device according to it. The most of inventions, like the compass, come from unexpected observations. May be he came across one of them by tinkering with electrical engines.
In any way, a guy able to build such an electric device is not a novice and his interest for electricity shows that he is surely aware of some science in general (ex USSR republics were poor but teaching was rather good).



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4242 on: October 20, 2010, 09:52:22 AM »
I have a question about Kapanadze green box. Someone on video measured 23 amps going from or to ground. Does clampmeter works only for 50Hz or may it measure correct amperage in wire where a much higher frequency current is flowing ? I suppose that one used in video was only for AC,right ?
Does clampmeter works based on magnetic field inductance change ? Any expert here ?

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« Reply #4243 on: October 20, 2010, 10:01:42 AM »
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Trying to make MONEY from free energy is idiotic.
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Only because nobody has now a duplicable free energy device. Even if 99.99% of free energy products were sold without royalties for the inventor, the remaining 0.01% would be enough to make the inventor richer than Bill Gates.

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Except for Tesla's patents, he didn't know that his work was going to be suppressed.

Nothing from Tesla is suppressed: urban legend.
The most of his inventions were great but he had also some bad ideas like the "longitudinal wave" which is only the effect of a coupling between resonant systems in near field, perfectly explained by conventional electromagnetism. He was wrong against Maxwell.

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But look at this patent. Nothing is laid open, it's a puzzle. Worthless patent. If anybody would commercialize a device some day, Tariel can not sue, because the patent is not describing his device! Prove it to the court! LOL

I agree. And it will be from his only fault because a patent must give all details and information for every one to be able to duplicate the machine.

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Other good example Nassim Haramein, he did it the right way, publish all knowledge to the public and let public admire him. Unified field theory. Einstein and Newton are both "old knowledge" by now.
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I don't share this view. There are hundreds of "unified theories" and many are real science (contrarily to Haramein's nonsense). But when a theory is unable to predict new phenomena and to propose experiments whose results should differ from older theories, it is useless or not even scientific.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4244 on: October 20, 2010, 10:34:26 AM »
@ catalyst and Exi,

nice points there. I was thinking the whole Kapanadze story. Its a mess really.

Apart from the lone-wolf kapanadze experimentalist who has a device in his basement based on his true genius and keeps it as the utmost secret, the whole story has some "holes".

Apart from SR and many SRs around claiming that they know and show nothing, contributing to the legend, Kapanadze admittedly was wokring with a Turkish company towards commercializing his invention.

Apart from Kapanadze's custom made devices, what is really interesting is the fact that the TMZ company assembled a commercial grade unit namely 3Kw of power ready for the market. Somehow the whole plan was thwarted.

I am wondering. This device would require a bill of materials to be made and an assembly line of some short. How is possible to keep its function secret? How Kapanadze managed to keep all mouths shut?
What about human greed and curiosity?

Something is very wrong here.

ps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTCi93m7U