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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15116322 times)

Offline exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4200 on: October 18, 2010, 02:40:37 PM »
...the patents clearly show the input and output is DC.
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Interesting objection, nevertheless it is not clear.  It is stated:
"First part consists of an accumulator or chargeable battery or an inverter or network or any other power supply" (patent WO2008103130A1, page 2). "Inverter" or "network" means AC.
Probably AC or DC work, at least to start up. Then, when the device is looped, the question remains open.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4201 on: October 18, 2010, 03:41:50 PM »
Interesting objection, nevertheless it is not clear.  It is stated:
"First part consists of an accumulator or chargeable battery or an inverter or network or any other power supply" (patent WO2008103130A1, page 2). "Inverter" or "network" means AC.
Probably AC or DC work, at least to start up. Then, when the device is looped, the question remains open.

DC can be created from an AC supply. I am sure that is why the AC references are there. Ostensibly, his devices require a DC input. In the simplest case, a battery or charged capacitor (accumulator) provides this input.

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Some part of the energy generated by the device is used to feed the energy cables (14 and 15) feeding the first circuit and the power supply where this power supply needs to be recharged.

Also, no AC input is required, as the frequency generators are onboard. They will no doubt be DC-supplied.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4202 on: October 18, 2010, 05:29:13 PM »
Some of my thoughts (you may confirm or reject them)
1) without the hv winding it would be a normal stepup transformer
(12 V to 220 V)

2) The HV AC frequency is coupled via PLL to the low frequency : 50 hz
 so that the HV AC is a integer multiple of this main frequency.

Now there are 2 things to experiment with:
a ) Main Voltage (50 Hz) should be high enough to create a strong magnetic field .
Saturating the core leads in my opinion only to thermal losses.
b ) varying the multiplier and notify if the output increases.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4205 on: October 18, 2010, 11:37:58 PM »
The download doesn't work unless you're a member of EF.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4206 on: October 18, 2010, 11:44:18 PM »
Do you try test on Cosmo? I try, at one moment during a particular frequency (HV) humming away at the core. Why?

@Cosmo,

Does this need to get the coil, or ... (above, Bold)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4207 on: October 18, 2010, 11:57:48 PM »
This is from that document...

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Their physical principle (gathering energy from the environment in the form of a compound of the electromagnetic field) is given in this book 7 years ago and opened for free use.

It is in a section where a poster is claiming to understand how Kapanadze works. I would love to know what book is being referenced, but I couldn't figure that part out.

I see references to the 'dress code' and see stuff with Cosmo's fingerprints all over it, or at the very least, lots of stuff expressed in the same way that Cosmo is prone to do so. Namely...I'd tell you what I know, but I don't want the freeloaders to get it...but if you are found worthy... <sigh>

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4208 on: October 19, 2010, 01:06:19 AM »
Hi all, I bring you have not anything technical about my experiences,
If it's worth, I'm in the same case exnihiloest after the replica of Kapagen.
I opted to start at the beginning, something that deserves attention is the setup of a Tesla Coil with the addition of an extra coil in the fan community is also called as Tesla Magnifier. There are documents that highlight the strange voltage gain is obtained with this configuration.

A part of the "coils" Kapanadze uses a very elaborate system to control that energy, you can see in a document referred to in one of its patents, is how to manage various energy sources with different behavior mixed together.

http://users.ntua.gr/stpapath/Paper_2.43.pdf

This part is perhaps that most confuses us, but "only" needed to close the loop. For gross power, or at least begin to "pump" energy in my opinion is not necessary. I think the most important thing is to play with longitudinal waves, is the basis to begin to understand.

My goal now is to make a replica of a Tesla Magnifier and see what happens when (in the words of Tesla and Kapanadze) energizes the coil when it reaches the resonant frequency (I mean the extra coil)

Example configuration
http://www.tb3.com/tesla/magnifier/magnifier.html

Mi five cents.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4209 on: October 19, 2010, 06:24:57 AM »
Hey all,

Quote from Kooler in Jule Thief thread !

" i think i figured out the kapanze device.. which if i am even close is a don smith res device "

Hope he has got it.

Good luck Kooler.

Penno

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4210 on: October 19, 2010, 06:58:09 AM »
Hey all,

Quote from Kooler in Jule Thief thread !

" i think i figured out the kapanze device.. which if i am even close is a don smith res device "

Hope he has got it.

Good luck Kooler.

Penno

I will ask him to post his results over here.

Bill

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4211 on: October 19, 2010, 07:19:01 AM »
Cosmos, anyone

When winding these Kapanadze type coils when is it better to use solid wire?
Or should I always use stranded wire?

Thank you,
DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4212 on: October 19, 2010, 08:01:59 AM »
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I see references to the 'dress code' and see stuff with Cosmo's fingerprints all over it, or at the very least, lots of stuff expressed in the same way that Cosmo is prone to do so. Namely...I'd tell you what I know, but I don't want the freeloaders to get it...but if you are found worthy... <sigh>


Those comments amuse me the most.

Freeloaders, freeriders... WTF we are saying now? This is a puplic forum. The knowledge, experiments and photos posted here goes puplic by default at worldwide level. What's the meaning of hinting but not telling due to propability of freely learning all? This is bull...

Secondly, in many ways Cosmo said that secret technologies or Military agencies around the world do not know hot to produce FE whereas Kapanadze and his sons know...

It takes little mind to see, that if that is so and Kapanadze had a working device that military secret services believed it works, they would kindnapped him in a split of a second and with appropriate "motivation" he would sing everything he knows.

Three scenarios for me.
1) Kapanadze and his kin is BS-ing us
2) FE is widely employed but surpressed (likely)
3) Kapanadze indeed has a working model, but who takes seriously a lunatic who says he makes the impossible? So he enjoys a special  immunity for now.

In any way however its an interesting case.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4213 on: October 19, 2010, 09:43:39 AM »

Those comments amuse me the most.

Freeloaders, freeriders... WTF we are saying now? This is a puplic forum. The knowledge, experiments and photos posted here goes puplic by default at worldwide level. What's the meaning of hinting but not telling due to propability of freely learning all? This is bull...

Secondly, in many ways Cosmo said that secret technologies or Military agencies around the world do not know hot to produce FE whereas Kapanadze and his sons know...

It takes little mind to see, that if that is so and Kapanadze had a working device that military secret services believed it works, they would kindnapped him in a split of a second and with appropriate "motivation" he would sing everything he knows.

Three scenarios for me.
1) Kapanadze and his kin is BS-ing us
2) FE is widely employed but surpressed (likely)
3) Kapanadze indeed has a working model, but who takes seriously a lunatic who says he makes the impossible? So he enjoys a special  immunity for now.

In any way however its an interesting case.

I think this is all true and Cosmo also has a working device. I think it works with effect of nuclear radiations on materials, high energy particles (sparkgap high voltage) hit ferrite and create superconductor and supermagnet or no magnetic field at all for very very short time.

What do you think?



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4214 on: October 19, 2010, 10:55:23 AM »

Possible theoretical source of energy of Kapanadze's device.

As said before I would prefer not to suppose a priori that there is OU and not to "philosophize" around the possible "magic" of the device. Just the facts. Nevertheless here is an exception, very speculative.

If we presume there is OU in Kapanadze's device, the simplest explanation should be the right one, according to Ockham's razor. Nobody yet succeeded in exploiting exotic sources of energy like ZPE or like Maxwell demons. We will dismiss them as well as crazier speculations like virtual photons, gravity field...
And if we don't suppose it is a scam, we can also say that a conventional energy source is obviously missing.

Now a possible lenr is not to be discarded. Lenr have been demonstrated in electrical arcs. A β- radioactivity due to the spark could be the source of energy. It would explain the need of an earth connection. A beta reaction frees electrons while creating ions. The earth connection permits to maintain the immediate neutrality of one of the two connectors of the spark gap. It provides instantly electrons, reversing the ions to the state of simple atoms as soon as a β- electron is extracted, and forcing the liberated electrons to flow in the circuit before returning to the earth.

Very speculative, really. Too much? Plausible? What is your opinion?