Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406489 times)

baroutologos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 918
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4185 on: October 17, 2010, 05:01:24 PM »
hello Don,

Yes, the transformer is rated at LV side 12VAC. If you count and the voltage drop it would be some 11,5 at transformer's leads.
The ignition coil can output serious voltage in appropriate tune can reach up to 20Kv. But I am experimenting with gaps in the SG ( as you see in the photo) between 0.5 and 2mm.

So far no result. In your case what did you observed?

dllabarre

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 750
    • Portal Page
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4186 on: October 17, 2010, 07:15:56 PM »
hello Don,

So far no result. In your case what did you observed?

My LV was straight 12V, light bulb, coil.  Not pulsed so I had a strong magnetic field.
When I turned on the 2kV NST there was a high pitch sound generated from the coil but it didn't have very much effect on the magnetic pull of the coil.  Just a little change using a compass.

DonL


Shokac

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 378
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4187 on: October 17, 2010, 08:38:23 PM »
What do you mean ? Getting 220V from 12V without going through inverter ?

Yes, but without going through outgoing transformer.

I need 220V DC on SR/Kapanadze coil, but without step up classic transformer.
Why is Kapanadze use Inverter DC 12V to 220V????
Is it rectifies the 220V AC to 220V DC?
Is the use of 220V AC in its coils.
Coil is a 1:1 output transformer, no step up or step down the winding. (Maybe a little. 1:1,1)

Do you try test on Cosmo? I try, at one moment during a particular frequency (HV) humming away at the core. Why?

I think we've got super core, without a return magnetic field. (Lenz low)
So I need 220V on coil!

After that I will measure the input parameters in the loss of murmurs in the core.

scorpio

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 29
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4188 on: October 17, 2010, 11:52:40 PM »

scorpio

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 29
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4189 on: October 18, 2010, 12:00:51 AM »
Three phase motor = three coils in a box...
I can see a simply coils: one primary, one secondary

cosmoLV

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 252
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4190 on: October 18, 2010, 04:35:22 AM »
And here we are. Today i found some time for experimenting with the experiment Cosmo described.
Procedure

I put together 17 (glued) ferrite rings 2000 Permeatability, Soviet type (40mm diam).
I wound on them one common electrical grade wire some 40 turns, and upon it some grade wire another 40 turns or less.

I took one handy transformer and put a 4amp (40w bulb) in series with the LV AC source so as to provide some 3,5 amps of 50 Hz AC current flowing from the top windings.
The bottom winding i connected it via an also handy spark-gap and to the custom made HV source i have composed of a 555 timer oscillator, an Ignition coil and a FWBR.

The particular HV source is pulse adjustably from 250 to 4000 Hz by the 555. In real terms i do not know if this is so or it speeds up by the HF currents interference as i have noticed in many respects of inverters interfering with spark-gaps.

The LV 50 Hz current of 3,5 amps is just too few to create a noticeable attraction to any ferromagnetic object at the end of custom ferrite solenoid. BUT, if i take a strong neo-magnet as Cosmo suggested the magnet tends to act as a magnifying glass, greatly enhancing the sensation of the created magnetic field around the solenoid. (my fingers still buzz)

From my setup and in any respect, i failed to perceive any change in magnetic field's behaviour by the application of the HV via the SG. I made some combinations using a ground, opposing polarities, pulsing the LV winding via a diode (one way wave), still no difference observed.

...
Any suggestions?

PS: I observed that unconnected to LV transformer, the ferrite solenoid is electrified and small sparks go to my finger. I measured two points of a ferrite rings and DMM shoes it has a small but appreciable conductance

PS2: I put a coil inside the ferrite solenoid.This coil is not couple inductively to the outer coils.
The whole point of ferrite saturation and Coils inductive coupling reminds me Tesla's patent No 433,702.

i`m not understand why everybody want a get free energy from this setup or even a extra energy of it  ???
this is setup to demonstrate a effect in ferrite with two potentials - i think i described it several times  :(

scorpio, this video are around for one month now, it is Three phase 20 Kv mechanic/hydraulic system - by the way, it can start 20kv generator from little 9v Battery ;)
you connot run inverter from 9v Battery (anyway, this is not so useful) but you can run HV from 9v easely - HV side is the resonant and all pushing mechanism and it is wery important part of device and after that switches other part LVoltage, Tariel use Time relay for that... SR use "UPS" simple switching electronics

baroutologos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 918
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4191 on: October 18, 2010, 07:17:21 AM »
@ Cosmo,

Are you mocking us my friend?
Who spoke about free energy in this experiment??? I said with that setup i did not observed anything at alll at all by the application of two potentials to the ferrite solenoid.

You suggested an experiment in order to observe something different. A simple step towards a potential OU device. Nothing I did observed at all. Have you anything to add in order to run succesfully the suggested experiment?

Salutes.

Shokac

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 378
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4192 on: October 18, 2010, 08:26:05 AM »
@Cosmo

Do you use DC or AC in the coil?
What is the value of the voltage on the output transistors, 220V?

cosmoLV

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 252
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4193 on: October 18, 2010, 09:14:27 AM »
@Cosmo

Do you use DC or AC in the coil?
What is the value of the voltage on the output transistors, 220V?

220v on output transistors? why output transistors, i have on transistors maximum 11v 12Amps - a they are not putput, there are no output transistors

Shokac

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 378
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4194 on: October 18, 2010, 09:40:00 AM »
220v on output transistors? why output transistors, i have on transistors maximum 11v 12Amps - a they are not putput, there are no output transistors

Hmm, the coil is not output transformer?
Output transformet is step up transformer? (large transformer in your picture)

Or a coil connected in series with the output?

exnihiloest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 715
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4195 on: October 18, 2010, 12:21:23 PM »
Hi All,

After unsuccessful experiments with the kapagen, I decided to all forget, and to have a new look at Kapanadze's patents and search for unconventional features.
He has two patents: 1) WO2008103129A1 and 2) WO2008103130A1.
http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/Experiences/Kapanadze/

In the two patents, there are black boxes named "frequency stabilizer (adjuster)" and "filter". In the second one, there is also a mysterious "current amplifier". What does he mean?
The two patents are a bit different. If we compare them and presume that the primary circuit is about the same, we can suppose that the "frequency adjuster" 7 in the primary of patent 1) is the simple capacitor 5 in patent 2). Thus the primary should be a serial LC circuit, probably tuned to the "high frequency" which Kapanadze is always speaking about.

If LC is accorded for HF, the capacitance is low, and neither CC nor 50hz current can flow in the primary (nor any low frequency provided by the inverter when a battery is the primary source. In the next I will simplify by "50 hz"). This discards the kapagen. Now what is the role of a "filter" and on what frequency is it tuned? It can't be 50hz for the previous reason so we can hypothesize it is another LC circuit for reinforcing the resonance (because the first LC is a low Q circuit due to L coupled to the secondary coil which is loaded).

The HF current is provided by a spark which is powered from a 50hz current. Even if there is a capacitor and a diode, it is obvious that this HF current is amplitude modulated at 50hz.

Now what about the secondary. We have the same kind of circuits as at the primary, certainly accorded to the same frequency, possibly a bit detuned for adjusting the relative phase. It reminds me those used in radio for adjusting the impedance between a transmitter and an antenna. The "current amplifier" of patent 2) could be an adaptation of impedance with LC circuits.

But an important point is to be emphasized here: we are supposed to get a 50hz output current, at least to feed back the input with the same current as this one provided by the external supply when the device is not yet looped.

This point is rather obscure because Kapanadze confirms in the patent that all these circuits at the secondary are "high frequency".

But if there is not 50hz at the output, then the device could be looped with only HF and in this case, there would be no reason for feeding back the HF current before the HF generator as indicated in the patent, no reason to keep the HF generator in the looped circuit.

If there is also 50hz at the output, then as we have a 50hz modulated HF current, only a non linear component in the circuit can restore 50hz by demodulating the HF current. This couldn't be done with only air coils and pure capacitors. Therefore we should have ferrite cores with non linear characteristics due to their likely saturation, or a hidden diode in the "amplifier current", or even non linear capacitors. If there are ferrite cores, we don't know where they are. They can probably be the core of the two coupled coils, built from toroids like Baroutologos showed us, or else where in the coils of the "frequency adjusters" or "filters".

After these first thoughts, my first questions are:
- is there 50hz at the output?
- if there is, how a 50 hz signal could be maintained when the circuit is looped, while there is no circuit to stabilize a low frequency?
- if there is not, why to feed back the HF current for powering a HF generator that we don't need?



baroutologos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 918
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4196 on: October 18, 2010, 12:35:36 PM »
Nice thoughts exnihiloest,

But if i may say, most of the speak has to do with the technical details so as to convert HF to LF or vice versa, storing feeding etc part that is diffult to be made of course but with some persistance is possible.

what we are really missing here is the "magic".
What unknown principle by the modern science will allow such device to really work?
How the extra energy will come into the system and by what unknown methods ?

Unfortunately, So far not only we have not a straight answer, but not even a clue confirmed despite numerous forums, conversations and projects.

Shokac

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 378
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4197 on: October 18, 2010, 01:15:07 PM »
I see that the load is connected in parallel with inputs 220V power supply. a current amplifier only provides additional output current in the whole circuit. (mybe in serial???)

Load should work without it turned on HV, but with much less force. If not, from where to obtain the 220V outlet?

SR_posts:

.....I want to mention that the "coil" off the voltage on the line, without converters, frequency 50Hz......

As current amplifier without DC battery
« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 01:37:08 PM by Shokac »

poynt99

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3582
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4198 on: October 18, 2010, 02:04:37 PM »
Not sure where everyone is seeing 50 Hz and 220V AC? It is mentioned only once in the patent (perhaps a red herring?), but the patents clearly show the input and output is DC.

.99

exnihiloest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 715
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4199 on: October 18, 2010, 02:17:51 PM »
...
what we are really missing here is the "magic".
What unknown principle by the modern science will allow such device to really work?
How the extra energy will come into the system and by what unknown methods ?
...

I agree with you, Baroutologos, that these questions are the most interesting. Nevertheless they are relevant only if Kapanadze's device is proved to be OU.

So I prefer go forward step by step. To duplicate the device according to the information that we can get from the author, his patents, and our understanding (no magic here), seems to me a more efficient method than to base the research on the supposition that it works for sure, in accordance with hypothetical theories to be discovered and a-priori not even known by Kapanadze.

If we succeed, then these questions are to be answered.
If we fail, then it is time saving not to try answer them prematurely.