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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13669342 times)

Offline cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4170 on: October 16, 2010, 12:50:14 AM »
Posted in this thread forever ago...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg189076#msg189076

It has nothing to do with free energy!



by The Way: Eric Dollard has big respect in my eyes – someone has posted some link to his works, thanks :) There are Youtube also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc7sc – the longitudinal waves what about Dollard and Tesla speak are in ground wire in kapanadze device, and two potentials are making these waves. there are only one way how to make longitudinal waves appear..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4171 on: October 16, 2010, 03:02:14 AM »
If you want to see the coil on the captured picture explained, check the linked videos on this post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9688.msg255297#msg255297

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4172 on: October 16, 2010, 12:22:58 PM »

Eric Dollard has big respect in my eyes – someone has posted some link to his works, thanks :) There are Youtube also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc7sc – the longitudinal waves what about Dollard and Tesla speak are in ground wire in kapanadze device, and two potentials are making these waves. there are only one way how to make longitudinal waves appear..

Hey Cosmo, I have a question that haunts me a lot regarding Kapanadze Green Box unit (and other as well). Kapanadze apart from his secret built devices, demonstrates that a ground wire is needed (the better ground the larger the output) and also, this thick usually wire bears considerable amperage. (it shows it with an amp-clamp meter)

How is this possible? I have read and built Tesla coils and i am familiar with their mode of operation.
In order to achieve some 20 amps current between a SINGLE ground wire and the DEVICE, assuming its unconnected to any further ground (only to loads) then this cannot happen.

In other words, in order to have such large amperage between a device and ground It would required an enormous one-terminal capacity and a vast working voltage.

Not to mention that in order a conventional clamp meter to work it would require more or less low frequency (fact that boosts further working voltage and single-terminal capacity)

What you say about that?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4172 on: October 16, 2010, 12:22:58 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4173 on: October 16, 2010, 02:16:26 PM »
Hey Cosmo, I have a question that haunts me a lot regarding Kapanadze Green Box unit (and other as well). Kapanadze apart from his secret built devices, demonstrates that a ground wire is needed (the better ground the larger the output) and also, this thick usually wire bears considerable amperage. (it shows it with an amp-clamp meter)

How is this possible? I have read and built Tesla coils and i am familiar with their mode of operation.
In order to achieve some 20 amps current between a SINGLE ground wire and the DEVICE, assuming its unconnected to any further ground (only to loads) then this cannot happen.

In other words, in order to have such large amperage between a device and ground It would required an enormous one-terminal capacity and a vast working voltage.

Not to mention that in order a conventional clamp meter to work it would require more or less low frequency (fact that boosts further working voltage and single-terminal capacity)

What you say about that?

imagine a mop as kapanadze transformer, two potentials who squeeze third coil who are in middle and ground wire into middle of that transformer.

when you squeeze it, then all air is out, when you take off hand then mop bring back it's position where all air fill it again without help from the side..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4174 on: October 16, 2010, 03:53:22 PM »
:)
nice analogy and potential explaination. So far no-one has tried to give any plausible answer, i far i remember..

But, down to earth terms, how you can sqeeze a bunch of wires (hence a coil) and expel all its electrons to ground? At best in case you employ a capacitative approach (what else?), the current would be minute.
(it would be the product of single terminal capacitance x voltage applied x frequency)

Any thoughts you can share?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4174 on: October 16, 2010, 03:53:22 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4175 on: October 16, 2010, 05:50:03 PM »
  :D Thanks Cosmo,it helps to understand!

Offline LtBolo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4176 on: October 16, 2010, 06:04:27 PM »
I keep coming back to sympathetic resonance at a different frequency. Kapanadze said somewhere that you can't kill the resonance, which makes perfect sense...and is completely consistent with Tesla, who said that any power that left the coil was wasted. If you were to were to use a standard Tesla primary and secondary of high Q to build a large amount of power in the secondary, and then used a tertiary coil that was tuned to a significantly higher harmonic, say 12x...which has a big convergence of energy from the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 8th harmonics...would the same amount of energy that transfers from 1 to 12 be reflected from 12 to 1 via Lenz?

If not, then it stands to reason that you really wouldn't have a magnetic coupling to speak of, and the tertiary coil could drive a load to ground with virtually the same energy as the secondary, but without disrupting the secondary resonance. Long shot, I guess.

Another possibility...if the tertiary is bifilar, and is attached to wire that is quarter or full wavelength of the secondary resonance, would the electric field around the secondary induce a standing wave in the tertiary and attached wire? Like before, if the bifilar coil in the electric field will do a quarter or full wave resonance, it stands to reason that you would have a significant amount of power to ground without disrupting the secondary resonance.

Just brainstorming...


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4176 on: October 16, 2010, 06:04:27 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4177 on: October 16, 2010, 11:41:20 PM »
Does anyone know how to switch 220V through the coil, and that everything goes through the inverter 12V. (cca 1A)

Or better yet to ask. How over the 12v power inverter and SR / Kapanadze / Cosmo transformer to get 220V but without any additional excitation?

Scheme?
« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 12:21:04 AM by Shokac »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4178 on: October 17, 2010, 12:51:50 AM »
Today i finally got my ferrite toroids and i want to do Cosmo's experiment but for HV part
i want to use a small plasma globe transformer. It also has a mic, maybe i can change freq with it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYaR9HR-tM

Would it be powerful enough to get the desired effect?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4178 on: October 17, 2010, 12:51:50 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4179 on: October 17, 2010, 08:03:55 AM »
imagine a mop as kapanadze transformer, two potentials who squeeze third coil who are in middle and ground wire into middle of that transformer.

when you squeeze it, then all air is out, when you take off hand then mop bring back it's position where all air fill it again without help from the side..

I don't understand. I'm not a housewife. I don't use sponges and mops.
Come again in technical language?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4180 on: October 17, 2010, 08:04:50 AM »
I don't care about negative opinions. Hope you want to correct me or add your contribution or set things straight if you can think of something better.

I do however, acknowledge that most theory in my last posts was wrong. Because it's a progress. I do not know the solution, i am searching for it. The kitchen table is a mess while cooking. This is not the ready set dinner table.

In my last posts i had tried to make sense of LV circuit. It went wrong assuming the missing link to be the magnetic amplifier. Nobody contributed, except Shokac. As claimed, there should be magnetic amplifier in the LV circuit. It is not so. The mag amp schematic above functions like by using small amounts of current/voltage and a potentiometer, one can control AC current amount through load (the lamp).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBX1-POuJMw
The LV is not a mag amp in that sense (current limiting/contolling type). It is also not the old style DC-AC circuit. Is looks alike, but is not. The DC-AC circuit:
http://www.free-circuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/DC-to-AC-with-IC-300x180.gif

It has similarity, like the 2700uF cap. in cosmo's test setup.
Difference is that the bifilar windings are included. It also don't work with 50 Hz like in classic DC-AC. Clock rate must be high. Would you turn a mechanical generator at low speed like 50 turns per second ? It must be in thousands to deliver juice.

Think what LV's function must be. If you don't like my suggestions, then give better ones, but please do not negative comment on my thoughts. Correct them, but do not stampede them. I have not seen one comment on the function of LV part from others. Hint from cosmo perhaps ?

LV coil should create toggling electromagnet with the ferrite, in fast cycles. It must use high currents maybe 1-2-3-4 Amp (?) to cause big magnetic fluctuations. Thus the NPN/PNP are cooled (Tariel/SR/Tiger all have it). Thus the LV coil wire has larger diameter than HV wire.

I will prepare a setup (one month still..)

All i see is that few just got their toroid ferrites, others fail to do simple tests like cosmo so many times suggested, others only negative comment on positive contributing members, others have no clue of electronics, and so on.

Those who have their hotdog toasters and fail. Can you lay open your parameters in your setup ?

What was said about Dollard, regarding fixed magnets, i did not speak of using fixed magnets. We are creating electromagnet here. Is different thing. Also we're not making mechanical moving parts. All is true electromagnetic power generator.

About LV, shown in schematics here... Did anyone analyze it ? Why in both high and low level of the clock signal, one or the other of the bifilar windings is creating flux in same direction ? The schematic here and cosmo's test setup schematic the direction is reversed. Did anyone notice yet ? So, who has a clue what is going on in LV part ?

So far i have not seen the usage of the HV effect to block upper coils ability.

If you're bright, you understand this is technical post to set things clear, not time-waste-chatter.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4180 on: October 17, 2010, 08:04:50 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4181 on: October 17, 2010, 11:43:21 AM »
@Catalyst

look may last post.

Can you give me answer? It is the first step towards OU.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4182 on: October 17, 2010, 12:38:28 PM »
Does anyone know how to switch 220V through the coil, and that everything goes through the inverter 12V. (cca 1A)

Or better yet to ask. How over the 12v power inverter and SR / Kapanadze / Cosmo transformer to get 220V but without any additional excitation?

Scheme?

What do you mean ? Getting 220V from 12V without going through inverter ?

Offline baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4183 on: October 17, 2010, 04:35:50 PM »
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Personally i would not argue anymore if i have not conducted the suggested Cosmo experiment and draw conclusions. (soon)

And here we are. Today i found some time for experimenting with the experiment Cosmo described.
Procedure

I put together 17 (glued) ferrite rings 2000 Permeatability, Soviet type (40mm diam).
I wound on them one common electrical grade wire some 40 turns, and upon it some grade wire another 40 turns or less.

I took one handy transformer and put a 4amp (40w bulb) in series with the LV AC source so as to provide some 3,5 amps of 50 Hz AC current flowing from the top windings.
The bottom winding i connected it via an also handy spark-gap and to the custom made HV source i have composed of a 555 timer oscillator, an Ignition coil and a FWBR.

The particular HV source is pulse adjustably from 250 to 4000 Hz by the 555. In real terms i do not know if this is so or it speeds up by the HF currents interference as i have noticed in many respects of inverters interfering with spark-gaps.

The LV 50 Hz current of 3,5 amps is just too few to create a noticeable attraction to any ferromagnetic object at the end of custom ferrite solenoid. BUT, if i take a strong neo-magnet as Cosmo suggested the magnet tends to act as a magnifying glass, greatly enhancing the sensation of the created magnetic field around the solenoid. (my fingers still buzz)

From my setup and in any respect, i failed to perceive any change in magnetic field's behaviour by the application of the HV via the SG. I made some combinations using a ground, opposing polarities, pulsing the LV winding via a diode (one way wave), still no difference observed.

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Any suggestions?

PS: I observed that unconnected to LV transformer, the ferrite solenoid is electrified and small sparks go to my finger. I measured two points of a ferrite rings and DMM shoes it has a small but appreciable conductance

PS2: I put a coil inside the ferrite solenoid.This coil is not couple inductively to the outer coils.
The whole point of ferrite saturation and Coils inductive coupling reminds me Tesla's patent No 433,702.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4184 on: October 17, 2010, 04:51:41 PM »
Nice looking setup as usual!!

So your LV is ~10 volts.
How many volts in your HV?

Thanks
DonL

 

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