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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13966663 times)

Offline forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3975 on: October 05, 2010, 02:03:02 PM »
Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.  :'(

cosmo way is by enlightenment  not by a force

you should not use force to enforce peace but you should allow people to choose it by knowing the truth
with world full of greed pain illness it will  never help to release unknown force, economy will consume it and people become even more poor
let us know, understand then let us all choose

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3976 on: October 05, 2010, 02:22:11 PM »
Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.  :'(

cosmo way is by enlightenment  not by a force

you should not use force to enforce peace but you should allow people to choose it by knowing the truth
with world full of greed pain illness it will  never help to release unknown force, economy will consume it and people become even more poor
let us know, understand then let us all choose

This is just word play.

What I've said has everything to do with enlightenment. Most of us are here because of the truth and wanting to take action. The best we can do is show people the truth no matter how grim it is.
But if we want change it will be violent, there's no easy way out. Because the power that be will do everything to remain in control. And if the change wasn't violent we would end up in the same old situation as we do now. Violent meaning with great speed.

For me to perish by the sword would be a heroic thing. Because when I die I know I have died for the truth and I would have 0 regrets.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3977 on: October 05, 2010, 02:33:32 PM »
P.S.

http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm

try combine it together

Gentlemen,

  If I may have your attention, the only way we will enjoy the feeling of discovery is if we start slow and share what we have done. The last few pages show pictures, posted by Cosmo, that I believe has everyone, including myself jumping to conclusions and to point z.

  Perhaps it is best that we take some time to reflect on what it is our device must accomplish. Once we have a general idea of our process then we can break it down further and refine each process. Only then will we be able to combine them into a single device. I will try to make a bullet point list later if it helps us focus. I myself have no ferrite yet so any testing on that end is on hold. I would like to start with the 'link' shown above. Maybe I am wrong here but we need to focus on just the basics. Lets focus on simple (no transistors etc..).

 In the end this is a 'man made device'. I see no reason, if we all work together, why we can not solve this. The pictures posted are distracting and are allowing our imaginations to run wild. Maybe this is on purpose I simply do not know. But what I do know is that you can not build a car by simple looking at the finish product. I think it is important to replicate the experiment shown in the YouTube video. If someone wants to start with that it would be awesome. If others are not 'handy' at building then fret not. It would be a great help to review the last 20 pages or so and summarize any information dealing with 'a process'.

I want to repeat 'this is a man made device' it is capable of being replicated. Do I have any takers?

With much respect,

Core



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3978 on: October 05, 2010, 02:41:00 PM »
from your message i feel that you are already make some selfruning stuff.. hmmmm... or you just think that you are knowing all and everybody here are idi*ts, or what? :)

ehh....
when you understand that these all free energy researches and all things was happening are for unition of peoples and getting thinking on next level to bring humanity and consciousness.

And the Free energy devices are on second plane, the first is to make this humanity.
Nothing are happened just like that, everything has a reason..


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It seems that someone is wrong here!!!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3979 on: October 05, 2010, 03:04:48 PM »
In the meantime I learn to configure microcontrollers.
I need to divert myself from it a while.

Jesus

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3980 on: October 05, 2010, 03:24:37 PM »
@Cosmo,

Sir, thanks for some tips you've given, I love some challenges..... On your pict, it is very noticeable that there is another winding inside the core, may I ask what is that for? Is it a kind of winding that give some significant process? If you say yes, kindly give us a clue! That is something unfamiliar for me & looks very interesting.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3981 on: October 05, 2010, 03:35:41 PM »
Gentlemen,

  If I may have your attention, the only way we will enjoy the feeling of discovery is if we start slow and share what we have done. The last few pages show pictures, posted by Cosmo, that I believe has everyone, including myself jumping to conclusions and to point z.

  Perhaps it is best that we take some time to reflect on what it is our device must accomplish. Once we have a general idea of our process then we can break it down further and refine each process. Only then will we be able to combine them into a single device. I will try to make a bullet point list later if it helps us focus. I myself have no ferrite yet so any testing on that end is on hold. I would like to start with the 'link' shown above. Maybe I am wrong here but we need to focus on just the basics. Lets focus on simple (no transistors etc..).

 In the end this is a 'man made device'. I see no reason, if we all work together, why we can not solve this. The pictures posted are distracting and are allowing our imaginations to run wild. Maybe this is on purpose I simply do not know. But what I do know is that you can not build a car by simple looking at the finish product. I think it is important to replicate the experiment shown in the YouTube video. If someone wants to start with that it would be awesome. If others are not 'handy' at building then fret not. It would be a great help to review the last 20 pages or so and summarize any information dealing with 'a process'.

I want to repeat 'this is a man made device' it is capable of being replicated. Do I have any takers?

With much respect,

Core

I agree with you. From all what cosmo posted this is what I concluded:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg259691#msg259691

In last posts he said to combine the magnetic amplifier and the ferrite core. He also confirmed that high voltage spike(s) saturate the core with much less energy than would be needed with simple low frequency or even DC.

What isn't clear is why you need such a high frequency on the HV side. When your low voltage size is much lower in frequency. I thought maybe that one single HV spike isn't enough to saturate the core. You need a train of them. Perhaps this is why he recommended the initial experimenting circuits. So people can find out how many repeating spikes are needed to saturate the core.

In parametric energy gain the point is to "charge" up the LV LF coil when it has a low inductance. If I understand cosmo right, this is when the ferrite has been saturated by the HV. Due to low inductance this charging happens fast, when the LV LF current reaches it's maximum you stop the HV spikes and let the LV circuit relax discharging all of the magnetic energy.

ltbolo should know very good what I'm talking about.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3982 on: October 05, 2010, 03:41:34 PM »
It does not need specifically to be a ferrite rod, it also can be a piece of steel or iron.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3983 on: October 05, 2010, 04:13:55 PM »
I have few remarks/comments/etc.

About shielding:
Is it meant that the coils are to be outside and the other related electronics inside a shielded box ? Is this the reason for an aluminum briefcase in the recent photo from cosmo? As also with Kapanadze video's green box ?


About Donald Lee Smith's designs. Look at the phrase used there @ http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/DonSmith.html

Donald says his device is heavily commercialized, yet i can't find anything in Google.

"However, he says that he discloses enough for somebody who is experienced in radio-frequency electronics to be able to deduce the things which he does not disclose and so build a device for his own use. If that is the case, then anybody who has succeeded in doing so has kept very quiet about it afterwards (which is understandable). Having said that, Tariel Kapanadze of Georgia appears to have replicated one of the designs although it is quite likely that Tariel deduced the operating principles for himself. These principles are clearly based on the work of Nikola Tesla."

Tariel may not be the 1st one, since Donald was there in 1994 with very same design it looks to me.

This design says it all or not ?
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/DonSmith/Don27.gif

If this is correct, then the 6-turn big diameter coil L-1 is connected to HVolt/HFreq (like 8KV/35KHz).
"L-1 and L-2 coils are now present. L-1 has a smaller number of turns and is several times the diameter of L-2. Input from a 12 volt high-voltage laser driver source, produces 8,000 volts with a low level of wasted energy, pushing amperage into, say, 4 turns of coil L-1. Each turn of the L-1 coil then acquires 2,000 volts of resonant potential. Consequently, each turn of L-2 is then exposed to the electric flux of 2,000 volts. Each turn at the bottom end of L-2 acquires 2,000 volts. The flux lines are squared and are additive as the voltage and amperage progresses towards the top end of L-2's large number of turns.
A huge number of additional flux lines which were not previously present become present at the top end of the L-2 coil. These flux lines excite the nearby electrons in it's earth and air and groundings. This high level of excitement above the ambient, causes a large number of electrons which were not previously a part of the energy present, to become available for use. At this point over-unity is present in large amounts."


About the dark forces:
Only if this type device and knowledge is publicly known (like Vladimir Utkin does as example), it can break the grip of TPTB on people like us gathered here. The elite ("The Gods") has unimaginable more info and tools and gadgets as we can ever dream. Internet is only medium that may derail them.

To tell the truth, what Tariel did is not the right way. He wants mainly money out of it. He will have it, but not this way by patent. This way to go means to go along with the current system. Free energy (i say it comes from "freedom", and not "for free" or "no money to pay") was suppressed by the powers to build up the current system and control/lock us inside it. The spread use of OU device maybe derail it. So it makes no sense to swim with them and piss in the same pool. Better is to release it in public and collect the respect. In nature, there are no patents, no money, no electric from the plug in your wall.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3984 on: October 05, 2010, 04:16:26 PM »
In parametric energy gain the point is to "charge" up the LV LF coil when it has a low inductance. If I understand cosmo right, this is when the ferrite has been saturated by the HV. Due to low inductance this charging happens fast, when the LV LF current reaches it's maximum you stop the HV spikes and let the LV circuit relax discharging all of the magnetic energy.

ltbolo should know very good what I'm talking about.

Indeed. The circuit energy increases with the reduction of inductance * I2...like squeezing toothpaste out of a tube, I suppose. So you actually want to go to highest current with the highest inductance and then reduce inductance rapidly, as current reduces (dumping into a cap, usually) then increase inductance and repeat. While an interesting phenomenon, I'm not sure that it is OU. It may simply be that the reduction of inductance is forcibly converting magnetism into current, and offers nothing more. On the other hand, perhaps the process of forcing magnetic flux to convert before it was ready to do so on its own is dragging some aetheric energy with it.

Incidentally, that process is naturally happening here...the primary is increasing current in the secondary while simultaneously saturating the core. Not sure it is that simple though. The pictures are showing a coil within the core, and Kapanadze has made reference to not killing the resonance. That points me to using the saturated ferrite as magnetic shielding between the two (or more) coils to allow the electric fields to propagate without Lenz killing the resonance. That also agrees with Utkin's premise and is consistent with some of his proposed implementations.

Fun stuff, huh?

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« Reply #3985 on: October 05, 2010, 05:40:21 PM »
Thinking about the relationship between the inner coil with an external core and the outer coil with an internal core. I'm not going to draw it up...think about it yourselves...but...it looks like some interesting things might occur as the core goes resonant and forces the magnetic flux elsewhere. The charging configuration and discharging configuration would be very different. Still pondering the implications of that, but it appears to me that some stuff would be in phase that normally would not be.

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« Reply #3986 on: October 05, 2010, 06:12:25 PM »
@Cosmo

Can we see your schematics?

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« Reply #3987 on: October 05, 2010, 07:25:29 PM »
Thinking about the relationship between the inner coil with an external core and the outer coil with an internal core. I'm not going to draw it up...think about it yourselves...but...it looks like some interesting things might occur as the core goes resonant and forces the magnetic flux elsewhere. The charging configuration and discharging configuration would be very different. Still pondering the implications of that, but it appears to me that some stuff would be in phase that normally would not be.

Hmmm... This got me thinking of a Tube in Tube heat exchanger. Thermal energy is allowed to pass via the copper tubing due to the difference in energy levels (heat content). I enjoy your thinking. :)

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Core

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« Reply #3988 on: October 05, 2010, 07:39:17 PM »
I believe we need to think about Torsion fields/waves. Copper mass, HV sparking to generate torsion fields using a Bifilar coil to cancel the EM component and a way to capture and convert back those Torsion waves from the copper mass (another coil).

you have all the components in the design already, the 12ga stranded two overlapping coils, one is smaller to allow the coil to generate a small bias field (EM), the larger copper (5 or 6 turns) is the capture/converter. The core needs to be copper mass to amplify the torsion field. Move the 6 turn coil to the far end of the core away from the second coil, this 5 turn or so coil may overlap the first but should allow us to capture the torsion field and convert it back to EM thus allowing us to use it.

Gotta try this out....
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 08:59:32 PM by starcruiser »

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« Reply #3989 on: October 05, 2010, 07:47:39 PM »
To take the energy exchanger theory one step further. Ideally the higher energy flow is on the inside and lower on the outside. Also they flow in opposite directions. So where the low energy mass enters the heat exchanger the high energy mass exits. They are opposing each other, this maximizes energy transfer.

Some food for thought.

Respectfully,

Core