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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15827389 times)

Offline broli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3945 on: October 04, 2010, 06:50:54 PM »
yes, but you need to know that HV are only for help to make some processes in ferrite, and voltage not need to bee more than 3000 – 6000 volts. 4000 are ok

thanks for the answer. But when you say HV is for help only then it means the other process is a DC or AC circuit on the collector coil?
« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 10:14:19 PM by broli »

Offline cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3946 on: October 04, 2010, 06:56:24 PM »
http://files.mail.ru/D0YYP3

Utkin has make great job to describe this :)

"In this case (a), the system pushed ones will stop because of friction, resistance and so on.
And Mr. Tesla decided to arrange back loop as a loop in electro magnetic field (b), and said"

i want to add one thing "arrange back loop as a loop in electro magnetic field" (With ionisation, HV)
this make Magnetic field to stop BackLooping but... it not stops Back EMF fully

The missinformation comes from Bedini who are taking energy from Back EMF. but there this Back EMF are shielded. (two different thinkings and positions) there are nothing bad in this, this is normal...


place inside ferrite a coil!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w08QF4IzxkQ

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3947 on: October 04, 2010, 09:51:55 PM »
thanks for answer. But when you say HV is for help only then means other process is DC or AC circuit of collector coil?

Answer on: Reply #3952

Offline LtBolo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3948 on: October 04, 2010, 10:02:35 PM »
Isn't that just a garden variety saturable reactor? Nothing OU about that as shown. Help me understand what I'm missing Cosmo...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3949 on: October 04, 2010, 10:13:08 PM »
Me too.
Is a magnetic amplifier a overunity device or not.
Is the nmr effect responsible for the energy gain ?
nmr = nuclear magnetic resonance

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3950 on: October 04, 2010, 10:30:04 PM »
Me too.
Is a magnetic amplifier a overunity device or not.
Is the nmr effect responsible for the energy gain ?
nmr = nuclear magnetic resonance

no, magnetic Amplifier are not OU and ferrite with coils are not OU but combine it together.

"Is the nmr effect responsible for the energy gain ?" - yes but with all provided above together.

you need to understand i not make schematic clear here - i mean full schematics. it is in parts..

all device is something like "parametric converter" don't mess with parametric resonanse - this is my fault in early posts. i do not hawe so strong technical language and all this terminalogy...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3951 on: October 04, 2010, 10:37:48 PM »
The puzzle finally becomes clear. If you have a high voltage that can saturate the ferrite with less energy than an equivalent low voltage low frequency coil. Then that is exactly what you need on the secondary part to collect the magnetic energy as the domains relax again.

What's still a mystery is why the high frequency. I think it's because a single high voltage discharge is not enough to align all domains, you need many pulses. If you need 100 high voltage spikes to completely saturate the core then in the secondary this is when the low frequency current must be at maximum. Because now core is fully saturated and secondary can discharge slowly with much more energy than was needed to saturate it. E=0.5*L*I^2

However I made many stupid mistakes in the past so I am probably completely wrong.

Thanks cosmo for the guidance.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3952 on: October 04, 2010, 11:14:41 PM »
If you look in detail 100kW Kapanadze setup, then we can see the following:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CRkDySQCSM)

1. The voltage at the entrance of the system is 220 (x3), current 0A (blue cables)
2. The voltage at the output of the system is 220 (x3), current cca. 10A (x3)

System need Voltage, but no need current.
System produces current, no voltage.

And if you take the help of Cosmo......


p.s.

Analysis of the parametric converter
Sen, P. K.; Fam, W. Z.
IEEE Transactions on Industrial Electronics and Control Instrumentation, vol. IECI-26, May 1979, p. 93-98. Research supported by the National Research Council of Canada.

    The operation of a parametric converter which transfers electrical energy from the input to the output circuit by means of parametric oscillations is analyzed. The analysis of this highly nonlinear device is based on two main functional relationships which relate the flux in each of the two iron cores to the MMF's of the input and output windings and utilizes a fifth-order polynomial to describe the magnetization curve of the built-up magnetic structure. Expressions are derived for the currents in the converter windings, the parametric power transferred between the two circuits, the input power factor, and the required tuning capacitance.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 11:35:10 PM by Shokac »

Offline cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3953 on: October 04, 2010, 11:55:14 PM »
broli:
all humans make mistakes, i too make mistakes - without these mistakes i not bee there where i am. (actually thanks to these mistakes)

and last, i hope nobody who replicate this device are not release it publicly - i not release this for friends and anybody, situation is very confusing and i lost lot of friends (human nature unfortunately, if you don't tell then friends run away from you like from evil) it is hard to keep it in secret, but in 2011 - this need to be release. (something around 2011 maybe summer)

this is because i communicate, i like and i hope for showing up SR and Tariel on the network.

Tariel wants a money for its device, but i talked with him and i say him - this is not the way how to integrate device - device need to be integrate with help of comunity - all together but in the same time it not need to be integrated with schematics - this is little bit dangerous, because military background... there are lot of things going on around this device and all facts showing that military organisations don't know how to get free energy, they only manipulating about information and they do not know how to flying saucers work... So think: (it should be released publicly? i think no... this device need to be integrated by DressCode) or military sector have unlimited power to destroy planet – because there are too many sick peoples who monitoring whats happening and they want to control humanity and we all know that system what is now are totally wrong and don't have any humanity to humans...


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Offline LtBolo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3954 on: October 05, 2010, 12:23:32 AM »
all device is something like "parametric converter" don't mess with parametric resonanse - this is my fault in early posts. i do not hawe so strong technical language and all this terminalogy...

If it is truly a parametric converter, which based on what I've seen is possible, I can easily build a case why resonance is not needed. The currents in the spark can easily go to several hundred amps or more, and according to 0.5*dL*I2, a high current is more important than a big delta L. It's not too hard to build a math case why a 0.1 joule spark could become 0.2 joules or more of extra energy at the output coil. Do that repeatedly, and you can produce significant amounts of real power.

Offline cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3955 on: October 05, 2010, 01:02:52 AM »
If it is truly a parametric converter, which based on what I've seen is possible, I can easily build a case why resonance is not needed. The currents in the spark can easily go to several hundred amps or more, and according to 0.5*dL*I2, a high current is more important than a big delta L. It's not too hard to build a math case why a 0.1 joule spark could become 0.2 joules or more of extra energy at the output coil. Do that repeatedly, and you can produce significant amounts of real power.

now we can stop on this  ;)
all other info are DressCode, if something LtBolo - i think you have my mail if i correctly remember

yes, resonance here are not make a sense and this is the fault of many, many peoples.

(if you play a guitar, each string resonate by its own frequency, if you play a guitar - you think about resonance? No, because it has own frequency and resonates anyway. and no matter it is tuned or not tuned, it resonates and make a sound anyway. Other thing is if you combine more strings together and want to make a chord, then you need a tune of each string to make a harmonic)

i say it about half year ago in Energetic Forum, but nobody has react on this..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3956 on: October 05, 2010, 02:36:46 AM »
parametric oscillations and a spark gap go hand in hand.  The resistance of the circuit in the gap is the parameter that undergoes adjustment.  Going from very high resistance to very low resistance.  This swing can be controlled or tuned by magnetic feed back to the gap.  The magnetic feed back will determine the rate at which the plasma in the gap is formed and just as important deformed.  The spark gap oscillations not magnetically quenched will be randomized and multispectrum output will be imposed on the lc network south of the gap.  The lc will of course pickup some of the spectrum and resonate but it will only be a small proportion of the gain in the gap.  The electron cyclotron frequency is the scource of power.  Electrons are mass in motion.  When this motion is not confined to an orbital but becomes a plasma current the microscopic becomes macroscopic in effect.  Absorbed thermal photons are converted to electrical currents and a small percentage of high frequency photons.  Study Tesla's magnifying transmitter.  What was he magnifying.  I dare say he was magnifying the production and destruction of plasma in the spark gap.  Production of plasma is endothermic but the thermal photons are already absorbed by the gasses in the gap undergoing plasma synthesis.  The destruction of the plasma is exothermic but instead of just hot gasses condensing from the plasma the energy is drawn off as electronic currents and saturation and desaturation of transformer cores resulting from these electrical currents.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3957 on: October 05, 2010, 02:56:51 AM »
and last, i hope nobody who replicate this device are not release it publicly - i not release this for friends and anybody, situation is very confusing and i lost lot of friends (human nature unfortunately, if you don't tell then friends run away from you like from evil) it is hard to keep it in secret, but in 2011 - this need to be release. (something around 2011 maybe summer)

this is because i communicate, i like and i hope for showing up SR and Tariel on the network.

Tariel wants a money for its device, but i talked with him and i say him - this is not the way how to integrate device - device need to be integrate with help of community - all together but in the same time it not need to be integrated with schematics - this is little bit dangerous, because military background... there are lot of things going on around this device and all facts showing that military organisations don't know how to get free energy, they only manipulating about information and they do not know how to flying saucers work... So think: (it should be released publicly? i think no... this device need to be integrated by DressCode) or military sector have unlimited power to destroy planet – because there are too many sick peoples who monitoring whats happening and they want to control humanity and we all know that system what is now are totally wrong and don't have any humanity to humans...


With all do respect this is getting bizarre.

 Basically it sounds like if members on this forum and other forums start getting close, you, SR and friends will quickly try to derail them so that you and your friends can fulfill a perverted 2012 dream? I suppose with the coming of Aquarius you and your friends will be the 'New World Order'? You and your friends will decide what the people can have and what they can not?

This is bizarre.

Question: Why does SR have two different color windings on his coil? That appears to be two windings, I have never seen wire that changes color on the sleeve like that.     


Respectfully,

Core


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3958 on: October 05, 2010, 03:21:08 AM »

With all do respect this is getting bizarre.

 Basically it sounds like if members on this forum and other forums start getting close, you, SR and friends will quickly try to derail them so that you and your friends can fulfill a perverted 2012 dream? I suppose with the coming of Aquarius you and your friends will be the 'New World Order'? You and your friends will decide what the people can have and what they can not?

This is bizarre.

Question: Why does SR have two different color windings on his coil? That appears to be two windings, I have never seen wire that changes color on the sleeve like that.     


Respectfully,

Core

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I suppose with the coming of Aquarius you and your friends will be the 'New World Order'?
:o - no my friend that's not my job and this is not in my interest, i do not want to hold in hands something like peoples future and what they do :)

there is more than esoteric background in this, like black peoples who want to go faster like they can - but anyway, everything is happening like it need to be happening :)

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Question: Why does SR have two different color
windings on his coil? That appears to be two windings, I have never seen wire that changes color on the sleeve like that.

Think ;)
maybe SR's wire are to short and he make it from two wires, or maybe he have ferrite only on half side :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3959 on: October 05, 2010, 03:25:08 AM »
parametric oscillations and a spark gap go hand in hand.  The resistance of the circuit in the gap is the parameter that undergoes adjustment.  Going from very high resistance to very low resistance.  This swing can be controlled or tuned by magnetic feed back to the gap.  The magnetic feed back will determine the rate at which the plasma in the gap is formed and just as important deformed.  The spark gap oscillations not magnetically quenched will be randomized and multispectrum output will be imposed on the lc network south of the gap.  The lc will of course pickup some of the spectrum and resonate but it will only be a small proportion of the gain in the gap.  The electron cyclotron frequency is the scource of power.  Electrons are mass in motion.  When this motion is not confined to an orbital but becomes a plasma current the microscopic becomes macroscopic in effect.  Absorbed thermal photons are converted to electrical currents and a small percentage of high frequency photons.  Study Tesla's magnifying transmitter.  What was he magnifying.  I dare say he was magnifying the production and destruction of plasma in the spark gap.  Production of plasma is endothermic but the thermal photons are already absorbed by the gasses in the gap undergoing plasma synthesis.  The destruction of the plasma is exothermic but instead of just hot gasses condensing from the plasma the energy is drawn off as electronic currents and saturation and desaturation of transformer cores resulting from these electrical currents.

you have a great skills, wery nice to hear what you are saying  :) :) :)
True, True...

and there i find some guy in Energetic Forum who says"
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Do you have any idea how potent a statement the above is ? This is probably where many folks give up or simply can't connect the dots.

... THINGS MUST BE PROPERLY SHIELDED ... and much MORE than that ... THE RIGHT THINGS MUST BE SHIELDED IN THE RIGHT WAYS ...

Again, thanks,

Greg
... Dear greg, not only this :)




Little bit from me, just for motivation:
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