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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13870031 times)

Offline core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3795 on: September 28, 2010, 02:03:18 PM »
@all

My ferrite is on order and may take a few days to get. When I do this will be the first thing I do.
Please all share your results after experiment. :)

@cropersh
Hmm.. Your wiring diagram looks different them Cosmos. If im not mistaken Cosmo has his 'Primary' connected to his 'Secondary' the 2 black dots on the transformer schematic should represent a connection of the coils.

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If you can't observe the wind, you have a serious problem. Even prehistoric humans could observe wind.
We can observe the wind by its effects which are facts. We can even measure its speed (see "anemometer"). You should learn what an "observation" is. "To observe" doesn't mean "to see with the eyes". It means to acquire the proof of the reality of a phenomenon by the evidence of its effects and the possibility to measure its physical quantities.

The point was so simple it simple flew over your head. Perhaps I will rephrase the point for you.
If you look to put a number on 'God' you will 'never' find him.


I need to get my self to work.

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Offline Artic_Knight

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3796 on: September 28, 2010, 02:14:21 PM »
The Aether Physics Model says that there are two types of electric charge...two different forms of electricity...electrostatic and electromagnetic. Dollard said the same thing, although he called it magnetodielectricity and electromagnetism. Dollard further went on to say that a Tesla coil is actually converting the energy from electromagnetism to magnetodielectricity. They are not the same thing, and they do not work the same way.

in todays language i believe they call them longitudinal wave or maybe it was scalar waves. either case there appears to be a experiment on russian soil with a tesla wireless electricity tower im still looking into the detials as i barely have one mans word for it at this time but supposedly the initial wave of electricity was powerful but the echo or reverb was more intense than the origional. the planet had a way of amplifying the wave. i dont see how this is possible because one would think it would be amplified continuously and it doesnt.

also concerning where the possible cold side of the fridge is with electricity? well i cant say exactly but i know where the energy comes from i just cant harness it yet. it comes from the atom itself and its perpetual spin. ive been exploring magnetism trying to find a way to tap this spin. it appears it takes more than just magnetism, perhaps a special electricity or frequency i dont know but i know it will work. the same as tapping the wind we can tap the atom.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3797 on: September 28, 2010, 02:29:52 PM »
I will retry experiment with ignition coile. I also think I understand cosmo concept. High voltage like hammer, and electrons like apples in tree, and low voltage coil like fruit basket.

You bang tree with hammer and apples fall, then you quickly collect apples with basket. After you collect apples then you eat them = burning them on load.

When you make high voltage, electrons come from "air", then low voltage coil must collect this.

This why strong field of core is important, stronger field more electrons "fall".

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3797 on: September 28, 2010, 02:29:52 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3798 on: September 28, 2010, 04:07:54 PM »
If im not mistaken Cosmo has his 'Primary' connected to his 'Secondary' the 2 black dots on the transformer schematic should represent a connection of the coils.

Core

First - I'm no EE so I have to rely on others and the Internet (which isn't always correct).
I found this definition of the Dots on a transformer in a schematic:

"There is a method called dot convention which is used in transformers. The dot shows the direction of current flowing through the coil and whether the value of mutual inductance thus produced will be positive or negative."

I'm not sure if the wires are connected at the Dots or that this just means the positive connection (feed) is going into the coils at the Dots.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3799 on: September 28, 2010, 04:12:34 PM »

there appears to be a experiment on russian soil with a tesla wireless electricity tower im still looking into the detials as i barely have one mans word for it at this time but supposedly the initial wave of electricity was powerful but the echo or reverb was more intense than the origional. the planet had a way of amplifying the wave. i dont see how this is possible because one would think it would be amplified continuously and it doesnt.

also concerning where the possible cold side of the fridge is with electricity? well i cant say exactly but i know where the energy comes from i just cant harness it yet. it comes from the atom itself and its perpetual spin. ive been exploring magnetism trying to find a way to tap this spin. it appears it takes more than just magnetism, perhaps a special electricity or frequency i dont know but i know it will work. the same as tapping the wind we can tap the atom.

This is interesting.
Please post more information on the experiment if you get it.

DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Offline cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3800 on: September 28, 2010, 06:02:16 PM »
Hey Cosmo, i have tried several things like that (not that) with no success. Yes i haved use iron core and ferrite one 2000 pearmetability a bit smaller in dimensions but similar in making (USSR stock) to the one you mention. For HV i have used my Ignition coil pulsed at several KHz.
EIther applying HV via a spark-gap or not applying at all the core behaves as an electromagnet.

ps: In the photo i used AC directly from transformer. I have used also extensively Inverter setup (NPN-PNP pair) with the same result. The HV HF does not affect electromagnet performance at ALL.

What you say?

you use wrong wires, see my image. wires need to bee with isolation, this is great for spacing.
you need usual electric wire - not magnet wire. on first layer of coil are something about 40 turns


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3801 on: September 28, 2010, 06:14:12 PM »
i want to remind that you cannot get out from anything more than putting in, maybe you can get more voltage but no more amperes and so on, but there are no way to bypass physics laws - there is something more, what is not write in books, in no one book are writed this as i know.
so this experiment shows all, if you focus on right point of view.

Cosmo, you have been patiently trying to guide people in the right direction for a while now, and many people have treated you badly. I applaud your persistence and willingness to keep trying.

If there are unwritten physical laws that make it possible to do what we are all seeking, then no government or corporation can own that physical law...only a particular implementation of devices that use those laws. Scientific knowledge is generally published in journals and is not generally kept secret. I think you would be doing everyone a favor if you would simply talk about the unwritten physics law, rather than leading us around in the dark hoping that we will stumble into it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3802 on: September 28, 2010, 06:58:12 PM »
ok, make one of the devices SR or Tariel and then teach us how to transmitt from TC without loses and get Free energy.
Talking is great thing, but if starting theories, then all real work stops.

P.S.
Tariel work with magnetic fields too but in little bit different way as SR, yes he use tesla coil, but bifilar - but i do not want to get there too deep - specialy on Tariel device.

and "NO" there are not using electric Transmission system with TC - this is all theories and it ends with fail.
Transmitting electricity wirelesly, this is only technology to transmit and it is nothing to do with free energy.

YOU just claim you KNOW how Tariel device work.
I have NO prove yet hehe.. you have to give us something first :D so I cn trust you. 
Tarial cleims his device is based on Tesla work after all

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3803 on: September 28, 2010, 07:07:48 PM »
YOU just claim you KNOW how Tariel device work.
I have NO prove yet hehe.. you have to give us something first :D so I cn trust you. 
Tarial cleims his device is based on Tesla work after all

i say already why i`m not showing my works!
That's it, believe or not - your problem.

They who want to make it, they make.
yes i talked with Tariel personaly. I need approve this too, how and why? this is offtopic anyway...

P.S. you are talked like you know how to work this setups! why you talk if you do not know?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3804 on: September 28, 2010, 07:46:19 PM »
i say already why i`m not showing my works!
That's it, believe or not - your problem.

Cosmo, you don't owe anyone anything. And truthfully, your work...or even Tariel's work...is not the real issue here. I think the issue is the unwritten physics principle.

They who want to make it, they make.

It clearly isn't that simple. People have been playing with this stuff for decades and only a very few have stumbled onto the physics principle that you describe.

yes i talked with Tariel personaly. I need approve this too, how and why?

Tariel owns his devices and his patents...he does not own the physics. If he was willing to share the physics with you, then he is presumably willing to do so with others.


The experiment you suggested...does it demonstrate the physics principle?

The only thing I see about what you described is that the amount of HVHF power needed to scramble the magnetic domains may be lower than the amount of magnetic energy in the low voltage coil. That would be an interesting effect that might have implications for something like the MEG, where permanent magnets are used. I could also see that similar effects might be useful for magnetic shielding. On the other hand, if the HVHF energy is the same as the low voltage energy, I don't see anything interesting about using one coil to neutralize the field of another.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3805 on: September 28, 2010, 08:06:43 PM »
you use wrong wires, see my image. wires need to bee with isolation, this is great for spacing.
you need usual electric wire - not magnet wire. on first layer of coil are something about 40 turns

i like your attitude. You say its the wire responsible for. I do not remember for sure, but i think i have done it with audio speak wire, much like the electric one... anyway i am reluctant to say that for sure.

Question: Why the few turns, thick walled wires are suitable, is the spacing or the dielectric they provide?? Any other reason you suspect?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3806 on: September 28, 2010, 09:00:30 PM »
You have TC transmitter in Moscow and you have TC reciever in Banglasesh :D When you put light bulb load to TC reciever 1000km away , you claim that TC transmitter will FEEL it like load ?
It was kind of a joke above... but jets talk about TC reciever and transmitter at closer distances :D

In  reality energy send equals energy received after the loses. without energy send there is no energy received. That state  above fact that receiver is feed by transmitter.
In previous experiments with radio there was no power supply to receiver.
Therefore it is possible to create energy transfer using scalar waves.Scalar  Wave represents independently powered "repeaters-cells" able to transfer energy at no loss level as that energy is independent from the carrier (repeater-cell).
The recovery of energy utilized by "repeater-cell" take place at "it's own expense" similar to  magnet field recovery
(vertical repealing magnets in glass tube,one is pushed by  vector down e.g hand or force-recovers)
Than if there is dependency established between transmitter and receiver in the way that now we have transceivers from the both sides. That structure becomes permanent coupler in which energy from one is used to feed energy of the second and reverse.
There is no longer deal with losses that could be utilized same way as by Kapanadze or SR.
Part of energy received could be used to sustain motion of transmitter.
Such coupling is realized by the means of backward communication fallowing previously received energy.

So now the Russian friend is RIGHT and there is not so polite to laugh from that
Everything is relative
Wesley



 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3807 on: September 28, 2010, 09:01:03 PM »
i say already why i`m not showing my works!
That's it, believe or not - your problem.

They who want to make it, they make.
yes i talked with Tariel personaly. I need approve this too, how and why? this is offtopic anyway...

P.S. you are talked like you know how to work this setups! why you talk if you do not know?

First of all in one russian forum, there is member name "Tariel" who supposed to be Tariel Kapanadze. Is this true is that him ?

Other thing, this man for example has kind of different theory than yours

WHY is your every post related to SR and his ferrite core.  Who cares about SR and Ferrite if Tariel device use NO ferrite core. I dont see ANY relation between manipulating ferrite core and Tariel desing, if you are alrady here better give us clues about Tariel work. 

We can be here for 1000 years on forums without discovery.

BASIC principle can only be discovered by accident or can be GIVEN by GOD. You can not think new principle it never works that way.  Principle is given to Tariel and you, and you should keep it secret or share it. All work in the middle is kind of nonsense. I dont thnk anyone will crack this out just by too small clues..
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3808 on: September 28, 2010, 09:12:03 PM »
In  reality energy send equals energy received after the loses. without energy send there is no energy received. That state  above fact that receiver is feed by transmitter.
In previous experiments with radio there was no power supply to receiver.
Therefore it is possible to create energy transfer using scalar waves.Scalar  Wave represents independently powered "repeaters-cells" able to transfer energy at no loss level as that energy is independent from the carrier (repeater-cell).
The recovery of energy utilized by "repeater-cell" take place at "it's own expense" similar to  magnet field recovery
(vertical repealing magnets in glass tube,one is pushed by  vector down e.g hand or force-recovers)
Than if there is dependency established between transmitter and receiver in the way that now we have transceivers from the both sides. That structure becomes permanent coupler in which energy from one is used to feed energy of the second and reverse.
There is no longer deal with losses that could be utilized same way as by Kapanadze or SR.
Part of energy received could be used to sustain motion of transmitter.
Such coupling is realized by the means of backward communication fallowing previously received energy.

Wesley




THERE IS NO electromagnetic wave in TC transmitter there is just electrostatic field. WE KNOW that EM wave dimished by squzare of distance= TC  reciever at 50km feels PRACTICLY no EM radiation.
I think its we actually just send "information" NOT the energy

Many thinker think that scalar or radianth energy is kind of information .  REciever starts to oscilate by ground "sense".

Lets just think about this:

WE have really good TC transmitter with ver very high Q facotr. we have reciever 50 km away .. at such distance reciever cant feel pracicly NO EM wave , an not even capacity effect  cause height of top capacity of transmitter is much shorter than reciever distance or lety say 50km..

What we have in transmitter :? we actually have HUGE REACTIVE nergy oscilating.. lets say 100MW easily but we if big TC transmitter has no looses energy used to drive it is very low..

I dont see ANY WAY how will transmitter feel reciever as RESISTANCE in seeries or paralel to LC resonance. If transmitter cant feel reciever than LC oscilation is unaffected and energy is NOT used.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3809 on: September 28, 2010, 09:36:55 PM »
See how when things are going good, experiments are happening, positive energy & thoughts are flowing, these "theorists" and "arm chair" people show up to derail the positive flow?

Don't continue replying to them.
Just ignore their posts.


DonL




 

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