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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13849425 times)

Offline dole

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3676 on: September 22, 2010, 09:05:19 AM »
Philosophies and speculations... Any experiment lately supporting at least a hint of your words? ;)
Clearly all of us are out of realistic ideas..

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Concerning the heat pump analogy to kapanadze unit, i think this is not the case. The refrigirant liquid has the property upon pressure to liquefy (and be heated) and upon release from pressure to vaporize and cool.

What is the analog property of electricity so as to pump energy from environment?

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Concerning the heat pump analogy to kapanadze unit, i think this is not the case.

I talked with Tariel personaly and im not playing with words here, your choice is to think or not, do or not... if that all be that simple as you think, the eweribody can make it done.

The device on ARTE TV is hidraulic mechanic device, there is exclusive photo - of it:
i'm not have permission to put here it, but anyway...

http://www.failiem.lv/down.php?i=keeunp&n=DSC04760.JPG

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What is the analog property of electricity so as to pump energy from environment?
Analog are tesla coil - but way how to do it... think...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3677 on: September 22, 2010, 09:28:24 AM »
my choice is to think based on the facts i have on hand.
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You may have indeed a relation with Kapanadze..and you know by "leaking" information to this forum is the right (if not the only) way to go, otherwise you would not bother even talking here.

Unfortunately, if this thing is true then the modus operandi is very complicated, delicate and totally uncharted. Supposedly it has been discovered by Tesla's phenomenal genius. The propabilities to be discovered by common mortal (and willing to share afterwards) are infinitesimal..
So, as you can readily understand, we NEED serious help here... step by step i may add.

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Hidraulic? I can see a tank of pressurized air? liquid? ... any explanations with that?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3678 on: September 22, 2010, 09:35:14 AM »
my choice is to think based on the facts i have on hand.
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You may have indeed a relation with Kapanadze..and you know by "leaking" information to this forum is the right (if not the only) way to go, otherwise you would not bother even talking here.

Unfortunately, if this thing is true then the modus operandi is very complicated, delicate and totally uncharted. Supposedly it has been discovered by Tesla's phenomenal genius. The propabilities to be discovered by common mortal (and willing to share afterwards) are infinitesimal..
So, as you can readily understand, we NEED serious help here... step by step i may add.

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Hidraulic? I can see a tank of pressurized air? liquid? ... any explanations with that?

Hidraulic stuff are placed behind generator (Generator are front of image) in sand color.
and anyway the hidraulic stuff are not so big, it only make switching in sinchronous time on haf way wave

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3679 on: September 22, 2010, 09:37:50 AM »
Ok... what kind of help are you willing to offer? How extensive your "authorization" goes?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3680 on: September 22, 2010, 09:52:38 AM »
Ok... what kind of help are you willing to offer? How extensive your "authorization" goes?

all what i can say, i already told, if somebody not happy with this, then what can i do? :)
in Russian forums many are replicated this - not so many, but 3 peoples are successful results, I'm not guilty if in English speaking forums peoples not want to work and think :(

from me, no schematics and no photos and videos, this is my principle - believe or not (each choice)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3681 on: September 22, 2010, 10:04:44 AM »
I am not quite following you..
What you have said and what principle you have demonstrated and worked for few?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3682 on: September 22, 2010, 12:40:46 PM »
" To create such a "sink," or "cold hole," as we might say, in the medium, would be equivalent to producing in the lake a space either empty or filled with something much lighter than water.  This we could do by placing in the lake a tank, and pumping all the water out of the latter.  We know, then, that the water, if allowed to flow back into the tank, would, theoretically, be able to perform exactly the same amount of work which was used in pumping it out, but not a bit more.  Consequently nothing could be gained in this double operation of first raising the water and then letting it fall down.  This would mean that it is impossible to create such a sink in the medium.  But let us reflect a moment.  Heat, though following certain general laws of mechanics, like a fluid, is not such; it is energy which may be converted into other forms of energy as it passes from a high to a low level.  To make our mechanical analogy complete and true, we must, therefore, assume that the water, in its passage into the tank, is converted into something else, which may be taken out of it without using any, or by using very little, power.  For example, if heat be represented in this analogue by the water of the lake, the oxygen and hydrogen composing the water may illustrate other forms of energy into which the heat is transformed in passing from hot to cold.  If the process of heat transformation were absolutely perfect, no heat at all would arrive at the low level, since all of it would be converted into other forms of energy.  Corresponding to this ideal case, all the water flowing into the tank would be decomposed into oxygen and hydrogen before reaching the bottom, and the result would be that water would continually flow in, and yet the tank would remain entirely empty, the gases formed escaping.  We would thus produce, by expending initially a certain amount of work to create a sink for the heat or, respectively, the water to flow in, a condition enabling us to get any amount of energy without further effort.  This would be an ideal way of obtaining motive power.  We do not know of any such absolutely perfect process of heat-conversion, and consequently some heat will generally reach the low level, which means to say, in our mechanical analogue, that some water will arrive at the bottom of the tank, and a gradual and slow filling of the latter will take place, necessitating continuous pumping out.  But evidently there will be less to pump out than flows in, or, in other words, less energy will be needed to maintain the initial condition than is developed by the fall, and this is to say that some energy will be gained from the medium.  What is not converted in flowing down can just be raised up with its own energy, and what is converted is clear gain. Thus the virtue of the principle I have discovered resides wholly in the conversion of the energy on the downward flow."


Nikola Tesla http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1900-06-00.htm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3683 on: September 22, 2010, 02:22:32 PM »
I like when we get back to "fluid"analogies!
The aether as a fluid !
It is after all the best documented way to show OU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Like smashing rocks to light a fire,

@Wesley I'm quite sure the first guy that did that [smashing rocks..] ,those that were witness ,wrote  horror stories also!
We go on to survive these little moments...
It is our destiny!

And we don't have to "Smash" to light fires anymore,
and I'm quite sure there are other ways to work the aether,
as Tesla and others have Stated.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3683 on: September 22, 2010, 02:22:32 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3684 on: September 22, 2010, 03:08:40 PM »
my choice is to think based on the facts i have on hand.

  If it's not too much trouble would you mind sharing these 'facts' that you have on hand? I will take everyone's idea's and theory's seriously I have no interest arguing and belittling anyone. So please share as much as you feel comfortable with. :)

  @Cosmo no need to apologize for anything you have said. Words are the worst form of communication, they do not always convey the thought well. Also interesting point about that picture. That 'dark orange' cylinder in is a 'Refrigerant' tank. That is R-404a. I am not stating that he is using R-404a but find it an odd parallel based on my last post.

Good luck to all.

Respectfully,

Core     

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3685 on: September 22, 2010, 04:04:31 PM »
Also interesting point about that picture. That 'dark orange' cylinder in is a 'Refrigerant' tank. That is R-404a. I am not stating that he is using R-404a but find it an odd parallel based on my last post.

Good luck to all.

Respectfully,

Core   
Hidraulic stuff are placed behind generator (Generator are front of image) in sand color.
and anyway the hidraulic stuff are not so big, it only make switching in sinchronous time on haf way wave


Let's not focus too much energy & time on the hydraulic tank and it's use at this point.  Cosmo said it was no big deal.

First we need a working device then we can fine tune and improve it as Tariel did.

DonL


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3686 on: September 22, 2010, 07:38:51 PM »
all what i can say, i already told, if somebody not happy with this, then what can i do? :)
in Russian forums many are replicated this - not so many, but 3 peoples are successful results, I'm not guilty if in English speaking forums peoples not want to work and think :(

from me, no schematics and no photos and videos, this is my principle - believe or not (each choice)

I also read through all the russian forums and have not seen a Kapanadze replication .

Tiger has abandonned the Kapanadze for now in favor of the MEG .

His was too unstable , no power density . The Kapanadze device has lots of power .

I am planning a MEG , The witts document claims 325% and naudin 500% but that is low , the power density for the price is not worth the effort .

For a good high power density device you need to design an HVDC supply with IGBT's and a BIG MEG .


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« Reply #3687 on: September 22, 2010, 08:25:39 PM »

I am planning a MEG , The witts document claims 325% and naudin 500% but that is low , the power density for the price is not worth the effort .

For a good high power density device you need to design an HVDC supply with IGBT's and a BIG MEG .

I was looking at Naudin's replication of the MEG on his website a couple weeks ago.
Let me know if you start a new thread for building your MEG.
I'd like to follow your progress on the MEG.

DonL

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« Reply #3688 on: September 23, 2010, 06:35:35 AM »
... but who are going on that way they can take this DressCode.


Understood.

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Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3689 on: September 23, 2010, 08:06:10 AM »
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  If it's not too much trouble would you mind sharing these 'facts' that you have on hand? I will take everyone's idea's and theory's seriously I have no interest arguing and belittling anyone. So please share as much as you feel comfortable with. :)

Why not.

 What about of almost two years experimenting based on many internet's favourite OU principles as (Bedini, Adams, Meg, Perepiteia, Rotoverter, Tesla Coils, Kapanadze setups, Melichenko, pure LC resonance setups, allaged Kapanadze ferrite core/inverter setups, etc)
YES. I have experimeneted with all these and much more, yet a single principle of OU operation i could not found.

And the big fact of course, (apart from mine potential incopetence in this field) that no-one trustworthy has ever replicate or there is not a single third party replication of any of the hundreds OU machines.

Enough for you to put in scepticism?

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@Dllabarre,

i have tried to replicate a MEG man. This thing could ever work by the manipulating of the magnetic field as it claims. You know that i have posted photos and in my youtube channel videos explaining why.
A major magnetic flux cannot be manipulated by a minor one and thus gaining in the process. What you put is what you get minus losses there.

For those interested in MEG replication, this will be found useful for thought
http://www.youtube.com/baroutologos

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Concerning Tiger's setup
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The "tiger phenomenon" was first observed by Mito Kupona, then Madsatbg and replicated by me. Any 555-timer custom made inverter pulsing a coil's core, by the application of a HV spark-gap will lead to seriously increase its working speed (assuming it worked at 50hz and resulting in 1K or more). In the first case, those custom inverters are very inefficient and they work far long after the saturation point. By fasten the working frequency, even by cutting consumption at first glance and lighting a bulb fully, no energy is ever produced by more efficiently converted in the first place.

I said before and now i am saying it again. But people can grasp thing depending on their knowledge level i guess.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2010, 04:09:05 PM by baroutologos »

 

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