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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15823543 times)

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3465 on: September 01, 2010, 12:54:53 AM »
In our experiments with the Tesla Hairpin, we've seen resonances of up to ~35Mhz, but I have no reason to believe it wouldn't go higher.
Higher frequencies mean more power, generally at the square of the frequency, right?
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That was with a spark of about 1".
I'd say that's about 50,000-75,000 volts.  The current should be enough to kill?
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The discharge at that level is insanely loud...probably in excess of 120db of white noise...ouch. We bought shooting hearing protectors to wear when working in the lab. So yeah...it extends well into the audio range as well.
I did see a YouTube video of a hairpin circuit, running HV capacitors at the outputs. They were powering a xenon strobe light bulb at the end of 20 feet of magnet wire, about 28-30 gauge---and it was cool to the touch. 
But, it wasn't really loud and it was quieter than without the caps; just different.  They might have been using 10,000-20,000 volts from a Jacob's Ladder.  It surprises me that you need "ear defenders", as we called them in the U.S. Air force, for your work.   

You do all this in a Faraday cage?  The EMI should be more than merely *powerful*; it should blitz out all radio transceiving in that frequency range for quite a distance.  The Govt. where you are wouldn't be happy about that, if it were so.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3466 on: September 01, 2010, 01:16:41 AM »
I'd say that's about 50,000-75,000 volts.  The current should be enough to kill?

Yes, it's up there. It's strange though. With the caps discharging, the nature of the discharge completely changes...it becomes louder, brighter, and colder. In general, the power hurts to touch it...but it doesn't hurt you...if that makes sense.


But, it wasn't really loud and it was quieter than without the caps; just different.  They might have been using 10,000-20,000 volts from a Jacob's Ladder.  It surprises me that you need "ear defenders", as we called them in the U.S. Air force, for your work.   

When in cap discharge mode...as opposed to inductive discharge mode...the noise increases exponentially the longer the spark gets. We had them over an inch and the noise is bad enough that even with hearing protection, they are loud. As an inductive discharge the spark is yellow, hot, and quiet. Add the caps, and bam...blue, cold, and insanely loud. Doesn't burn paper...just perforates it. Weird stuff.

You do all this in a Faraday cage?  The EMI should be more than merely *powerful*; it should blitz out all radio transceiving in that frequency range for quite a distance.  The Govt. where you are wouldn't be happy about that, if it were so.

We're in the country...so no cage...and we haven't yet received visits. Pretty funny when it resets our building's phone system, though.

The hairpin is a great demonstration of Tesla's statement that 1 watt for 1 second wasn't very interesting...but 1 billion watts for 1 billionth of a second was amazing. I agree. The only difference is kinetic...but wow...what a big difference. Kind of like a gun...minor discomfort to my shooting hand...but death at the other end.

When you see all of the interesting effects that happen when a spark discharge enters the equation, and you consider that mainstream electrical math doesn't account for any difference between highly kinetic electricity and not, it becomes very clear to me that although the math is probably not wrong, it is definitely incomplete.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3467 on: September 01, 2010, 03:35:59 AM »
There appears to be an upper limit of a few mega Hertz.  The lower limit should be in the audio human hearing range:

http://www.ewh.ieee.org/reg/7/millennium/radio/radio_radioscientist.html

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SparkGap in Tariel device has far awy different meaning, it do selfresonant function..

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« Reply #3468 on: September 01, 2010, 03:40:01 AM »
SparkGap in Tariel device has far awy different meaning, it do selfresonant function..

Spark gap in virtually anything Tesla related was about striking something resonant. Bells only ring when you hit them...

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« Reply #3469 on: September 01, 2010, 05:52:45 AM »
...With the caps discharging, the nature of the discharge completely changes...it becomes louder, brighter, and colder. In general, the power hurts to touch it...but it doesn't hurt you...if that makes sense. ...
Indeed.  It does, in a way.  Brown's gas is described as being able to singe hair of your arm and not burn the skin.  It'll braze steel to brick with bonded integrity.  Really, that's what I read.  So, I believe your statement about cold electricity.  There's something about radiant energy that's not normal.  Brown's gas is similar.
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... As an inductive discharge the spark is yellow, hot, and quiet. Add the caps, and bam...blue, cold, and insanely loud. Doesn't burn paper...just perforates it. Weird stuff. ...
I'm not surprised.  Are you making a lot of ozone?---it has an obvious smell, and it's a really deadly poison.
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We're in the country...so no cage...and we haven't yet received visits. Pretty funny when it resets our building's phone system, though.
The American Idol show had a rock group that *played* Tesla coils, shooting 20,000,000 volt arcs.  The studio built a special remote sound stage to prevent the voltage and electromagnetic fields from killing their electronics.  So, I see your point about the phone system.
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The hairpin is a great demonstration of Tesla's statement that 1 watt for 1 second wasn't very interesting...but 1 billion watts for 1 billionth of a second was amazing. I agree. The only difference is kinetic...but wow...what a big difference. Kind of like a gun...minor discomfort to my shooting hand...but death at the other end.
Yeah, but it can be like a Lakhovsky coil's frequencies, right?  Tesla lived to be an old man, and his coils were probably the reason.

Got to go.  Later...

--Lee

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3470 on: September 01, 2010, 10:14:58 AM »
@Stivep

Thanks Bro, Eve though i dont know what you said  ;D. Do you think inrush current is what consumed when flash occur?. And if it did, do you think its the same with "the kick" that SM wants to point out?. SR said if i'm not mistaken the role of his spark gap was to remove the voltage from the line?. Are they related? And even Tito said "you have to put the pressure to the capacitor"?

Do you have any idea how to use in-rush current to obtain extra energy?
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« Reply #3471 on: September 01, 2010, 08:26:34 PM »
@Stivep

Thanks Bro, Eve though i dont know what you said  ;D. Do you think inrush current is what consumed when flash occur?. And if it did, do you think its the same with "the kick" that SM wants to point out?. SR said if i'm not mistaken the role of his spark gap was to remove the voltage from the line?. Are they related? And even Tito said "you have to put the pressure to the capacitor"?

Do you have any idea how to use in-rush current to obtain extra energy?

Yes,we have to find circuit potential. Those two tips are tightly connected.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3472 on: September 01, 2010, 09:38:55 PM »
Yes,we have to find circuit potential. Those two tips are tightly connected.

Would that be a shame if I say I do not know yet? or I'm not sure yet ?
Another words when I stated something on this forum I was 100% convinced that I'm right.

At this time I'm not convinced  100%
 I do not want  to put anyone in wrong thinking because of respect  I have earn with you guys

I'm NOT showman.

Wesley

PS: this  kind of statement says only that what looks simple is not simple at all.
 

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« Reply #3473 on: September 01, 2010, 10:24:35 PM »
Philosophical and physical calculation:

some basic about spark:
 when you have 10kg hammer  on the table it puts the pressure( vectorized force) of 10kg on the table but when hammer slipped down from the shelf  from 3 feet hight then impact will be much greater than leading force.

The direction of the force is the same but the impact is oveunity. (So what if it cost energy of gravity, who cares?. Does cost you a dime?)
Even if we subtract energy of sliding the hammer from the shelf the total impact  energy is greater

another example:

We have  two 10kg magnets (toroidal with hole inside) and one of them is on the table but second one is repealing  due to magnetic force.
In the middle we have vertical plastic  rod .
The upper magnet appearers to be suspended in the air
Someone pushes that magnet  from the top of it  down ( vector down)  with one pulse only.
The magnet recovers its own energy by vector force oriented up.


1.Can anyone explain what this energy is coming from?
2. does magnets represent potential or kinetic energy?
3.Do we have overunity that is  so damn easy to prove? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. even if after 100 years the distance between the magnets  is smaller who cares.
5 everything that  works longer  with no additional cost than typical life span of human is(at minimum) perpetual motion  yes? or no? - (in philosophical mathematics)

6.Do you see similarity between spark  and energy of spark and hammer?
7. Do you see similarity of recovering energy of spark converted into the "ferrite activation" force
or
simple example: that if one knock you in the head instead of the same force being applied -"of  gentle female hand spread on your body."
Than
Your attention to the knock will be immediate reaction  activating your brain instead of slow activation of another part of your body that will not be as creative?

Wesley

Ps: Think about the force of jumping spark and diameter of the spark, and
 compare it to pulse(knock) of 10kg applied to the thick nail and 10kg (knock)applied to  needle (with respect to the fact  that needle is not going to brake)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3474 on: September 02, 2010, 02:02:24 AM »
I am very sorry to interrupt your discussion,  this is last research, HF HV AC dipole generate potential difference, if  you connect one pole to ground this will generate strong vibration on the other pole. I still do not know how to utilities this.  It may depend on inductive relation, one wired Tesla electricity transfer, still testing.  Tesla transformer -> HV output 10Kv AC –> one wired to ground -> other to copper coil 30 turns-> strong vibration. Ps. Kapandze never use ground connection directly to load, carefully watching will conclude in induction relation, same as Tesla.
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« Reply #3475 on: September 02, 2010, 07:03:22 AM »
@Wesley

Thanks for your honesty bro... But what is your analysis if I connect a capacitor and transformer, put one terminal to the ground and put some load..

I hope you wont find me too annoying? thanks again..

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« Reply #3476 on: September 02, 2010, 08:17:57 AM »
@Wesley

Thanks for your honesty bro... But what is your analysis if I connect a capacitor and transformer, put one terminal to the ground and put some load..



@DimaWari,

Go ahead and try it!  Your capacitor needs to have a very high voltage rating to avoid failure, the circuit oscillates at a high frequency so may not provide a goog match up with the transformer type you intend to use... and may tend to load the circuit down! but experimenting is what it's all about. Just be careful of what you are doing though.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3477 on: September 02, 2010, 10:59:14 AM »
Philosophical and physical calculation:

some basic about spark:
 when you have 10kg hammer  on the table it puts the pressure( vectorized force) of 10kg on the table but when hammer slipped down from the shelf  from 3 feet hight then impact will be much greater than leading force.

The direction of the force is the same but the impact is oveunity. (So what if it cost energy of gravity, who cares?. Does cost you a dime?)
Even if we subtract energy of sliding the hammer from the shelf the total impact  energy is greater.

You left out the all important amount of energy to lift the hammer up to the shelf in the first place.  When that is factored in, you will see it all balances out to energy in=energy out.  At least in this example with the hammer.

Bill

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« Reply #3478 on: September 02, 2010, 01:03:30 PM »
About circuit potential. Imagine you have a bunch of wood boards. It is your potential to use them , maybe you would like to make a table or a chair ? Fine. No overunity here  :P

Suddenly someone pute those boards into river and made a small dam. Now they have small potential as a chunks of wood without complex structure but also they have a potential related to water flow disturbance - someone make it part of external circuit allowing to accumulate OUTSIDE cosmic energy....

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« Reply #3479 on: September 02, 2010, 02:36:08 PM »
You left out the all important amount of energy to lift the hammer up to the shelf in the first place.  When that is factored in, you will see it all balances out to energy in=energy out.  At least in this example with the hammer.

Bill

Very smart  answer Thank You for  your comment.



 
Total balance and energy loss:

The all calculation is purposely
omitting the factor of initial lifting power ,assuming that process start from the point of sliding hammer  from the shelf. And  below there is explanation  why.............

1.If you do not start to count power balance,  when measuring " insertion loss" of resonance circuit adding all energy used to manufacture the circuit  but  concentrating yourself on -(S,2,1 parameter)( very important-see: S-parameter it is forward-reflected SWR and VSWR balance of resonant circuit )

or

2.If you do not start to count balance repealing energy of the upper magnet starting from the point of assembly-manufacturing of two magnets and assembly of the vertical 2 magnets set

and

So if  calculating the actual electric and magnetic properties you start from O (Zero) Minutes Time of Any Given Time

than
Newtonian Relativity is to be applied in here.

body once put in motion stay in motion all the time
See   http://galileoandeinstein.physics.virginia.edu/lectures/newtongl.html (this link is only for patient one to dig  in it)

The point I wanted to make is that we benefit from:
1. someone/something is losing energy (initially) in order to start   the process   http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/deepspace_propulsion_000816.html
but
the ion engine uses properties of space to use small amount of energy to recover  the losses.This engine does not calculate energy balance from perspective of earth but  from perspective of space environment.

 Impact of accumulated  power of spark is the  the small amount of energy added to recover  the losses
 and provides  initialization ACTIVATION  of ferrite.

Scalar Waves should be the explaining factor.

Thanks to Vladimir Utkin the father  my education and the most if not only one - brilliant mind One who is to be recognized  as next Einstein.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine the string of light bulbs anywhere and everywhere around you everyone of them has independent internal power supply.(the magnetism and gravitation of the earth)
They operate at the same frequency.
One has send the initial signal and than each of the bulbs activate the next one.
Than communication(energy transfer) is possible  with  other "receivers" including one in "Faraday Cage"
No propagation, or the frequency shift  affects that process.
human body utilize Scalar Waves to communicate with the brain.
The whole concept of Kapanadze must than be  overseen from the perspective of Scalar Waves.
The spark is only necessary component in  inter-inner communication.



So my friend Can you comment that? Or is self explanatory?
   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wesley

PS: We do not care about solar system creation process and stabilization of gravity and earth rare magnets
we just  walk on the service of the  planet and use energy of gravity (to walk) and energy of Earth Magnets
as well.

All you need my friend is  walk , use energy and do not ever pay for it( in within your life span)
« Last Edit: September 02, 2010, 03:02:48 PM by stivep »