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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16404438 times)

Shokac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3345 on: August 06, 2010, 08:37:30 AM »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3346 on: August 06, 2010, 09:55:31 AM »
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Interesting !
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcyberenergy.ru%2Fgenerator-kapanadze%2Fustanovka-tiger2007-t19.html

d.

I studied the videos there and guidelines. What the Tiger suggests more or less is that an application of HF HV to a capacitor like "antenna" that the ferrite is placed between the plates makes a weak initial signal by the transistor (unable to light the bulb and of high drain measured with analogue A-meter) to an appropriate one able to light the bulb yet the drain to fall considerably.

In the past, MitoKupona, MadsatBg and Coke2k (i think) have experienced the same fact.
Initially was thought that this is attributed to "energized ferrite" that result in B-field amplification.

Later on, it became more and more evident the possibility that the pulsing circuit (555 or whatever) of transistor was affected by the HF created by the SG and ground application resulting in considerably increased operating frequency (eg 1KHz instead of 50 Hz)

When the 50Hz no SG application mode works in the suggested "ferrite saturation and beyond" mode, a lot of energy goes wasted. Only a minimum can pass to the bulb. On the contrary at higher pulsing modes, since the pulsing operates at considerably lower region than ferrites saturation, the energy transfer is more pronounced. IMO this is the main possibility since i had a similar setup (pulsing a ferrite E core with 555-MOSFET) and by the application of HV and SG i noticed this effect but with more energy consumption rather decline.

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This is not aimed at discouraging anyone to investigate the effect, rather to keep it in mind when proceeding so.
This would be NOT the case if the Tiger demonstrates - as he claimed - to operate 1,2 or 3 220volts 100watts bulbs at full brightness from a setup such this. (said 3 amps at 12volts input)

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regarding the winding topology, placing one winding at stacked ferrite's core one end and the load winding at other ends up in poor energy transfer. Ideally windings should be one on top of the other or in biffilar coil mode. There is then the problem that during pulsing , the load winding will remove some energy from the primary one. (magnetizing phase)
This could be overcome by the suitable application of a diode so as to block the current during magnetizing phase and allow current formation during demagnetizing phase (collapsing field)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3347 on: August 06, 2010, 03:07:11 PM »
@Bart, @Dole and others

There is the possibility that Doles circuit is not pulling current from the ground but instead providing a "good ground" for current to flow through his circuit.

In the video, when Dole's circuit is NOT connected to ground rod very little or no current flows (I'm not sure if the bulb is lit or not).  Then when Dole touches the ground rod the bulb lights.

I'm not trying to discourage this circuit so don't jump on me.

It's needs to be proven, by measuring the amp draw from the power source with the ground connected and not connected.

If in fact the circuit is pulling amps from ground then the input current will stay the same or decrease when Dole connects his circuit to the ground rod as the bulb gets brighter.
Just a simple test to prove where the current is coming from.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3348 on: August 06, 2010, 06:38:13 PM »
Hi,
@ dllabarre, yes input current does not change it is jumping around  2-3,2A 12V (max 4A) with or without bulb incl. inverter, I steel do not believe, no OU but…
I was thinking let's feed this back to source with car voltage regulator (like Kapanadze does), but I forgot to check the reg so I managed to burn out Inverter.
I may say that I was down to 1A 12V input yesterday night. Voltage across bulb is stable 212V current 0,2A, AC, freq steel to high 3KHz.
I don't know what to say more. Please here is how I started:

----|DC NST|---- |+| -> to nothing
----|          |---- |-| -> to bulb -----> ground

I will fix new inverter and post new video with analog and digital measurements.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3349 on: August 06, 2010, 06:47:52 PM »
Hi,
@ dllabarre, yes input current does not change it is jumping around  2-3,2A 12V (max 4A) with or without bulb incl. inverter, I steel do not believe, no OU but…
I was thinking let's feed this back to source with car voltage regulator (like Kapanadze does), but I forgot to check the reg so I managed to burn out Inverter.
I may say that I was down to 1A 12V input yesterday night. Voltage across bulb is stable 212V current 0,2A, AC, freq steel to high 3KHz.
I don't know what to say more. Please here is how I started:

----|DC NST|---- |+| -> to nothing
----|          |---- |-| -> to bulb -----> ground

I will fix new inverter and post new video with analog and digital measurements.

d.

Excellent!!!   :)

Thank you.

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3350 on: August 06, 2010, 07:13:31 PM »
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@Bart, @Dole and others

There is the possibility that Doles circuit is not pulling current from the ground but instead providing a "good ground" for current to flow through his circuit.

In the video, when Dole's circuit is NOT connected to ground rod very little or no current flows (I'm not sure if the bulb is lit or not).  Then when Dole touches the ground rod the bulb lights.

I'm not trying to discourage this circuit so don't jump on me.

It's needs to be proven, by measuring the amp draw from the power source with the ground connected and not connected.

If in fact the circuit is pulling amps from ground then the input current will stay the same or decrease when Dole connects his circuit to the ground rod as the bulb gets brighter.
Just a simple test to prove where the current is coming from.

DonL

Hey man, you are not discouraging anyone. We are all theorize (based on our experience) investigate and experimenting. We are seeking the truth and not a story to believe in.
Yes perhaps you are right.

@ Dole,

I have noticed the same thing, Dole, with my 555-transistorized run ignition coil with a FWBR applied.
I can light a small bulb (12v 20ma) with the application of only the negative lead (-) and a real ground.
Perhaps i could light a higher power bulb also.
By the way, this would not result in a serious low frequency amperage push/pull rather than a HF current oscillation between aparatus' one-terminal capacity and ground.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3351 on: August 06, 2010, 09:38:11 PM »
@bart
Correct, and then I start to play with + terminal one day in the basement,
independently, what somehow got effect on -, end that was not expected.
You will not believe. I connected + to 20m coax and raised then up
and suddenly picture on the wall start to burn, nails in the frame glow,
I was able to draw heavy bolt of almost everything, wooden chairs, metals,
coil connected to anything sparked to ground, energy was all over,
I will a make video to one day. I think I played one hour in that midnight with
a fat wire in hand drawing sparks from everything in the room, just for 35W.
End then again everybody knows, Tesla stop and almost forgot AC, HV-DC was the future,
bat does anybody have one document on that? So HV DC is definitely something to look deeper in to.
Look in the Kapanadze patent there is +/- there. "Knowledge cannot be hidden only forgotten".

ps
"HF current oscillation"? there was pure HVDC no SG, i think troth oscillation must be through RLC not SG or pulse.
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3352 on: August 07, 2010, 03:21:23 PM »
In the meantime of a learning progress neighbors from .ru mention the related link,

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=no&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://astranet.ruforums.net/--vt18.html%3Fsid%3D28bfae01083d12dc226b4d96eec3fe22&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhiKUuPRT5DJG0DAXQ3rKGf310MGYA

Anyway the best way is learning by doing. So we have to try

d.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3353 on: August 07, 2010, 05:03:49 PM »
In my YouTube I was limited with  time .Here I try to attach longer explanation of difference  between series resonant network and Free energy toroidal transformer.
 To see more there are two links additional link but I hope the video I'm trying to download now. will be downloaded successfully. (I do it for the first time)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhDcADo7jjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcuINqlaH6w&feature=related


OK it looks like I'm not able to attach file of 216MB
I see the limit 300KB
Can anyone educate me how can I attach 14 minutes video clip that without any shortcuts will be able to cover  all of the knowledge beneficial to others and much easier to understand than my"short form" clip#12  from YouTube?

   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3354 on: August 07, 2010, 05:45:19 PM »
There is a 5 megs space here on this OU.com server

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads

But first you need to compress your vid using XVID or H264 and bitrate 150k is watchable. If you seen the Don Smith video here

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/

I uploaded this and its been a box office hit the free energy world! But i had to squeeze this 66 minute DVD to under 100 megs file cap, actually i think it about 86 megs so its roughly 1 meg per minute which is pretty small.

BTW Mmmm what a lovely lab you got I want one!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3355 on: August 09, 2010, 12:19:35 AM »
Hi,
I made some new investigation today; I hope this may be of interest so apologize if this is not a case.
First I would like to correct one ting, DC NST producing DC but pulse DC, fully rectified AC and
it means not reversing polarity so. We can for shore say that connecting load to one nonreversible polarity HV “DC” source end
to the ground produce current according to potential difference and depending of resistant of the load.
Since there is not close loop circuit input current will not significantly change according to load applied to the one terminal in the receptivity to the ground.
Load dissipation can be further split so that some small present is feed back to the source and produce magnification of effect until maximum is reached depending of condenser capacity.
Load dissipation should be done through induction transformer. Source as pulse dc may be produced from preferably charged condenser by HFHV (SG, TC),
since dissipation need to have as maximum 50Hz through induction transformer (coil) it will be enough to support the load and charge condenser trough HVHF source  and process will continue by itself.
We may need ferrite core transformer in front condenser charged from HVHF source.
Resonance is then adjusted according to 50Hz dissipation frequency and charging frequency and needed transformer induction.

So please comment.

PS.
I discovered some new tings in the kapandze video but no more time for now.

d.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3356 on: August 09, 2010, 07:53:43 AM »
Dole,

If you ask me, i have not a clue what are you talking about. Anyway, is there any way to demonstrate experimentally what you say?

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« Reply #3357 on: August 09, 2010, 10:20:03 AM »
@bart
Sorry for clumsy expression, that is how I see it and of course working on,
it will take some time to define all components and adjustments,
if it is correct then will work if not then we steel missing something.
But any attempt, wrong or right, will results in something, at least in some truth.

Ps.
Inside coax winding, TK have en copper pipe winding coil and this one is connected to outside cooper pipe
and other and to load, this may be a pickup coil from first coax induction coil.
Its look like copper pipe is later exchanged with copper tube.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #3358 on: August 10, 2010, 12:55:43 AM »
@bart
Sorry for clumsy expression, that is how I see it and of course working on,
it will take some time to define all components and adjustments,
if it is correct then will work if not then we steel missing something.
But any attempt, wrong or right, will results in something, at least in some truth.

Ps.
Inside coax winding, TK have en copper pipe winding coil and this one is connected to outside cooper pipe
and other and to load, this may be a pickup coil from first coax induction coil.
Its look like copper pipe is later exchanged with copper tube.

d.

It has D size flash light batteries inside the tube to run the 12 volt LED lights re-marked as 100 watts.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 04:55:03 AM by bolt »

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« Reply #3359 on: August 10, 2010, 12:48:24 PM »
It has D size flash light batteries inside the tube to run the 12 volt LED lights re-marked as 100 watts.

@bolt
Please, how you see this?

Further, what I see, the outer and the inner coil are whole wounded of copper pipe in Tesla coil fashion with an coaxial cable inside. This may be then an aluminum shield coax with copper pipe outside. Shielding seems grounded and the inner coax wire is joined through the spark gap. (Coax can also act as good capacitor). In the reassembled output coil later, we see thin wire at one end of the inner coil (that's way may be coax in the inner copper tube to).  In the spark gap it is look like he uses mercury between rods of aluminum and copper (arc rectifier). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_arc_valve
Please if anyone can point to something more, or correct wrong, it would be appreciated.

ps.
Yesterday I invested more in induction copper/coax, resulted in much brighter bulb but in higher input to. I did not curve (bend) copper pipe with coax as coil jet, but it was possible lighting bulb just through induction of one wire and ground. Next it may be important to test effect of aluminum shielding in the coax connected to separate HV source. There is 4 layers and 8 ends  :) plus induction in them, between them and in the outside relation to play with, so if someone have a time or any opinion, thanks.

d.
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