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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407145 times)

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #285 on: July 08, 2009, 09:13:24 PM »
@HeairBear: I agree with you on most of your points. I wish a tesla coil could be simulated, but the radiant energy is not considered by the program unfortunately

BUT a MOSFET is such a simple device and i think there is no discussion about the fact that
a N-type MOSFET wont conduct when there is no signal at the gate
except one uses a "Tesla MOSFET" ;)
A P-type MOSFET with inverted control signal could already make it work.

The diagram is not "wrong" but incomplete.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #286 on: July 08, 2009, 09:49:45 PM »
Sorry, my confusion. I'm not sure how you are going about this. The diagrams posted are from another replicator, but, it is incomplete? Is there any diagrams posted originally from Tariel that are complete? Is Tariel still around to answer these important questions? I feel he is the only source to make it work as he did. I also think all the replication attempts and everyone's effort here on this thread are great, but, I don't have enough information to replicate the device myself with confidence.

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #287 on: July 08, 2009, 10:31:11 PM »
I have invited the hungarian replicator to this thread, but he has not yet posted anything here. He did reply to my email though, he might be busy or not really interested, who knows. The origin of the diagrams is unknown, only he would know.
If you compare the diagram to Kapanadze`s patents you quickly recognize that it is incomplete and even deviates from the patent by having two transformers instead of one (or 3 circuit parts instead of 2) in there.
Kapanadze was never "around" anywhere in the open source engineering community, his course is of a commercial nature which i personally don´t blame him for, it´s his decision.
I have read on the russian forum that he is said to be checking their discussion frequently just to laugh about their attempts to replicate.

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I don't have enough information to replicate the device myself with confidence.

No-one has. People just started to build on their own. As i understand there is 2 russians that have
"something" running, but i don´t know how far they have gotten.
From all documents about Kapanadze, the russian one by Viktor makes most sense and adheres to the patent as you can see in my post earlier.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #288 on: July 08, 2009, 11:46:40 PM »
It really gets to me that these people laugh and well as far as i know my extreme passion for this is making everyone feel that.

I don't even doubt it for a single second that this won't work because it is a valid principle whether you believe in zero point or not.

I really want this to happen but at the end of the day...riddles again.

Tariel needs to watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU even though i do not believe in evolution.

electricme

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #289 on: July 09, 2009, 03:26:20 AM »
@ HeairBear,

Just because a simulation shows it can't work does not mean the diagram is wrong or drawn incorrectly. More times than not, a free energy device is presented and a trained EE will examine it only to say it can't work in it's current configuration and they start to change it from the original. Always build it as drawn and prove beyond a doubt to yourself it wont work before changing anything. I see many people on this forum who use substitutions and get no results and call it debunked. Is it possible to make a Tesla coil work in a simulation?

Now I'm glad to see someone with some common seance (I'm not saying anyone is dumb), as HeairBear has pointed out, the educated EE types have been getting only one side of the energy platform, as being tought by the regular electrical people, so if something different comes along, it is seen as unworkable.

Take a physical look at this "tesla" coil for instance, all tesla coil makers will say the wire on the secondary is too fat/thick. BUT, is it? this "tesla coil is not designed to make lightning bolts, only to produce low voltage at a high amperage.

Different colours the coil is wound with may reflect just a shortage of wire in say a blue insulation, the colour of the insulation doesn't matter, its the correct wire cross sectional area and length that matters.

Now, has anyone picked up a key element of this coil arrangement?
I posted back a bit about this but haven't seen a responce, so it seems it was missed.
There are a couple of frames at the end of one of the videos, I forget now which video it was, BUT this coil was being held UPSIDE DOWN.

I'm NOT going to tell you what I saw, (I have already done this in a previous post), rather I encourage you to go and take a look again yourselves. Its a KEY.

Another point is this, I hooked up my frequency meter to my earth battery, and it is fluctuating in readouts, look at the VIDEO I posted, the waveform is changing constantly, as Stefan has said, has anyone got a way to save their readings and post them.

So why did I post my EB scope shots? because it the same energy in the ground the "invention" is hooked up to.

jim
   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #290 on: July 09, 2009, 03:27:03 PM »
Now, has anyone picked up a key element of this coil arrangement?
I posted back a bit about this but haven't seen a responce, so it seems it was missed.
There are a couple of frames at the end of one of the videos, I forget now which video it was, BUT this coil was being held UPSIDE DOWN.

I'm NOT going to tell you what I saw, (I have already done this in a previous post), rather I encourage you to go and take a look again yourselves. Its a KEY.

Attached is the simple screen grab (not enhanced).
How many coils are there (arranged inside each other)?
Only 2 (primary and secondary)?
Is the inner one wound conically i.e does it have a bigger diameter on the right (blue) side?

@Groundloop
when you wrote that you lit a LED from (the secondary of) your small Tesla coil,
- was there a spark gap involved?
- was one leg of the LED attached to the secondary?
- when there was not ground connection and the LED was less bright, was the second leg of the LED  not connected to anything?

(Maybe my questions don't make sense because I misunderstood something basic.)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #291 on: July 09, 2009, 03:40:58 PM »
@oscar,

It was not a Tesla coil. There was inductive coupling between coils, NOT
resonance. Both my coils was connected together at the ground point.
The led was connected between this ground point and to earth ground.
The led was very dim when one end was not grounded to earth ground.
The led was bright when I grounded it. There was a 1mm spark gap used.

Edit: Connected like in the drawing.

Groundloop.

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #292 on: July 09, 2009, 06:42:27 PM »
Attached is the simple screen grab (not enhanced).
How many coils are there (arranged inside each other)?
Only 2 (primary and secondary)?
Is the inner one wound conically i.e does it have a bigger diameter on the right (blue) side?

Russian forums confirm the observation that one coil is indeed wound conically.
You can also see on the pic that to tune the coil, the inventor has welded (tapped) the 6 turn secondary (its a downward transformer after all) maybe to find the resonance by "try and error" as had been suggested before.

There is many "keys" in that invention, one of them is certainly attributed to the thick welding leads, because the "Circuit B" is supposed to miraculously carry lots of amps, so the wire size needs to be chosen accordingly.
And "Circuit B" is the neckbreaker of that whole thing (Phase, frequency shifting etc.), "Circuit A" is 90% self-explanatory.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #293 on: July 09, 2009, 08:53:05 PM »
I've posted a feature page here: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Kapanadze_Free_Energy_Generator

Feel free to update, correct things.

Has the possibility of inductive coupling to grid power been ruled out?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #294 on: July 09, 2009, 09:05:02 PM »
Sterling,
This was one of the first things considered!

Chet

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #295 on: July 09, 2009, 09:10:48 PM »
................. well i still have faith regarding the pyramid and peter grandics anyways and the earth batterys and power from the plants.

I wouldn't completely rule it out but then i wonder if he was near a powerline.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #296 on: July 10, 2009, 01:52:00 AM »
@Oscar,

Thank you for the screen grab, (I don't know how to do this), showing the "Upside down image of this Coil", well done.
 
Attached is the simple screen grab (not enhanced).
How many coils are there (arranged inside each other)?
Only 2 (primary and secondary)?
Is the inner one wound conically i.e does it have a bigger diameter on the right (blue) side?

This photo raises more questions doesn't it.
So looking it it, I'm thinking, If I was making this thing, and wanted it to be portable, how would I do so.
The amount of copper wire wrapped on it would be quite weighty.
I assume I would make the heavy ground leads a seperate item, so I would have a plug and socket somewhere, now would a simple bare wire end be capable of carrying current if it was shoved into a piece of copper tubing, buried somewhere inside?

Is the out going heavy black wire part of the black heavy wire we see above the supports?
Does the heavy wire on the left side of this coil go into the assembly and connect to a hidden socket to the right?
Does the end of the right coil which we see going into the coil actually proceed to the left and protrudes out of the left of the assembly?

I actually have no idea, I'm throwing suggestions up to see what people think.

@Groundloop,
That is a nice circuit.

jim

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #297 on: July 10, 2009, 03:59:39 AM »
Well if you read the pdf about the pyramid and how it relates to being a transducer and a conversion of rf from the earth then this might be interesting.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14966133/eBook-Free-Energy-Electricity-From-the-Sky-eBook-DIY-5236888-PDF-TECNZ

Anyways best to stay on topic i could not help my self..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #298 on: July 10, 2009, 04:39:08 AM »
A russian interpreter of the coil makes the following statements (translation not easy in this case)  :

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The primary coil has a cone shape. The top of the coil, the thinning is going under the secondary one made of thick wire

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The secondary coil is wound like an approximated cone.
- not typical for us

 
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Kapanadze shown at the bottom of winding structures, and calls it ... vtorichkoy?
The primary one of the thicker wires! 
That is why there are soldered to the high-voltage wires, and that is why this "korotysh" can be brought only gap. (?!)

The wires through the core are electrically connected to the earth wire as i understand it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #299 on: July 10, 2009, 05:03:58 AM »
@ Xeno:

Thank you for this clarification.  So it is a cone shaped coil then...wow, I have not read any info on these types of coils.  Has anyone else here?

Bill