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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13102424 times)

Offline Acca

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22260 on: February 19, 2016, 11:41:22 AM »
To:   cheappower2012

You have to add some "CONSTRUCTIVE" developments .. to the Tariel K.. device as we all know that it is really real !!!!

and you are just wasting you breath writing this junk..

Wesley visited Tariel and has seen the device and spent thousands of dollars on his lab..

I trust Wesley and NOT your suspicions of that, as you are new to this thread, you might just read the past post as it will say allot..

So long ...

Acca...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22261 on: February 19, 2016, 01:03:23 PM »
Acca
You have your facts incorrect,I believe Tariels device is real,I just don't believe its related to anything Tesla came up with,its an accidental discovery and works outside of known physics .Ragging on me indicates
you don't understand what I'm saying,I don't hero worship Tesla,I believe you do.If you want to be an attack dog go after wattsup he believes Tariel's device is a fake and Tariel is a fraud.Not everybody believes Tariel's devices work regardless of who reported on it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22262 on: February 19, 2016, 01:20:24 PM »
I just don't believe its related to anything Tesla came up with

Tesla came up with his aether-powered electric car in 1931. So Tesla yes, Tesla coil no.

Can anyone produce a clearer look at the cable shown arrowed as it enters the box?

That look displayed below is clear enough for me: Kapanadze's ground cable looks on both ends like a Full Copper Wire Ground Cable, hence there is no possibility to run a hidden hot wire through that ground cable.

Since the bystanders can see that clearly (in contrast to the blurry video) no one became suspicious about a hidden wire. So that »hidden hot wire sleeve fake« should be off the table now (hopefully).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22262 on: February 19, 2016, 01:20:24 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22263 on: February 19, 2016, 01:43:00 PM »


Since the bystanders can see that clearly (in contrast to the blurry video) no one became suspicious about a hidden wire. So that »hidden hot wire sleeve fake« should be off the table now (hopefully).

No - no way! Wrong shot. We all know that the earth cable is a multi-stranded welding type cable.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22264 on: February 19, 2016, 01:51:04 PM »
Zeitmaschine
I'm not a big fan of Tesla,he was a great man but didn't invent free energy
devices.That cable appears to be the connection to the buried radiator.
As to no hidden cable heres wattsup theory the bearded man sticks part
of the black cable ,its two cables,one part is up hes sleeve,down hes pants
 to hes shoes,then he steps on the cable on the ground a hot connection.
There is a part on the video where the black ground cable is connected to the radiator ground and the lamps are still lite,the radiator is not a good ground like the faucet so shouldn't work,however a skeptic could say that it doesn't go to the radiator but a good ground.I would think with all the cable stuffing in hes clothing someone would have noticed,ha ha
Because you can not be sure Tariels devices are 100% real ,no one is going to kill him.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22265 on: February 19, 2016, 02:12:23 PM »
Zeitmaschine
I'm not a big fan of Tesla,he was a great man but didn't invent free energy
devices.That cable appears to be the connection to the buried radiator.
As to no hidden cable heres wattsup theory the bearded man sticks part
of the black cable ,its two cables,one part is up hes sleeve,down hes pants
 to hes shoes,then he steps on the cable on the ground a hot connection.
There is a part on the video where the black ground cable is connected to the radiator ground and the lamps are still lite,the radiator is not a good ground like the faucet so shouldn't work,however a skeptic could say that it doesn't go to the radiator but a good ground.I would think with all the cable stuffing in hes clothing someone would have noticed,ha ha
Because you can not be sure Tariels devices are 100% real ,no one is going to kill him.

Cheappower,

I'm not sure that Wattsup has it quite right, as I think that both the supply wires may have been taken into the device on a two-core cable, thus my call for a clearer shot of the cable as it enters the coil. Logically, why would TK only hide the 'hot' wire when he can avoid the need for a poor earth return but at the same time delight his audience by showing that his device can still operate using a crappy radiator earth, which as you correctly suggest should not work. That is not to say that the earth cable was totally innefective, as it might have been assisting the power return, thus the fluctuating lamp brightness and intermittent operation at times.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22266 on: February 19, 2016, 02:20:05 PM »
No - no way! Wrong shot. We all know that the earth cable is a multi-stranded welding type cable.

Then we know something wrong. Correct shot. The black (split end) ground cable leading to the green box was removed from the faucet and is now being connected to the thin white wire leading to the buried radiator. I can't see anything multi-stranded here.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22267 on: February 19, 2016, 02:27:02 PM »
Then we know something wrong. Correct shot. The black (split end) ground cable leading to the green box was removed from the faucet and is now being connected to the thin white wire leading to the buried radiator. I can't see anything multi-stranded here.

 ??? That cable is a multi-stranded (flexible) welding type cable. See my previous post about the earth cable not necessarily being needed as a return conductor.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22268 on: February 19, 2016, 03:12:45 PM »
Yes, yes, yes, the cable going to the pipe is a fat one. But the cable going from the BG to the TKC is a dual conductor, then from inside the TKC to poke out the far end again as a single bundle. That's where the illusion is. You see a single bundle on the pipe and out the TKC so you "think" the single bundle continues throughout the total cabling. Set up the illusion and roll with it. When all the physical mannerisms of the people involved link perfectly well with the faking method, the odds of a fake just go up in spades. You cannot have that many coincidences that can then be ignored. 

The question is simple. Can the Green Box video be faked? If yes, then the video cannot be considered irrevocable. If no, then the video has more validity. So my question is, can the Green Box video demonstration be faked or not? Being smart does not mean you have OU, it just means you have creative ways of demonstrating what OU should look like in a demo but in no way can confirm any veracity of OU.

So again, you can spend 1000 more pages grabbing at straws but in the end, you will wind up exactly at the point you are at right now.

When we have OU in our hands for ourselves, we should make a point to show SM and TK how it's really done, not the other way around. This is the position OUers need to take in order to take their power back from all these irrational distractions because in the end, that's all they are. Personally, after all the time we have all spent on these two shmucks, it pains me to say this, but in order to save others the same fate so others can start this quest with fresh minds, uncluttered and open for the future, it is our responsibility to put things into their real perspectives.

wattsup

PS: If you stop painting me like an MIB and actually read what I am saying, you will actually realize that sometimes "naysaying" has its place and it is the responsibility of any true OUer to do so when warranted. But this is not exclusive to OU works, demos, builders. Our Standard EE method is also chock full of "wrongities" (wanted to invent a new word - hahaha) and if you really want to know, once you understand these, working towards OU will be much more productive.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22269 on: February 19, 2016, 03:24:40 PM »
That Kapanadze ground cable is unipolar (in contrast to multipolar), thus it is NOT suitable for a hidden hot wire. Maybe that phraseology makes it more clear.

Yes, yes, yes, the cable going to the pipe is a fat one. But the cable going from the BG to the TKC is a dual conductor, then from inside the TKC to poke out the far end again as a single bundle.

Oh yes! That means in addition to the hidden wire in the man's sleeve moreover the ground cable is stitched together of two different types of cables and no one noticed this - but in the blurry video we can see it clearly. Are you serious?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22270 on: February 19, 2016, 03:51:53 PM »
That Kapanadze ground cable is unipolar (in contrast to multipolar), thus it is NOT suitable for a hidden hot wire. Maybe that phraseology makes it more clear.

Oh yes! That means in addition to the hidden wire in the man's sleeve moreover the ground cable is stitched together of two different types of cables and no one noticed this - but in the blurry video we can see it clearly. Are you serious?

Maybe a clearer description would be 'a cable with multi non-insulated strands encased in an overall plastic sheath.

 ??? Why on earth would the magician, allow anyone in his audience to see his 'hot' wire working clearly.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22271 on: February 19, 2016, 10:35:25 PM »
Why on earth would the magician omit his 2004 bedroom video on his YouTube channel?

Because he thinks it reveals too much to his audience?

What exactly is it in that 2004 video we should not see so clearly? Since it is obviously not a hidden hot wire (evidence of fake) it could only be the mode of operation (evidence of authenticity).

Seems we missed something and therefore we should take an even closer look at that video. 8)

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« Reply #22272 on: February 19, 2016, 11:14:06 PM »
Why on earth would the magician omit his 2004 bedroom video on his YouTube channel?

Because he thinks it reveals too much to his audience?

What exactly is it in that 2004 video we should not see so clearly? Since it is obviously not a hidden hot wire (evidence of fake) it could only be the mode of operation (evidence of authenticity).

Seems we missed something and therefore we should take an even closer look at that video. 8)

OK, If you feel you have missed something, tell us if you find it once you've taken an even closer look at it. It is very dark under that bench, so you may need a torch.  ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22273 on: February 19, 2016, 11:54:43 PM »
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What exactly is it in that 2004 video we should not see so clearly? Since it is obviously not a hidden hot wire (evidence of fake) it could only be the mode of operation (evidence of authenticity).
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The is unique because only in this video is the ac power removed as the device is supplying  current to the lights ,he disconnects the ac inverter from the device,the device powers the lights for a few seconds,makes a funny noise.
If this was a simple hidden wire,latching relay setup,there is no need for a strange noise generated.This indicates to me either a more sophisticated circuitry for fraud or it maybe real.Heres some speculating,
it appears that it may have an ac 50 hz osc,powered by a power supply
in the can, as the power is removed,the power supply voltage decreases(capacitors discharging),this causes the 50 hz oscillator to change frequency.look at the spectrum
of the sound for starts.We know that because the transformer/bridge rectifier
operates at 50 hz,the output of the device is 50hz ac, transformers do like frequencies too far from 50hz unless designed for a different frequency.Then ask your self what type of osc destabilizes as its supply voltage decreases,remember tariel is not an electronics expert so it would be a simple osc,one that is not stable with voltage changes decreasing.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22274 on: February 20, 2016, 04:00:10 PM »
The most interesting question here is, why does the device shut off at all when the inverter is being disconnected? The output is 50 Hz 5000 Watts. Why does Kapanadze not back-loop that output directly to the input (the white cable plugged in to the inverter), but instead he creates a back-loop from the output (lamps) to a small transformer then through a rectifier (both in a black box) and that DC then back to the battery (connected to the input of the inverter)?

This looks like as if the device needed the 50 Hz frequency of the inverter as a reference (clock generator). But on the other hand it should not matter whether a resonant circuit oscillates at 50 Hz or 50.5 Hz or 48.9 Hz. The frequency doubler will always double that frequency, so the device should keep running regardless of the precise frequency.

As we can guess in case of the Stepanov transformers, input equals output, means input and output are the same wires (one of them is ground in single-phase version). Thus connecting Kapanadze's inverter directly to the five lamps (output of the device) instead to the white wires (input) should also work. Or do we still overlook something important?

 

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