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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13091903 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22200 on: February 11, 2016, 12:56:42 AM »
Did you get to 45.5MHz ?

Hi Verpies. Yes, I viewed the whole spectrum right up to about 112 MHz, and zoomed into various frequency bands
to take a closer look. I have attached some photos showing the yoke core in the aluminum foil shoe box,
and some scope screen shots of the broad frequency spectrum up to 112 MHz.

The blue trace is the time domain trace and the green trace is the frequency domain trace.

I was getting some peaks right at 50 MHz and 100 MHz with the white noise signal off.
Not sure what they are. Could be coming from the scope itself. There are also a lot of other
peaks above 90 MHz, and lots of peaks at lower frequencies with the white noise signal off.
There was one very big peak at 10 MHz, which might well be radio station WWV. Even with the aluminum
foil covered shoebox lid on, it did not noticeably reduce pickup of radio signals and EM noise at all.
Maybe the radio signals and EM noise were coupling right into the scope or scope probe lead itself.

I am just using the spectrum analyzer feature of my scope which is not that sophisticated,
but by zooming into various sections of the spectrum I was able to take a closer look for any
peaks that were not there when the white noise signal was off. I have so many peaks from
radio stations in the low MHz and kHz range that they could have possibly been masking something
underneath.

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Edit:
Hmm, I think I just figured out how to work around the problem of picking up all the radio stations
and some of the external EM noise. It appears the radio stations were coupling into the coil from
the chassis ground of the signal generator. If I only connect the red lead from the signal generator to one
side of the coil and leave the signal generator chassis ground connection only connected to the scope probe
ground clip, it seems to be looking much better. I am also seeing an interesting peak when I turn on the white noise, but it is
possible my signal generator's 'white noise' signal may be producing this peak. I will need to test further,
and I will report the results back here later...
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22201 on: February 11, 2016, 03:43:04 AM »
Hi Verpies. Ok, I think I have the problem with radio signals coupling strongly into the core winding solved now.
I have to leave the signal generator chassis ground lead unconnected to the coil. If I only connect
the signal generator red lead to the coil, the radio signals and some of the other noise is gone now.

The first screen shot is showing the frequency spectrum up to 5.6 MHz with the sig gen's white noise
signal connected directly to the scope probe without any connection to the yoke core. There are no peaks
in that frequency range.

The second screen shot shows the same 0 to 5.6 MHz frequency range with the signal generator feeding
one side of the 50 turn coil (my test coil is actually a little bit less turns than that). I get a big peak
around 2.89 MHz, but I tested and it is definitely the resonant frequency on my 46 turns or so winding.
As I place my hand closer and closer to the winding, I can see its resonant frequency slowly drop in relation
to how close my hand is to the coil. That peak is not coming from the core at all. I suspect that they were
probably also seeing a winding resonance at around 1.x MHz in the Lithuania experiment, similar to the winding resonance
I am seeing. When I read the procedure they followed, I am inclined to think that they were just working with
coil resonances. I really have my doubts about any of this having anything to do with NMR. (By the way,
with my new improved method of viewing the frequency spectrum from the core, I also see no peaks at 45.5 MHz).

The setup that they used with the yoke core in the Lithuania experiment appears to be very similar to what Akula
has show in his own high power devices, except Akula didn't do it all on the yoke core itself, but it appears to me
that what he did is a very similar approach except using some external air core coils instead for mixing the waveforms.
That is my opinion at the current time anyway. :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22202 on: February 11, 2016, 05:40:13 PM »
It's good that you got rid of the radio inference.  I am not sure that this groundless method does not introduce artifacts of its own.

With incomplete magnetic circuit and small voltages that you are applying you are not modulating the magnetic permeability of that ferrite core electrically, as described in that IEEE paper.
Also, without a perpendicular DC field and considerable currents, you don't stand a chance to evoke NMR or NAR.

If your material is the same as the STAAR team's, then these ferrite resonances exist even if they are currently obscured by the much stronger LC resonances, but you can still identify them, by deliberately varying the C, in order to cause a shift in the LC resonance frequency and noticing which spectrogram peaks do not move sideways as the C is varied.  Their amplitude will still vary with C, though.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22203 on: February 11, 2016, 06:56:31 PM »
It's good that you got rid of the radio inference.  I am not sure that this groundless method does not introduce artifacts of its own.

With incomplete magnetic circuit and small voltages that you are applying you are not modulating the magnetic permeability of that ferrite core electrically, as described in that IEEE paper.
Also, without a perpendicular DC field and considerable currents, you don't stand a chance to evoke NMR or NAR.

If your material is the same as the STAAR team's, then these ferrite resonances exist even if they are currently obscured by the much stronger LC resonances, but you can still identify them, by deliberately varying the C, in order to cause a shift in the LC resonance frequency and noticing which spectrogram peaks do not move sideways as the C is varied.  Their amplitude will still vary with C, though.

Hi Verpies. It is exactly for the reason that in the Lithuania experiment they state that they were able to
light the 150W bulb while only driving the core windings with two low power signal generators that, if accurate,
I have my doubts about NMR being a factor. It seems to me for NMR to be potentially much of a factor at all that
you would need to be driving the windings on the core with much stronger waveforms, but I could be wrong
of course. I suppose this could possibly be some other effect that occurs in a ferrite core such as 'spin waves'
or some other effect.

I guess I should probably take a closer look at the smaller peak that appeared at a lower frequency than the
large resonant peak from the winding, as circled in the attached screenshot. I will take a closer look at this
as soon as I get the chance, hopefully later on tonight. It may well just be due to a smaller magnitude resonance
in the winding, but I have a idea on how to check further into this. Will report back later...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22204 on: February 11, 2016, 08:33:13 PM »
If your material is the same as the STAAR team's, then these ferrite resonances exist even if they are currently obscured by the much stronger LC resonances, but you can still identify them, by deliberately varying the C, in order to cause a shift in the LC resonance frequency and noticing which spectrogram peaks do not move sideways as the C is varied.  Their amplitude will still vary with C, though.
After identifying the frequency to which material responds the LC frequency is matched with it by changing capacitor value so everything ends up on single frequency.
The main trick there is about 90 degrees angle between windings and the copper strip. While you use 15 and then 50 turns coils for the signal input the resonant frequency reveals best response on the copper strip (with no capacitor attached).
Also there is noticeable level when the minimum core magnetization level is reached. The signal changes rapidly after the minimum barrier is reached.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22205 on: February 12, 2016, 05:04:54 AM »
After identifying the frequency to which material responds the LC frequency is matched with it by changing capacitor value so everything ends up on single frequency.
The main trick there is about 90 degrees angle between windings and the copper strip. While you use 15 and then 50 turns coils for the signal input the resonant frequency reveals best response on the copper strip (with no capacitor attached).
Also there is noticeable level when the minimum core magnetization level is reached. The signal changes rapidly after the minimum barrier is reached.

Thanks T-1000. I assume you mean adding a parallel capacitor to certain windings?
Which specific yoke windings would I add a parallel capacitor to, to bring to resonance
at the frequency of interest?

See my next post for what I saw in my tests this evening. Let me know if you have
any suggestions for more tests...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22206 on: February 12, 2016, 05:15:05 AM »
Ok, what I did was to wind a bit shorter wire on the yoke core
than I had on there previously. The new shorter wire worked out
to 33 turns. I counted, and there were about 48 turns on the core previously.

Screen Shot 01
The first screen shot shows that the coil's resonant frequency moved up
to about 4.2 MHz, as would be expected with a winding with less turns on it.
The resonance range of the coil starts at about 3.44 MHz and peaks at about 4.2 MHz.
So the smaller peaks at a lower frequency that I previously circled in red moved up
when I raised the resonant frequency. It would appear that there are no notable
peaks in the previous resonance range of the longer 48 turns coil, and below. 

Screen Shot 02
However, since the resonance range of the new 33 turn winding on the core is above
the frequency range of interest on the yoke core, for example well above 0 to 2.25 MHz,
I then zoomed into the range of 0 to 2.25MHz and also turned up the vertical sensitivity
a bit to have a closer look at what is in that frequency range. The second screen shot shows
that there are a group of smaller sized peaks in the range of about 500 KHz to about 1.25 MHz
or so. Something interesting about this group of peaks is that as I move my hand closer and closer
to the 33 turn winding, they climb upward in frequency and also gradually also slowly fall off
in amplitude as my hand gets closer to the winding. That is the opposite of what happens in the
resonant frequency range of the coil. It's like resonance, but moves up in frequency with increased
capacitance from my hand.  A bit odd.  :) Not sure what the explanation for this effect is, but maybe there
is some simple explanation for that.

Screen Shot 03
As I was moving my hand in and out from the winding on the yoke core and watching
for any peaks that didn't move, I did notice one such small sized peak at about 1.49 MHz.
It also did something interesting as I moved my hand closer to the winding. It stayed
right on the exact same frequency, but also increased in amplitude when my hand was
just very lightly touching the coil windings. I should point out that I don't have an
AM broadcast station really near to 1.5 MHz, and I also tested by turning off the white noise signal
and touched my hand very lightly to the coil winding and that peak is not there at all
when the white noise signal is off. This would seem to indicate that this peak is not
due to some radio station or EM noise on that particular frequency. This peak only appears when
the white noise signal is turned on, and it stays right on the same frequency as I move
my hand in and out from the winding. The other interesting thing is how it increases in amplitude
when I bring my hand really close to the winding and when I lightly touch the winding.
I don't know if this peak which is stationary at 1.49 MHz is of any significance, but it
seems to fit the general criteria for a frequency of potential interest. I suppose I should test further
to make sure that peak is not some artifact of the white noise signal from my signal generator. I will
take a look at that further tomorrow.

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« Reply #22207 on: February 12, 2016, 08:41:03 PM »
Did some further testing with this setup this today, and although I could see
that same peak at 1.49 MHz initially, it disappeared after I cycled through the
waveform selections on my signal generator and then set it back to the the 'white noise'
function again. (I had the signal generator turned off over night).
That peak at 1.49 MHz would seem to have been some artifact of the signal generator.

I am actually getting quite different results today from the white noise waveform function on my signal
generator when I look at its spectrum directly. Today the white noise function from my signal
generator is giving prominent peaks at regular intervals of 125 kHz, which it wasn't doing at all previously, as
I showed in a previous screen shot.  It is a fairly new signal generator and it is a decent quality signal generator
as well, so I am not sure why I am seeing quite different results using the white noise function on this signal generator
today. Anyway, this being the case, I think I will leave it at that at least for the time being, and move back to some other
projects I was working on previously. Verpies, T-1000, thanks for your input on this.

Edit: I think I have sorted out what was causing the Noise function on my signal generator to give different results.
I couldn't find anything about this in the user manual, but it seems that what frequency I am set to before switching to
the Noise function makes a difference in the frequency content of the Noise waveform. This seems strange to me, considering
I couldn't find any mention of this in the user manual, but this is what was making the noise output from my signal generator
different today. When I switched to some of the other waveform settings earlier today, I must have also changed the frequency
setting as well, not realizing that this affects the output when on the Noise waveform setting. :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22208 on: February 12, 2016, 10:29:50 PM »

The new development in Keshe  history/story :

Based on my personal opinion that I'm entitled to express - according to my rights as a citizen  of United States Of America  - 
written in American Constitution I state as fallow:

The device that was presented by Keshe was not   invented by Keshe.
1.Keshe approached The inventor who is a professor  of major university ( now retired).{We will call him Professor}
2.The university   is not located in  USA and nor in Europe.
and definitely not in Russia.
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3.Keshe approached him with different stories. Keshe never mention that he is NOT an inventor to the public.
4.Keshe did not pay any royalty to the inventor  from the money he collected from his activity nor sales of the device.
5.Keshe did not explain to the inventor  the truth of the scam  he was continuing to promote.
6.There is still unclear to me  how licencing rights or agreement was working between  the two, however Kesche start manufacturing the devices invented by Professor.
7.It might be completely possible that Professor had no idea   what Keshe is doing with it and how Keshe applies Professor  art in  Keshe's Activity
8.Professor is not  the man who struggling with life, but he is not wealthy person.He is just well set in life.
9.  Professor (at least for now, and I believe - permanently) is not interested with financial gain nor any profit  from his  technology.
10.Professor is a Gentleman who  has very much regoristic and unalterable set of values.  Including: social, moral ethical and nationalistic values.
11.Professor is NOT going or willing  accept any pressure , nor force nor suggestion, nor advice of anyone except of his own.
12.Professor is willing to deserve some of his time, to some  individuals - with whom  he thinks he will  have pleasure or intellectually valuable time spend. 
13. Keshe has start manufacturing of the devices  treating  the nature of the device not  in the form nor with level of understanding of nature of concept.
By that Keshe did not achieve performance  desired by Professor.
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14.At my best believe Keshe is a scammer taking advantage over the peoples money and expectation.
15.The devices  with Keshe Logo might be manufactured completely without knowledge, approval, nor authorisation of the Professor.
16. All of the Keshe "stories" seminars and so on are just tools to collect  wealth using any tools  and any mean possible, available and handy in that  particular time frame .
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17.I might have chance to  see Professor  personally. :)
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Please do not ask me for any additional facts or pieces of information that requires me to" say more"
I do not care about your comfort of knowledge, as much as I care  about MY OWN SET OF VALUES in this area.
GOT IT?

I will not interact with te bunch of opportunists seeking easy way to  solve their own dreams  of rich life on the beach.
Screw them all..
Please also if you have questions understand that:
1. I do not contact people  with email unless I know them very well..
2. I do not put anyone interest over any other one unless I want to,  or I believe that it is of value to me or in the interest of valuable to me part of public.
3. I'm not perfect nor I intend to be however I have served interest of humanity since beginning of my involvement in FE with no personal gain in mind.( however not excluded) 
4. I'm not interested with FE, nor FE is for me the goal. The most important to me is the  mechanism of phenomena   and physical explanation of the phenomena.
By that please do not offer me  money, help, carrier, better life. - screw you all.
If I'm in need I believe I can find people who  will support me well.( however you never know)
5. I'm not interested with political, cultural, social ,religious nor societal  benefits some of you are trying to project  in front of me.
6. I do not care about your personal problem bit more than you ...........about mine.
7. Do not give me  stories about your hardship: at the end there  is one goal in mind- to get a grab on FE. So for some of you the educationally low life , educationally low mid and educationally low set of values I say NO...........
 
GOT IT?

Please understand that I'm not corruptible in any possible way.
so for whom , who think about me different  I  have one answer
F..k You All.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22209 on: February 13, 2016, 12:24:40 AM »

...i guess that's a 'No' to the vicar's tea-party invitation, then?
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22210 on: February 13, 2016, 10:39:47 AM »

4. I'm not interested with FE, nor FE is for me the goal.

7. Do not give me  stories about your hardship: at the end there  is one goal in mind- to get a grab on FE.
 
Wesley

Wesley,

How can you reconcile these two statements?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22211 on: February 13, 2016, 11:10:33 AM »
Wesley,

How can you reconcile these two statements?

I think the point Wesley is trying to get across is that he strives for the pure knowledge of understanding this phenomena, not what it will be used for and who will use it.

Though he doesn't say it, I'm pretty certain Wesley would like for all of us to fully understand this process, this universal wiring together of the cosmos.  This is why I feel Wesley has been so helpful in this community.  He is not a selfish man; actually more of teacher.  I'm quite certain if Wesley knew the secret to FE, it would not be a secret for long.   ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22212 on: February 13, 2016, 12:14:21 PM »
I'm quite certain if Wesley knew the secret to FE, it would not be a secret for long.   ;)

I think you are right and I also think that he knows that it would not stay free for very long.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22213 on: February 13, 2016, 06:31:18 PM »

Seems free energy will not a option at anytime in our days 😀. In my country if you generate your own energy up to 2kv you have to pay taxes by kW generate  even with a solar panel .  alltime the system will push  US to pay something .
Free energy is only a concept desired by commmom persons and by the most people not by the lords  that control everthing .
This type of technologies with higher patterns of conversion already exist 😉 could this technologies survive and could be available to our actual time ?  I think not . in normal condicions i belive that will be regulated evertime by the people with power and money.
The technologies already exist , and i just see most  comments of people  try convice  the opposite 😂 lol .
Is hilarius this situation . is a bit inusual because is expected the opposite reaction .
Like one day Wesley speak in one of their vĂ­deos , dont exist free lunch 😂
What is really important is the conversion process of already available energy .
we can not create energy , only convert  from one State to another .  is not a fucking woke core that make the magic  effect of create energy !  The yoke is not the main focus! is the way we make vibrate them .
Is like making a a cup of glass vibrate with your finger, it takes some time until the glass start vibrate but after excited the glass will start vibrate even with a slow momevement of the finger , producing high pitch note .
If you leave the cup of glass rest  a bit  and after some minutes repeate the same operation you will observe that need some time until the glass start vibrate again .
The same happens with the yoke . is not only firing the yoke with high freq pulses , need to be made not by one note
But by a group of notes until reach the state of inflow outflow on core . after that a low power it will need to mantain the vibration .
If anywone interest i have a old woke like  people show and  i can sell to someone if are so precious !

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