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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13200665 times)

Offline cheappower2012

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22155 on: January 25, 2016, 09:41:47 PM »
Amazing how people  get worked up when someone says a device could be faked.
I believe Westley saw a real device in Georgia,I don't buy hes conclusions as to how it worked at all.
One problem that I see is people do not understand the level of deception Kapanadze
operates under.He can fool very smart people easily,just because you have university training doesn't mean
you will figure Kapanadze's device out or not be fooled.Kapanadze's primitive workshop points to one of two conclusions
its a fake or its very simple but strange.Kapanadze lies and lies,he will never give up the secret of hes device
and will take it to hes grave.Theres always the possibility that something could be faked
this is why part of investigating hes device is, if it was faked ,how,if it is very hard to fake then theres a good chance its real.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22156 on: January 25, 2016, 10:42:31 PM »
Kapanadze never make any presentation in the forest far away from power sources, why? Sure, Wesley witness the device but only in Tariel's garage ... it just looks like Kapanadze is transmitting current trough ground from hidden transmitter or Kapanadze free energy device is stealing electricity from utility company trough earth (utility poles are grounded) or home electrical grounding system.When you connect audio amplifier to earth near your home you will hear 60/50 hz buzzing noise, just a thought...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22157 on: January 26, 2016, 01:25:56 AM »
There are only 3 ways to fake things one is thru a hidden wire,
a ground forms one connection plus a hot forms the other.
An inverter in a box with a battery,a wireless transmitter/receiver.
The amount of energy the device(2005 green box as an example) consumes
close to 5kw,a battery/inverter would not work,
a wireless set up would not work,a hidden hot wire
would not work.Kapanadze's goal is not to demo a device in an area
 that would indicate it must be real,but to
show a person it could be real,and use hes greed against him,in order to get money from him.
He has no plans of ever revealing what hes secret is.People need to understand
how Kapanadze thinks,I don't think he understands the concept of truth.Each possible method of trickery should be presented  for various devices,along with counter views for the devices working.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22157 on: January 26, 2016, 01:25:56 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22158 on: January 26, 2016, 09:17:31 AM »
There are only 3 ways to fake things one is thru a hidden wire,
a ground forms one connection plus a hot forms the other.
An inverter in a box with a battery,a wireless transmitter/receiver.
The amount of energy the device(2005 green box as an example) consumes
close to 5kw,a battery/inverter would not work,
a wireless set up would not work,a hidden hot wire
would not work.Kapanadze's goal is not to demo a device in an area
 that would indicate it must be real,but to
show a person it could be real,and use hes greed against him,in order to get money from him.
He has no plans of ever revealing what hes secret is.People need to understand
how Kapanadze thinks,I don't think he understands the concept of truth.Each possible method of trickery should be presented  for various devices,along with counter views for the devices working.

We have been over this umpteen times to exchange ideas and counter views! I say again, that a hidden hot wire would work, or to more exact a hidden cable with the bearded man's assistance to get the power routed into the device. I have also suggested that the Aqua2 was fed by a hidden wire through the earth braid. Yes, Kapanadze is clever but not clever enough to fool everyone. Furthermore, the lamps in the 'green box' video were consuming nowhere near 5Kw.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22159 on: January 26, 2016, 12:24:58 PM »
Hoppy first off wattsup suggested an explanation for a possible way to fake the green box video,
wattsup was in the tpu group with me for years,if he can't figure out something,
he calls it a fake and suggests a way that its faked to rid himself of it,
he did this one time before with another device.They remove the ground wire from the faucet
and connect it to the lights directly,
they measure the current then thru the big black cable.In this green box video  it has an English translation
they wanted to find out if the device will light one bulb,they read 5 and 4 amps,then two bulbs
8 amps,so all 5,5 times 4=20 amps,20 times 220v=4,400 watts.In addition aking21 stated that hes contacts
conform the existence of 1,000 watt bulbs used in Georgia,crazy but true.This video has only the current readings of the light bulbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBLrRIUiN6w&feature=youtu.be

If you look at the green box video,you will not see a  direct ground connection other than the thick
black cable going to the faucet,you need both a solid ground and a hot side.
On the aquarium 2 video althu your theory is possible,you can not show a connection to the coil other than the ground side
because there is none,you need two sides to transfer current only one side is shown.
The great problem with the aquarium 2 is they never took a reading at the plug,this would then set
a limit as to possibilities,is it ac or dc,if ac or dc what voltage,if ac what frequency.
You could infer Tariel is like David Copperfield and must have faked it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22159 on: January 26, 2016, 12:24:58 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22160 on: January 26, 2016, 12:53:59 PM »

Take no notice of the crazy meter measurements. The clamp meter was all over the place and we don't know what frequency was being measured, so the accuracy of the meter is questionable. Yes, 1000W rated bulbs but 1000W dissipation or even close, no way.

The supply cable was hidden in the green box video. The bearded man held the secret.  ;) The earth wire may or may not have been used as a return but probably was.

The Aqua2 earth braid was probably used as the supply return but there could have been two very thin insulated wires inside the braid - two sides in one.

Lets just leave it that we have different opinions and none of us on this forum know the truth, which will probably go with Tariel to his grave.

PS. I'm sure that a few of us on this forum could set up a similar green box demo, given that a good many of Tariels audience were most likely in the know.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2016, 03:11:21 PM by Hoppy »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22161 on: January 26, 2016, 07:32:21 PM »
in Wesley Kapanadze garage video we can clearly see a transparent insulation wire connected to metal car repair pit ,so 2 wires hidden in one theory in unlikely to be valid,Wesley inspected the device well, but why this garage version was only producing 200 watt? why not 3-4kw like the green box? Wesley can you tell us how much did you pay to Kapanadze to see this miracle? in case on NMR ... where is the nuclear radioactive rubin tv yoke? in the white box that's on top of this garbage with fake pcbs?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22161 on: January 26, 2016, 07:32:21 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22162 on: January 26, 2016, 08:16:51 PM »
in case on NMR ... where is the nuclear radioactive Rubin TV yoke?
In his latest video Wesley was not writing about any TK's devices in reference to yoke cores in Lithuania experiment #1 and Tiger's subsequent experiments.
Also, a material does not have to be radioactive to undergo NMR.  Example - Hydrogen.

I have corresponded with Wesley many times and it is my opinion, that with his electronic experience and "street wisdom" about those parts of the world, it would not be easy for TK to deceive him.
People should be grateful for his translations and other contributions.  There is no reason do doubt his integrity, either.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22163 on: January 26, 2016, 08:34:50 PM »
"I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts.  When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation.  Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts.  Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 104)[/size]2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000.  You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower."[/size]

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"You see, the apparatus which I have devised was an apparatus enabling one to produce tremendous differences of potential and currents in an antenna circuit.  "[/size]

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The only missing part is to tap the energy in antenna without disturbing it.The excess energy is damped to ground via spark. The antenna is of course not radiating one, probably full wave.[/size]
It is just radio technic, nothing new.[/size]

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22163 on: January 26, 2016, 08:34:50 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22164 on: January 27, 2016, 01:36:34 PM »
To Hoppy
You said,"Take no notice of the crazy meter measurements. The clamp meter was all over the place
 and we don't know what frequency was being measured, so the accuracy of the meter
is questionable.
 Yes, 1000W rated bulbs but 1000W dissipation or even close, no way."



The frequency was measured, it was 49 Hz,also the transformer with bridge rectifier
would not work if the frequency was too high to loop the device,
well at least you believe the bulbs are 1,000 watts that's progress,LOL


You said,
The supply cable was hidden in the green box video. The bearded man held the secret.  ;)
The earth wire may or may not have been used as a return but probably was.


The bearded man appears mentally challenged,never the less,lets say its fake.
First step is whats the inputs and outputs of the box,figure 1.The black
cable is internally hooked to the other side,this known by viewing the video.
The lights are lifted so theres no hot wire anywhere,because the black cable is disconnected at one point you need
a ground with a switch and a hot side hooked to a switch.When the bearded man grabs hes nuts
he sends a signal to another person who then throws the hot switch and throws the ground switch,
or just the hot switch.
If the ground cable is grounded only the
hot switch is thrown,if the ground cable is disconnected,then the ground switch
is thrown along with the hot switch.Of course which side of hes nuts the bearded man
grabs determines whether only the hot switch gets thrown or both switches.
And then we have free energy,now can a hot connection wire and another solid ground wire be found in the video no,
then its a David Copperfield trick.


you said
The Aqua2 earth braid was probably used as the supply return but there could have
been two very thin insulated wires inside the braid - two sides in one.


There is no connection to the blue wire going to the green transformer,
unless you can show a connection that's not how its done.

The point is,is it possible that Kapanadze's devices are real I think so,is it possible its  fake also possible,however  my belief is that
the odds are greater it may be real.Until enough information is gathered to
attempt a real replication it will be like, did we go the moon or is that a hoax,or did the government plan 911.






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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22165 on: January 27, 2016, 02:48:30 PM »
@ cheappower2012,

You posted the same reasoning before and I answered that the hot wire is not visible - why would it have been if TK was attempting a clever fake. The hot wire in the case of the green box device is linked to the coil of cable being held by the bearded man. Why hold a fairly heavy coil of cable for so long when it can simply be placed on the ground.

In the case of the Aqua2 hot wire(s), again as I previously wrote way back, the thin wire(s) could have easily been taken out of the braid at any point along its travel through the tank and connected to any convenient hidden point on the blue wire. In a good fake, the hot wires are hidden from view.  ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22166 on: January 27, 2016, 06:48:32 PM »
Cheap ....

You are new to this thread ...

You should read the post for the last years and educate yourself ....

Kapanadze device is very real ....

He got ripped off and greed got the best of him ..

Debating if there is a hidden wire or it's a fake power device ...

You should also learn Russian you don' understand what you are looking at..

And Georgian as Tariel is from Georgia, and if you think it's English you should learn about Georgia..

Posting photos does nothing as it only make you look foolish..

Suggestion is that you look up Wesley videos, study them as it will take a while and post suggestions how you

think this Kapanadze device works ...also type Kapanadze in to google images ...

Wesley has a very big understanding of the Kapanadze device and unlike you a big lab....

I take his advice and dissect every word and his videos...

God speed on your effort to educate your self in this Kapanadze thread.. there is allot of good data here

to discover by you..


Acca...


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22167 on: January 27, 2016, 07:35:09 PM »
@ Acca

You have got the wrong man and misread Cheap's post. He is a believer like you that TK devices are not faked. I'm on the fence but think its more likely that he has faked his devices. Do you have any evidence that TK's devices are genuine self-runners, or is it just your opinion / belief?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22168 on: January 27, 2016, 08:28:52 PM »
Hoppy there is the generation of neutrons from the ferric chloride by the Italians in 2007 .

They used cavitation to set up the iron in to decay at 42 khz and used bubble detectors to show gamma..

Iron has the strongest nuclear binding energy, it was after 90 minutes that the reactions started to happen..

There is also some indications that an isotope of copper may have same effect...

I have posted this data here in the past ...

The very fast AC frequency in the magnetic component of the glass iron (spinwave) creates extra electrons..

After all it' s the de-stabilization of the binding weak atomic force that is what the Coleman device has show..

100 Watts and that is shocking... I just don' t have way to detect neutron bursts .. I have a  gamma spectrum analyzer

That is not enough as these  gammas and beta electrons come off at sharp bursts and no as a constant emission like uranium.

I suspect that the decay of matter is finite ... and it has an end unlike the conventional scientific theory has it ..

The amount of energy coming from the atom is large that it takes only a trillionth to get some electrons out..

Wesley did get radiation effect in Lithuania so did his friends..

When that TV yoke sings it also has harmonics up and down, if the right frequency is hit you will get betas and fast

neutrons, with that copper band (wire) you will slow down the fast neutrons and make collisions in copper and

more neutrons and betas.. Neutron capture..

Look there a lot of evidence to low energy dis-assembly of the electrons from the internal structure of the atom..

When the nucleus looses an (Internal electron) neutron it becomes a different element,  look up the weak force..

Acca...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22169 on: January 27, 2016, 09:40:45 PM »
 Thanks for your reply Acca.

 

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